5/31 - 6/12 Game Discussion Thread

[countryboy]

Re: 5/31 - 6/12 Game Discussion Thread

Nats call up Trea Turner. He'll bat 2nd and play 2nd base tonight vs the Reds.

[Steven78]

Re: 5/31 - 6/12 Game Discussion Thread

Not me. I'm always stuck at work and miss all of the day games.

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Bummer.

I'm off Fridays so I love it.

[WaitTilNextYear]

Re: 5/31 - 6/12 Game Discussion Thread

Cubs breaking this one open in the 8th after clutch RBI hits by Russell and Baez.

[WaitTilNextYear]

Re: 5/31 - 6/12 Game Discussion Thread

Theme music for the D'Backs on defense in the 8th...

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[WaitTilNextYear]

Re: 5/31 - 6/12 Game Discussion Thread

Saying that the Dodgers should "just go for it" implies that they can't win now or aren't trying to win now, both of which aren't true.

The projection systems had them penciled in as one of the best teams in the league entering the season and they've still actually played quite well even though it's not showing up in their overall record. And as you keep pointing out, they still have a massive payroll, so they clearly are putting their resources to use.

Again, as you already pointed out, they have. There are just better ways to spend the money than locking up the decline years of aging pitchers or lighting it on fire by getting bad closers and outfielders. Just because a team is wealthy doesn't mean they shouldn't find ways to find the best value with their money. People just need to adjust their expectations of how a high payroll team is going to build their team. We're using the resources to build a deep team with a bunch of above-average guys instead of buying the best 30 year olds around.

Oh, and this is probably where I should mention that the Dodgers are looking ahead to 2018, when Clayton Kershaw and Bryce Harper are simultaneously going to be free agents. The $300 million they didn't spend on Price or Greinke will go a long way to helping them get one or the other...or both.

The Dodgers have been rolling up division title after division title with the largest payrolls in the game's history...and they're letting Kershaw twist in the wind?

Yeah, I'd say they're nothing like the Angels, who are the real team in LA who aren't doing enough to help their superstar. It's basically Trout and the 24 dwarves there. They're one of the worst teams in baseball if it weren't for him.

Division titles don't mean as much in the NL West because, on average, only 2 teams have been legitimately competing each year. Some years 3 depending on Arizona. This year, they seemed content to let SF get the luxury of a playoff series while they are on track for a 1-and-done Wild Card Round game. Or it looks to be playing out this way so far.

My point is the Dodgers get to the playoffs, but it's odd they don't see the value of strengthening the #2 and #3 slots in the rotation to try to make a deeper run. In fact they took the opposite path, weakening their TOR by letting Greinke walk. Letting Greinke go made no sense for a supposed "win now" team with postseason aspirations. Saying they're conserving payroll for a run at Bryce Harper is even riskier than running up large payrolls in the present, imo. There's no guarantee he'll go there and to my knowledge has never been linked to LA other than his hometown being within driving distance. And what if coming up a bridesmaid to the Mets/Cards/Giants/etc all of these years makes Kershaw want to explore playing elsewhere?

Not building their team with an eye toward the postseason (quality pitching vs quantity pitching) is how they're letting Kershaw twist in the wind. Until they figure this out, they'll probably continue to be a pretty good regular season team and a disappointment in the playoffs.

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[SidVish]

Re: 5/31 - 6/12 Game Discussion Thread

It won't open on Tapatalk but I'm guessing it's benny hill. Amirite?

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[rkwittem]

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Hunter Pence out 2 months

[jvalverde88]

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Saw this tweet today

Bryce Harper
Last 190 PA: 11 HR

Mike Trout
Last 190 PA: 11 HR

Madison Bumgarner
Last 190 PA: 11 HR

"He's a man, such a man
He's a real, real man's man
He's a man, such a man
He's a real, real, real, real man's man
He's a real, real, real, real man's man"

[LambertandHam]

Re: 5/31 - 6/12 Game Discussion Thread

Quality Pirate's pitching tonight. Wonder if Frankie is hurt.

[PhilliesFan13]

Re: 5/31 - 6/12 Game Discussion Thread

The Phillies scored 6 runs before the 5th inning. Is this real life?

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[steelerfan]

Re: 5/31 - 6/12 Game Discussion Thread

The Phillies scored 6 runs before the 5th inning. Is this real life?

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And the Astros with 7 in the 1st inning.

[Speedy]

Re: 5/31 - 6/12 Game Discussion Thread

Saw this tweet today

Bryce Harper
Last 190 PA: 11 HR

Mike Trout
Last 190 PA: 11 HR

Madison Bumgarner
Last 190 PA: 11 HR

I saw that today on MLB Network.

Incredible stat.

[SPTO]

Re: 5/31 - 6/12 Game Discussion Thread

to Bogaerts' hit streak.

Man that was a tense 9th inning though but all around good game by the Jays.

[Sportsforever]

Re: 5/31 - 6/12 Game Discussion Thread

If you're Snitker you have to let Julio get out of this inning...85 pitches. He has no chance to win now...guy has pitched amazing this year and has nothing to show for it.

[TripleCrown9]

Re: 5/31 - 6/12 Game Discussion Thread

JBJ and Xander are just the 3rd pair of teammates in the past 75 years to each have a hit streak of 25+ games in the same season.

The other pairs are Luis Castillo/Kevin Millar in 2002 and Shawn Green/Shannon Stewart in 1999.