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  • kenp86
    MVP
    • May 2008
    • 2979

    #1651
    Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

    Originally posted by decga
    Low level prospects or expiring contract. Maybe an aging Markakis. Castellnos can also play the corner OF spots.
    Crazy if you think Nick is only worth an expiring deal or low level guy. Yeah his glove isnt supurb, but duse can hit. Imo, ge probably ends up at 1st.
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    • Sportsforever
      NL MVP
      • Mar 2005
      • 20368

      #1652
      Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

      Originally posted by decga
      Hell I would do it. You got a CF in Inciarte locked up. Yelich has the arm for Rf and has long term contract. Just as long with keep Albies.
      Are you serious? So, you would give away the potential of an Andruw Jones type of player for 10 years for 4-5 sure years of Yelich type of player? I couldn't do it...Yelich is a really, really nice player, but IMO you don't trade prospects like Acuna unless it brings you back THE missing piece that makes you a World Series contender right now. Yelich doesn't do that at all for us.
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      • Bard
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        • Oct 2010
        • 7803

        #1653
        Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

        Originally posted by Sportsforever
        Are you serious? So, you would give away the potential of an Andruw Jones type of player for 10 years for 4-5 sure years of Yelich type of player? I couldn't do it...Yelich is a really, really nice player, but IMO you don't trade prospects like Acuna unless it brings you back THE missing piece that makes you a World Series contender right now. Yelich doesn't do that at all for us.
        The only thing I am disagreeing with is the 10 years part. You get Yelich for I believe 5 seasons, and once Acuna is up you only guarantee get him for 6 years. You have an almost guaranteed all-star in Yelich under very cheap, or you could bank that Acuna will pan out and be as good as Yelich over the time he is in Atlanta.

        Just preference of course. I do this deal 8/10 times. Depends on the rest of the package of course, but you could sway me almost 80% of the time in this deal.

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        • TheMatrix31
          RF
          • Jul 2002
          • 52922

          #1654
          Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

          I'd try to get Acuna and Yelich in the same lineup.

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          • Sportsforever
            NL MVP
            • Mar 2005
            • 20368

            #1655
            Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

            Originally posted by Bard
            The only thing I am disagreeing with is the 10 years part. You get Yelich for I believe 5 seasons, and once Acuna is up you only guarantee get him for 6 years. You have an almost guaranteed all-star in Yelich under very cheap, or you could bank that Acuna will pan out and be as good as Yelich over the time he is in Atlanta.

            Just preference of course. I do this deal 8/10 times. Depends on the rest of the package of course, but you could sway me almost 80% of the time in this deal.

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            Well, I believe that if Acuna becomes what I'm saying he could be, you re-sign him to an extension and he stays in Atlanta at least 10 years.
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            • TheMatrix31
              RF
              • Jul 2002
              • 52922

              #1656
              Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

              Originally posted by Sportsforever
              Well, I believe that if Acuna becomes what I'm saying he could be, you re-sign him to an extension and he stays in Atlanta at least 10 years.
              If Acuna emerges as we hope, I'd really like to do what the Pirates did with McCutchen, lock him into a team-friendly long-term deal really, really quick into his career.

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              • KSUowls
                All Star
                • Jul 2009
                • 5891

                #1657
                Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

                Originally posted by Sportsforever
                Are you serious? So, you would give away the potential of an Andruw Jones type of player for 10 years for 4-5 sure years of Yelich type of player? I couldn't do it...Yelich is a really, really nice player, but IMO you don't trade prospects like Acuna unless it brings you back THE missing piece that makes you a World Series contender right now. Yelich doesn't do that at all for us.
                Completely agree.

                This isn't a knock on him because Yellich is a solid player, but he's not the guy you build a franchise around. He's a borderline all-star at a position that has a lot of competition for that AS spot. Clearly he's no slouch. He's also on a team friendly deal for the next 4 years. He's not Mike Trout though. Acuna's deal will be even more friendly for at least the first few years, and his ceiling is that of a franchise cornerstone.

                He could still be a swing in a miss, but Acuna for Yellich doesn't make any sense (even before you start tacking on additional top prospects). Acuna is set to make his MLB debut early in the 2018 season too, so it's not like the Braves would be trading away some to prospect who won't see the majors for another 2-3 years.

                Yellich doesn't make this team a WS contender in 2018. So you've already lost 1 of his team friendly deal years. So, really you're saying 3 years of Yellich before he has to get paid for 6 years of Acuna. Easy choice imo.

                I would love to see the Braves swing a deal for him, but you don't get better by trading a potential franchise player about to make his MLB debut for someone who has never been an all-star. Especially when your team is still more than just 1 piece away.
                Last edited by KSUowls; 01-19-2018, 11:22 AM.

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                • rdnk
                  All Star
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 5730

                  #1658
                  Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

                  The Braves were ready to push for a playoff spot next season, then I'd understand a Yelich for Acuna trade from the point of risk mitigation. Braves are likely pushing in 2019 though. They would be better off trying to take advantage of the stagnated FA market and fill some holes.

                  If I'm the Marlins, I am asking for at least a Eaton package for Yelich.
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                  • countryboy
                    Growing pains
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 52789

                    #1659
                    Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

                    Red Sox reportedly offered J.D. Martinez $125MM over 5 years.
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                    • WaitTilNextYear
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                      • Mar 2013
                      • 16830

                      #1660
                      Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

                      Originally posted by countryboy
                      Red Sox reportedly offered J.D. Martinez $125MM over 5 years.
                      And he should accept that, lol. Just sign already bro
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                      • SPTO
                        binging
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 68046

                        #1661
                        Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

                        The Jays are among 1 of 6 teams in on Yellich discussions. Apparently the starting point for such a trade is Bo Bichette. I'd be a little bummed out but I think trading him wouldn't hurt in the long run because Yellich is quite talented and is controllable for 5 more years. The issue is, it won't be just a one for one swap and the Marlins are eying other players in the Jays farm system that I don't think they exactly want to ship out.
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                        • countryboy
                          Growing pains
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 52789

                          #1662
                          Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

                          Bill DeWitt says that the Cardinals are most likely done making "major" moves.
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                          • TripleCrown9
                            Keep the Faith
                            • May 2010
                            • 23698

                            #1663
                            Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

                            All I know is it wouldn't take me nearly as long if someone offered me a contract for 125M.
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                            • Nulap
                              Rookie
                              • Jul 2013
                              • 196

                              #1664
                              Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

                              Grichuk to Jays for Dominic Leone and Conner Greene

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                              • Nulap
                                Rookie
                                • Jul 2013
                                • 196

                                #1665
                                Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

                                Mariners claim Chasen Bradford off waivers from Mets.


                                Still pissed this is the guy they waived for AGonner

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