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  • SportsTop
    The Few. The Proud.
    • Jul 2003
    • 6716

    #106
    Re: Caminiti Dies of Heart Attack

    And btw, why is Caminiti a bigger hero than Canseco?
    Because drugs/steroids or not, Cammy played the game it was meant to be played on every play of every game. That is still something to be admired.

    Originally posted by glucklich
    So then all those who like Caminiti for the reasons you mentioned should have no problems with Bonds assuming Bonds took steroids?
    Steroids or not, I love to watch Barry Bonds play. I loved to watch Jose Canseco play in his prime. And....

    Mark McGwire
    Ken Caminiti
    Gary Sheffield

    This steroid issue is another topic for another thread. We are entering an unprecented era in baseball and sports in general. The "blinders" are being removed so to speak and we are seeing that there are performance enhancing drugs to help people acheive great heights in sports.

    Com on, the Governor of California took steroids and everybody loves him. Let's just hope that Caminiti's life and death help just one person out there to quit drugs and/or steroids.
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    • SportsTop
      The Few. The Proud.
      • Jul 2003
      • 6716

      #107
      Re: Caminiti Dies of Heart Attack

      And btw, why is Caminiti a bigger hero than Canseco?
      Because drugs/steroids or not, Cammy played the game it was meant to be played on every play of every game. That is still something to be admired.

      Originally posted by glucklich
      So then all those who like Caminiti for the reasons you mentioned should have no problems with Bonds assuming Bonds took steroids?
      Steroids or not, I love to watch Barry Bonds play. I loved to watch Jose Canseco play in his prime. And....

      Mark McGwire
      Ken Caminiti
      Gary Sheffield

      This steroid issue is another topic for another thread. We are entering an unprecented era in baseball and sports in general. The "blinders" are being removed so to speak and we are seeing that there are performance enhancing drugs to help people acheive great heights in sports.

      Com on, the Governor of California took steroids and everybody loves him. Let's just hope that Caminiti's life and death help just one person out there to quit drugs and/or steroids.
      Follow me on Twitter!

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      • RoyalBoyle78
        Aka."Footballforever"
        • May 2003
        • 23918

        #108
        Re: Caminiti Dies of Heart Attack

        Originally posted by Vinceanity2k3
        RIP..I'm sorry to say this and you guys can knock me for it,but it's hard for me to find sympathy for him when he just throws his life away using roids and harcore drugs like that.
        well that why they call it a drug "Problem". He had a drug problem bad and he took roids and yes it caught up to him. Sometimes it hard for people to stop and quit, so that why I feel bad for him and his famliy, IF you don't feel bad for him that cool, but in my eyes I feel really bad for him and his famliy, he had three daughters, now they have no father wich is unfair. Thats the way life goes and it sux. I just wanna know what the hell he was doing In the Bronx, I hope he wasn't picking somthing up.
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        • RoyalBoyle78
          Aka."Footballforever"
          • May 2003
          • 23918

          #109
          Re: Caminiti Dies of Heart Attack

          Originally posted by Vinceanity2k3
          RIP..I'm sorry to say this and you guys can knock me for it,but it's hard for me to find sympathy for him when he just throws his life away using roids and harcore drugs like that.
          well that why they call it a drug "Problem". He had a drug problem bad and he took roids and yes it caught up to him. Sometimes it hard for people to stop and quit, so that why I feel bad for him and his famliy, IF you don't feel bad for him that cool, but in my eyes I feel really bad for him and his famliy, he had three daughters, now they have no father wich is unfair. Thats the way life goes and it sux. I just wanna know what the hell he was doing In the Bronx, I hope he wasn't picking somthing up.
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          • glucklich
            Banned
            • Jun 2004
            • 4272

            #110
            Re: Caminiti Dies of Heart Attack

            Originally posted by FootballForever
            well that why they call it a drug "Problem". He had a drug problem bad and he took roids and yes it caught up to him. Sometimes it hard for people to stop and quit, so that why I feel bad for him and his famliy, IF you don't feel bad for him that cool, but in my eyes I feel really bad for him and his famliy, he had three daughters, now they have no father wich is unfair. Thats the way life goes and it sux. I just wanna know what the hell he was doing In the Bronx, I hope he wasn't picking somthing up.
            Well they probably havent had a father for a while though. Its not like things are usually fine before they end up like this. Its not unfortunate for them that he died as much as it is unfortunate for them that he had these problems. This is an important distinction I think. With these problems he was probably dead as a father well before he actually died.

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            • glucklich
              Banned
              • Jun 2004
              • 4272

              #111
              Re: Caminiti Dies of Heart Attack

              Originally posted by FootballForever
              well that why they call it a drug "Problem". He had a drug problem bad and he took roids and yes it caught up to him. Sometimes it hard for people to stop and quit, so that why I feel bad for him and his famliy, IF you don't feel bad for him that cool, but in my eyes I feel really bad for him and his famliy, he had three daughters, now they have no father wich is unfair. Thats the way life goes and it sux. I just wanna know what the hell he was doing In the Bronx, I hope he wasn't picking somthing up.
              Well they probably havent had a father for a while though. Its not like things are usually fine before they end up like this. Its not unfortunate for them that he died as much as it is unfortunate for them that he had these problems. This is an important distinction I think. With these problems he was probably dead as a father well before he actually died.

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              • glucklich
                Banned
                • Jun 2004
                • 4272

                #112
                Re: Caminiti Dies of Heart Attack

                Originally posted by Squint
                Because drugs/steroids or not, Cammy played the game it was meant to be played on every play of every game. That is still something to be admired.



                Steroids or not, I love to watch Barry Bonds play. I loved to watch Jose Canseco play in his prime. And....

                Mark McGwire
                Ken Caminiti
                Gary Sheffield

                This steroid issue is another topic for another thread. We are entering an unprecented era in baseball and sports in general. The "blinders" are being removed so to speak and we are seeing that there are performance enhancing drugs to help people acheive great heights in sports.

                Com on, the Governor of California took steroids and everybody loves him. Let's just hope that Caminiti's life and death help just one person out there to quit drugs and/or steroids.
                I can respect what you are saying but its the double standard Im concerned with. You can bet that its in effect for some. In all honesty Im not sure I have a problem with players using steroids in non-contact sports. I mean, these guys are the ones who have to live with the consequences. This whole issue has snowballed with Caminiti, Canseco and then the president mentioning it in a SOTU address (wtf!). Its to the point where any testimony can not be trusted. Since the feds are involved in this too many people are probably trying to cut deals.

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                • glucklich
                  Banned
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 4272

                  #113
                  Re: Caminiti Dies of Heart Attack

                  Originally posted by Squint
                  Because drugs/steroids or not, Cammy played the game it was meant to be played on every play of every game. That is still something to be admired.



                  Steroids or not, I love to watch Barry Bonds play. I loved to watch Jose Canseco play in his prime. And....

                  Mark McGwire
                  Ken Caminiti
                  Gary Sheffield

                  This steroid issue is another topic for another thread. We are entering an unprecented era in baseball and sports in general. The "blinders" are being removed so to speak and we are seeing that there are performance enhancing drugs to help people acheive great heights in sports.

                  Com on, the Governor of California took steroids and everybody loves him. Let's just hope that Caminiti's life and death help just one person out there to quit drugs and/or steroids.
                  I can respect what you are saying but its the double standard Im concerned with. You can bet that its in effect for some. In all honesty Im not sure I have a problem with players using steroids in non-contact sports. I mean, these guys are the ones who have to live with the consequences. This whole issue has snowballed with Caminiti, Canseco and then the president mentioning it in a SOTU address (wtf!). Its to the point where any testimony can not be trusted. Since the feds are involved in this too many people are probably trying to cut deals.

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                  • cooldude
                    Please don't go.
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 4091

                    #114
                    Re: Caminiti Dies of Heart Attack

                    Shame to see him go. 41 is just too young to die, really shows what drugs can do to you.

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                    • cooldude
                      Please don't go.
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 4091

                      #115
                      Re: Caminiti Dies of Heart Attack

                      Shame to see him go. 41 is just too young to die, really shows what drugs can do to you.

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                      • BengalTiger
                        MVP
                        • Dec 2002
                        • 1115

                        #116
                        Re: Caminiti Dies of Heart Attack

                        Originally posted by glucklich
                        So then all those who like Caminiti for the reasons you mentioned should have no problems with Bonds assuming Bonds took steroids?
                        I didn't say anything negative about Bonds or anyone else. It's up to MLB to police it's players, not me.

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                        • BengalTiger
                          MVP
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 1115

                          #117
                          Re: Caminiti Dies of Heart Attack

                          Originally posted by glucklich
                          So then all those who like Caminiti for the reasons you mentioned should have no problems with Bonds assuming Bonds took steroids?
                          I didn't say anything negative about Bonds or anyone else. It's up to MLB to police it's players, not me.

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                          • glucklich
                            Banned
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 4272

                            #118
                            Re: Caminiti Dies of Heart Attack

                            Originally posted by BengalTiger
                            I didn't say anything negative about Bonds or anyone else. It's up to MLB to police it's players, not me.
                            Fair enough.

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                            • glucklich
                              Banned
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 4272

                              #119
                              Re: Caminiti Dies of Heart Attack

                              Originally posted by BengalTiger
                              I didn't say anything negative about Bonds or anyone else. It's up to MLB to police it's players, not me.
                              Fair enough.

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                              • skitch
                                Fear Ameer
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 12349

                                #120
                                Re: Caminiti Dies of Heart Attack

                                I heard about this today at school, and was shocked.

                                It's terrible when someone dies as early as Caminiti did, and even worse knowing he had a drug problem.

                                RIP Ken, you'll be missed by the baseball world.

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