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  • mjb2124
    Hall Of Fame
    • Aug 2002
    • 13649

    #1

    The Boss looking for some Starting Pitchers

    Well, not a complete overhaul obviously, but he's looking at a few very good starting pitchers and the coaching staff right now:

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    Yankees: Boss says Go after Johnson
    Vazquez may be lure to get lefty; Pedro also of interest
    Wednesday, October 27, 2004
    BY DAN GRAZIANO
    Star-Ledger Staff

    The first day of the Yankees' organizational meetings in Tampa, Fla., dragged into the night, with team executives meeting with owner George Steinbrenner over dinner at Malio's steakhouse. And while Joe Torre's coaching staff is likely to be the first item on the team's off-season agenda, there were some big names kicking around the table.

    According to a baseball official with knowledge of the discussion, Steinbrenner asked his front office about rekindling their summer pursuit of Arizona Diamondbacks ace left-hander Randy Johnson, even if it means giving up on Javier Vazquez.

    Steinbrenner also asked about the team's chances of signing Boston right-hander Pedro Martinez, who will be a free agent, and about the availability of Oakland aces Tim Hudson and Barry Zito.

    Team executives are down on the idea of Martinez, who doesn't throw as hard as he used to throw and is loathed in the Yankees clubhouse. Zito also hasn't pitched up to his 2002 Cy Young standards over the past two seasons, and most people seem to believe the A's will sign Hudson to an extension.

    But Johnson is the guy Steinbrenner has coveted all year, and the Yankees' inability to make a trade for the Big Unit in July was one of the big disappointments of the season until the playoffs.

    The Diamondbacks scouted the Yankees' minor-league system in July but found nothing they considered worthy of acquiring in exchange for Johnson. That situation hasn't improved, but the Yankees are considering a couple of possible scenarios that could land the big lefty.

    First, they could dangle Vazquez, who had a disappointing second half of his first Yankee season. Vazquez has three years and $34.5 million left on his contract, but if Arizona likes Vazquez, the Yankees might not have to pay any. Vazquez's $10.5 million salary next year would be a savings from the $17 million they owe Johnson, and Vazquez, at 28, is 13 years younger.

    There are people in the Yankees' front office who believe Vazquez is a good enough pitcher to someday be a No. 1 starter for the Yankees, but Steinbrenner always gets the final say.

    Another possibility -- one the Yankees explored back in July when they discussed getting Brad Penny from Florida and flipping him to Arizona for Johnson -- is getting a third team involved.

    The Chicago White Sox this week expressed some interest in Johnson, but it's believed they can't afford him and would only be acquiring him in order to deal him elsewhere.

    The Yankees also are expected to explore the free-agent pitching market, with David Wells, Carl Pavano, Derek Lowe and Martinez looming as potential targets.

    As for the coaching staff, the Yankees continue to wait to see if Willie Randolph gets the Mets' managerial job and creates a bench coach vacancy.

    They also continue to wait to see what happens with pitching coach Mel Stottlemyre, who could decide to retire but also might not be asked back. There has been talk of firing bullpen coach Rich Monteleone.
  • NYJets
    Hall Of Fame
    • Jul 2002
    • 18637

    #2
    Re: The Boss looking for some Starting Pitchers

    Ughh...Pedro? Trading a guy with Vaquez's potential for someone who will retire in a couple of years. I know he had a bad year, but he pitched well in the first half. I don't know if it's the pressure, or just all mechanical problems that can be worked out, but you have to give him more than one season.l

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    • NYJets
      Hall Of Fame
      • Jul 2002
      • 18637

      #3
      Re: The Boss looking for some Starting Pitchers

      Ughh...Pedro? Trading a guy with Vaquez's potential for someone who will retire in a couple of years. I know he had a bad year, but he pitched well in the first half. I don't know if it's the pressure, or just all mechanical problems that can be worked out, but you have to give him more than one season.l

      Get Younger!
      Originally posted by Jay Bilas
      The question isn't whether UConn belongs with the elites, but over the last 20 years, whether the rest of the college basketball elite belongs with UConn

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      • nkhera1
        All Star
        • Oct 2003
        • 5913

        #4
        Re: The Boss looking for some Starting Pitchers

        don't go for Johnson, he is at best a 1 or 2 years solution. Stick to vazquez and get a great pitching coach, who can fix his mechanics.
        Just wait till Arsenal moves into Emirates Stadium.

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        • nkhera1
          All Star
          • Oct 2003
          • 5913

          #5
          Re: The Boss looking for some Starting Pitchers

          don't go for Johnson, he is at best a 1 or 2 years solution. Stick to vazquez and get a great pitching coach, who can fix his mechanics.
          Just wait till Arsenal moves into Emirates Stadium.

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          • dieselboy
            --------------
            • Dec 2002
            • 18040

            #6
            Re: The Boss looking for some Starting Pitchers

            No suprise here. He overhauled a lot of the staff last year as well.

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            • dieselboy
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              • Dec 2002
              • 18040

              #7
              Re: The Boss looking for some Starting Pitchers

              No suprise here. He overhauled a lot of the staff last year as well.

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              • fugazi
                MVP
                • Apr 2003
                • 3749

                #8
                Re: The Boss looking for some Starting Pitchers

                AGAIN?................

                Do the Stanks even have a minor league system?
                Oh, yeah, they do....its called the Brewers, the Xpos, the Pirates, the NL West, etc.

                Hey, George. You suck.
                Australian Rules Football...just sayin'

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                • fugazi
                  MVP
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 3749

                  #9
                  Re: The Boss looking for some Starting Pitchers

                  AGAIN?................

                  Do the Stanks even have a minor league system?
                  Oh, yeah, they do....its called the Brewers, the Xpos, the Pirates, the NL West, etc.

                  Hey, George. You suck.
                  Australian Rules Football...just sayin'

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                  • BatsareBugs
                    LVP
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 12553

                    #10
                    Re: The Boss looking for some Starting Pitchers

                    Alright Padres, lock up Wells so he doesn't go back to the Yanks...

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                    • BatsareBugs
                      LVP
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 12553

                      #11
                      Re: The Boss looking for some Starting Pitchers

                      Alright Padres, lock up Wells so he doesn't go back to the Yanks...

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                      • MSRoble33
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 1840

                        #12
                        Re: The Boss looking for some Starting Pitchers

                        I kinda hope the Boss DOES give up Vasquez to get Randy Johnson in some fashion... that means in a year or three Randy will be out of baseball and Yanks will have nothing to show for it at that time..

                        of course by then he'll probably have bought anything else that isn't bolted down, but still.

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                        • MSRoble33
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 1840

                          #13
                          Re: The Boss looking for some Starting Pitchers

                          I kinda hope the Boss DOES give up Vasquez to get Randy Johnson in some fashion... that means in a year or three Randy will be out of baseball and Yanks will have nothing to show for it at that time..

                          of course by then he'll probably have bought anything else that isn't bolted down, but still.

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                          • Karlos05
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                            • Mar 2003
                            • 5814

                            #14
                            Re: The Boss looking for some Starting Pitchers

                            Well I can't say I'm shocked. It's just going to be intresting to see a who The Boss aims all his money at.

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                            • Karlos05
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                              • Mar 2003
                              • 5814

                              #15
                              Re: The Boss looking for some Starting Pitchers

                              Well I can't say I'm shocked. It's just going to be intresting to see a who The Boss aims all his money at.

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