2017 MLB Trade Deadline Thread

[DamnYanks2]

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Might be biased but I think Kaprielian is gonna end up being prettttay good.

Looking forward to seeing who the A's trade him to in 5 years. SMH.

I was one of the ones to have concerns about Gray's ability to stay healthy but I have hopes and really do wish that he's past them and can continue being a kick-*** pitcher.

Oh yea Kap has frontline stuff. Unfortunately he just can't stay off the DL. Hopefully he can stay on the field. He has immense potential.

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[Mabster]

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As an A's fan, you've got to hold onto something, right? That Carney Lansford action figure and Bash Brothers poster of rookie year Mark McGwire and prime Jose Canseco can only do so much. And the Bob Welch baseball card. And the Jason Giambi bobblehead. And the Dave Stewart jersey...

And the 9 World Series wins. We're doing OK.

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[WaitTilNextYear]

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And the 9 World Series wins. We're doing OK.

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Ouch, hit a nerve?

I mean lately. Last title was '89? And the 3-peat in the early 70s. Four of 'em since moving to Oakland?

It seems like your team is the only one, with a real fanbase, in MLB where fans put up with perpetual non-contention. I don't like that. Oakland fans deserve better.

[Speedy]

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Once again that meddling idiot of an owner sabotages his team. Now the Orioles are just like the Jays, a team that needs retooling at best and a rebuild at worst but they're stuck in the middle.

Doesn't help either their drafts and international FAs have been subpar the past few years.

[Mabster]

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Ouch, hit a nerve?

I mean lately. Last title was '89? And the 3-peat in the early 70s. Four of 'em since moving to Oakland?

It seems like your team is the only one, with a real fanbase, in MLB where fans put up with perpetual non-contention. I don't like that. Oakland fans deserve better.

No nerves hit. I just didn't understand what I guess was an attempt at trying to make fun of the A's history. Giants fans wore out the what have you done recently argument years ago. Is four World Series wins in 49 years really something to be ashamed about?

They reach the playoffs in 2012-2014, that was three years ago, and labeled perpetual non contenders.

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[rkwittem]

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Think you're highly exaggerating both those narratives.

You're not. Yankees fans on the internet have become huge prospect huggers overnight. It's almost like they've never had any before.

No nerves hit. I just didn't understand what I guess was an attempt at trying to make fun of the A's history. Giants fans wore out the what have you done recently argument years ago. Is four World Series wins in 49 years really something to be ashamed about?

They reach the playoffs in 2012-2014, that was three years ago, and labeled perpetual non contenders.

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Nothing personal to Cubs fans but making fun of the A's for non-contention is a classic "pot, kettle" example. One WS doesn't erase 100 years of being known as lovable losers.

Once the A's get a real stadium (which I hear they are working on) and they can keep drafting and developing well, they will be right in the thick of it. I will say that Houston being rock-solid down the middle of the diamond for the next 5-10 years makes winning the AL West look rather daunting, but it's not total darkness and misery for the A's. I do wish they would open their wallets a bit more.

Oh yeah I almost forgot- I saw someone (matrix?) post about Darvish attracting Otani to LA. Otani will be subject to the new intl free agent signing rules and slotting. So that'll depend on what the Dodgers are looking at for intl bonus slot money available in the offseason. (Pretty sure I saw the A's added that to the deal with Gray to NY).

[WaitTilNextYear]

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No nerves hit. I just didn't understand what I guess was an attempt at trying to make fun of the A's history. Giants fans wore out the what have you done recently argument years ago. Is four World Series wins in 49 years really something to be ashamed about?

They reach the playoffs in 2012-2014, that was three years ago, and labeled perpetual non contenders.

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Apologies if I didn't construe my point in a clear manner, but it wasn't my intent to get into a pissing match over number of organizational championships won.

Rather, my point was that the A's org, a very storied one with a great history (hence why I sprinkled some choice names into my original post) and supportive fans, has seemed to muddle along where they aren't really contending and they aren't really rebuilding. It seems like Billy Beane is on some quest to trade away and reacquire Jed Lowrie and Adam Rosales as many times as possible, but beyond that, I'm not sure anyone can discern a coherent strategy there--I sure don't.

The last few years along with the usual suspects (the stadium, the ownership, to move or not to move...) is just disappointing. I would like for the A's to be that young, feisty team like they were 10, 15 years ago and I'm not sure why they can't replicate something like that (or if they are even really trying), but it seems to be a full-on embrace of their midmarket-ness instead.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Don't listen to that gibberish (I read it the same way). Cubs fans making fun the A's for non-contention is a classic "pot, kettle" example. One WS doesn't erase 100 years of being known as lovable losers.

Once the A's get a real stadium (which I hear they are working on) and they can keep drafting and developing well, they will be right in the thick of it. I will say that Houston being rock-solid down the middle of the diamond for the next 5-10 years makes winning the AL West look rather daunting, but it's not total darkness and misery for the A's. I do wish they would open their wallets a bit more.

Oh yeah I almost forgot- I saw someone (matrix?) post about Darvish attracting Otani to LA. Otani will be subject to the new intl free agent signing rules and slotting. So that'll depend on what the Dodgers are looking at for intl bonus slot money available in the offseason. (Pretty sure I saw the A's added that to the deal with Gray to NY).

Totally missing my point...not an organizational pissing match.

When the Cubs were bad forever, it wasn't for lack of trying. They had an incompetent organization from top-to-bottom. The A's have proven they can be competitive with their current braintrust and it just seems like they are choosing not to be insofar as that's even plausible.

When the new regime took over in Chicago, what they did started making sense and formed a coherent strategy. And after a couple of more terrible years, there was tangible progress. Whereas the A's don't really seem to be striving at anything in particular. At least not as far as I can tell.

[Majingir]

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Bautista on revocable waivers. This just days after reports claimed they never asked him to waive his NTC. So clearly they will deal him if the right offer comes. Wonder if this is just first of many waiver placements Jays make. No shot at 2017 playoffs, and only reason to stick with current roster is to sell overpriced tickets for 2018(which sucks to say because for longest while, Jays games were the best value sporting event in the city. Even when they weren't good, it was still worth paying to go to games every now and then. Now it's jacked up prices where people with less of a disposable income will have to know they're paying for a good team or else it's not worth it.)

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Bautista on revocable waivers. This just days after reports claimed they never asked him to waive his NTC. So clearly they will deal him if the right offer comes. Wonder if this is just first of many waiver placements Jays make. No shot at 2017 playoffs, and only reason to stick with current roster is to sell overpriced tickets for 2018(which sucks to say because for longest while, Jays games were the best value sporting event in the city. Even when they weren't good, it was still worth paying to go to games every now and then. Now it's jacked up prices where people with less of a disposable income will have to know they're paying for a good team or else it's not worth it.)

Doesn't mean anything. They pass pretty much everyone through revocable waivers each August. They should try to trade him though.

[SPTO]

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Doesn't mean anything. They pass pretty much everyone through revocable waivers each August. They should try to trade him though.

I think that's what they're trying to do. Either way, barring a miracle Bautista won't be in a Jays uniform next year.

[Qdiddy]

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He's hard to move, he's a drastically declining player who the whole league pretty much views as an *******. I wouldn't expect anything viable in return if they do find someone dumb enough to take him


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[rkwittem]

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I highly doubt the whole league views him that way. GMs don't look at stuff as emotionally as fans and players do. If they see a hole in their lineup and the price is right, they'll make the move and worry about bat flips later.

[Majingir]

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2-3 months of Bautista to add some home runs to your team? I think some team out there would take him. Cards was one I mentioned before I think could use him.

Or even a team like the Royals. Move Gordon to the bench and insert Bautista into the OF.
Angels another one that I think could have some interest. Bautista easily over Cron/Valbuena for sure at 1B.

Imagine a Trout-Pujols-Bautista 2-3-4 lineup. Pitchers would hate that.

[kehlis]

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2-3 months of Bautista to add some home runs to your team? I think some team out there would take him. Cards was one I mentioned before I think could use him.

Or even a team like the Royals. Move Gordon to the bench and insert Bautista into the OF.
Angels another one that I think could have some interest. Bautista easily over Cron/Valbuena for sure at 1B.

Imagine a Trout-Pujols-Bautista 2-3-4 lineup. Pitchers would hate that.

He still has to wave his no trade clause for any deal to happen.