Re: 8/3 - 8/16 Game Discussion Thread
My beard is better than yours, Kimbrel.
My beard is better than yours, Kimbrel.
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Re: 8/3 - 8/16 Game Discussion Thread
Of course the Mets are losing games now. OF COURSE.Comment
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Re: 8/3 - 8/16 Game Discussion Thread
I get that, but he's basically right at the bottom of that list (I didn't want to look at what his ranking actually is). You guys act like I'm saying he's a bad player...I'm not. I'm just saying as a hitter he's much closer to Dave Kingman than he is to Bryce Harper. Kingman had a great career, so not a bad thing, especially if he's going to provide the all around game he has."People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers HornsbyComment
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Re: 8/3 - 8/16 Game Discussion Thread
Elite power hitters have HR/FB rates pushing 20% or higher. HR/FB rate for hitters is not at all like HR/FB rate for pitchers; the former is much more predictive than the latter.
If anything, it's something Bryant improves on as he fills out his power potential.I write things on the Internet.
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Well to some degree as a long-tenured Cubs fan, I am just happy that Bryant isn't turning out like Gary Scott or Kevin Orie.
I think the Kingman thing is really unfair provided that Bryant's rookie season fWAR is higher than any season in Kingman's entire career. I mean I could pick it apart in more minute detail as to why I don't like the comp, but the fact that Bryant's better as a rookie than Kingman ever was is pretty convincing. Then you go into BABIP, OBP, defense and the comp falls apart even further.Chicago Cubs | Chicago Bulls | Green Bay Packers | Michigan WolverinesComment
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This actually makes sense...and not something I had considered before (I have always looked at HR/FB in regards to league average). There is no doubt his power will develop.
So question - are you guys satisfied with his performance at the plate?"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers HornsbyComment
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I don't know how I can state this: I am ONLY referring to his performance at the plate. Maybe a better comp is Mark Reynolds with a glove? The guy is on pace to strike out over 200 times this year...not too many hitters who do that turn into great hitters. That's all I'm trying to say."People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers HornsbyComment
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I'd prefer him to be performing at mid-'20s Babe Ruth levels, but for the most part am happy. He's better defensively and on the bases than advertised and doesn't fit the lazy "1D slugger" comp he gets a lot.
Bryant got off to a fast start with his AVG and OBP and it took him a bit to hit his 1st HR. Then he got that monkey off his back, went on a little tear--to the point where NL ROY seemed as it was his to lose, made the ASG and HRD--only to go into a rookie slump around that same time. He seems to be breaking out of that with a recent long hitting streak and a 2-hit game today.
My biggest worry about Bryant is he seems like a guy who is outwardly calm, but inwardly very driven and likely to beat up on himself if he doesn't live up to his own expectations. You can see little glimpses of how hard he is on himself break through sometimes. One example was the HRD and how it took him a little while to get going.Chicago Cubs | Chicago Bulls | Green Bay Packers | Michigan WolverinesComment
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I get your point, SF.
He has a 50% IP% (percentage of all plate apperances where a ball is put in play...AB-K-HR+SF/all plate apperances). He is 4th "lowest" in the majors behind Chris Carter, Chris Davis and Joc. In addition, he has a 48% FB% which is 3rd in the majors behind Chris Cater and Brandon Moss.
Translation is that he's one of the MLB leaders in only being a 3-outcome player (walk, strikeout or HR). I'm more so eager to see how he adjusts because he certainly has a world of potential...Frenchy had an awesome 2005 campaign but wasn't able to make the adjustments and at best, has become a good role player with great defense.
MLB pitchers know how to exploit weaknesses...my gripe on the high K-totals is that putting the ball in play at least mitigates that to an extent; if the hitter is more/less a 3-outcome hitter, the likelihood of sustained success is much smaller.Last edited by Speedy; 08-15-2015, 10:47 PM.Originally posted by Gibson88Comment
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Re: 8/3 - 8/16 Game Discussion Thread
I'm sorry to say this, but your numbers are way off too. Bryant's K:BB ratio is closer to 2:1 than Kingman's 3:1. Bryant draws a lot of walks and figures to be a high OBP guy even if he never solves his contact issues. Kingman was a one-trick pony.
Again, it's not really fair to pick out two variables in a guy's hitting profile and make low-floor comparisons. I'd say Bryant's floor is closer to Chris Davis than any of the guys you're comparing him to.I write things on the Internet.
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In the scorebook, ya'll are going to see that the Nationals performed a 3-4-1 putout against the Giants.
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I almost threw up my dinner when I read the comp for Bryant to Dave Kingman.
Get a clue my man.
BEYOND satisfied with him at the plate.
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Come on now...don't get so riled up. Kingman posted a career wRC+ of 113 and that is after some really down years at the end of his career. The comp isn't as far off as a hitter as your making it out to be."People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers HornsbyComment
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