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  • WaitTilNextYear
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    • Mar 2013
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    #481
    Re: 2016 Trade Deadline Thread

    Padres, Orioles discussing Melvin Upton-Ubaldo Jimenez+ swap.
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    • DamnYanks2
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      #482
      Re: 2016 Trade Deadline Thread

      Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
      Padres, Orioles discussing Melvin Upton-Ubaldo Jimenez+ swap.
      Seems pretty dumb from the padres perspective, am I missing something?

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      • Jr.
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        • Feb 2003
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        #483
        Re: 2016 Trade Deadline Thread

        Originally posted by DamnYanks2
        Seems pretty dumb from the padres perspective, am I missing something?

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        I'm guessing Ubaldo is to even out the salaries.. it really depends on who the "+" is
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        • Bard
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          • Oct 2010
          • 7803

          #484
          Re: 2016 Trade Deadline Thread

          Ubaldo + prospect for Melvin (cheaper contract for Padres, plus prospect).

          Now, also, they're seeking two prospects for Cashner in which the Blue Jays and Orioles are duking it out for both players now.
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          • BunnyHardaway
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            • Nov 2004
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            #485
            Re: 2016 Trade Deadline Thread

            Originally posted by DamnYanks2
            Seems pretty dumb from the padres perspective, am I missing something?

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            The Padres would save roughly $5 million and they have prospects that Upton is blocking.

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            • Godgers12
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              • Dec 2012
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              #486
              Re: 2016 Trade Deadline Thread

              Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
              Padres, Orioles discussing Melvin Upton-Ubaldo Jimenez+ swap.
              That literally makes ZERO sense for the Padres. Why would they want a pitcher who has been good for a grand total of half a season in his career? Get a mid level prospect or 2, but not him. Especially when you're in rebuilding mode.
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              • redsox4evur
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                • Jul 2013
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                #487
                Re: 2016 Trade Deadline Thread

                Originally posted by Godgers12
                That literally makes ZERO sense for the Padres. Why would they want a pitcher who has been good for a grand total of half a season in his career? Get a mid level prospect or 2, but not him. Especially when you're in rebuilding mode.
                Because they don't want to pay any extra money just for Upton to NOT play for them. Use it for a guy that may turn his career around ala Drew Pomeranz.
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                • BunnyHardaway
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                  • Nov 2004
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                  #488
                  Re: 2016 Trade Deadline Thread

                  Originally posted by redsox4evur
                  Because they don't want to pay any extra money just for Upton to NOT play for them. Use it for a guy that may turn his career around ala Drew Pomeranz.
                  I don't think Ubaldo fits that description. I think he's done. His control is as bad as it has ever been and he no longer has the elite velocity to compensate.

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                  • redsox4evur
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                    • Jul 2013
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                    #489
                    Re: 2016 Trade Deadline Thread

                    Originally posted by BunnyHardaway
                    I don't think Ubaldo fits that description. I think he's done. His control is as bad as it has ever been and he no longer has the elite velocity to compensate.
                    Like I said he may turn it around, would I bet anything of monetary value on it? Hell no. But there's a chance. I just used Pomeranz because he was the first guy that came to my mind of someone who got better because they were playing in Petco. I could go do some research about other guys but I'm gonna be lazy and not do it.
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                    • Godgers12
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                      • Dec 2012
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                      #490
                      Re: 2016 Trade Deadline Thread

                      Originally posted by redsox4evur
                      Like I said he may turn it around, would I bet anything of monetary value on it? Hell no. But there's a chance. I just used Pomeranz because he was the first guy that came to my mind of someone who got better because they were playing in Petco. I could go do some research about other guys but I'm gonna be lazy and not do it.
                      Turn what around? Ubaldo has never been good other than for half a season when he was a legit Cy Young contender. He's been crap ever sense.
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                      • Bard
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                        • Oct 2010
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                        #491
                        Re: 2016 Trade Deadline Thread

                        Originally posted by Godgers12
                        Turn what around? Ubaldo has never been good other than for half a season when he was a legit Cy Young contender. He's been crap ever sense.
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                        Just going to say his 2008-2010 seasons were pretty solid. As well as his 2013 season. So his "half a season" is actually four seasons. He isn't a good pitcher anymore, but he has shown flashes of being solid in the past.

                        Also the whole Pomeranz and Jimenez thing is really skewed. Pom is 27 and cheap, Ubaldo is neither.
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                        • Speedy
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                          • Apr 2008
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                          #492
                          Re: 2016 Trade Deadline Thread

                          Originally posted by Bard
                          Look up stats sometimes before posting


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                          • kehlis
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                            • Jul 2008
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                            #493
                            Re: 2016 Trade Deadline Thread

                            Originally posted by Godgers12
                            Turn what around? Ubaldo has never been good other than for half a season when he was a legit Cy Young contender. He's been crap ever sense.
                            "Turning it around" is an expression commonly used for someone who was once good and isn't anymore. It's used to express hope that said player will return to the form they once showed when they were good.
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                            • SPTO
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                              • Feb 2003
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                              #494
                              Re: 2016 Trade Deadline Thread

                              The Blue Jays are also in on the Melvin Upton Jr. talks as well. No reported names on the Jays side but it's nice to see them along with the O's being close to a deal there.

                              The Jays have also been talking with the Padres about Cashner but there's a hold up as there's a perceived difference in value between the two teams. I'm thinking the Jays are trying to minimize the kind of prospects they'd have to give up for Cashner.
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                              • Jr.
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                                • Feb 2003
                                • 19171

                                #495
                                Re: 2016 Trade Deadline Thread

                                Originally posted by SPTO
                                The Blue Jays are also in on the Melvin Upton Jr. talks as well. No reported names on the Jays side but it's nice to see them along with the O's being close to a deal there.

                                The Jays have also been talking with the Padres about Cashner but there's a hold up as there's a perceived difference in value between the two teams. I'm thinking the Jays are trying to minimize the kind of prospects they'd have to give up for Cashner.
                                The Padres could be telling the Jays that the prospects they're offering are too much and Cashner really isn't that good. You never know.
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