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  • Sportsforever
    NL MVP
    • Mar 2005
    • 20368

    #2236
    Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

    I get the angst over the Hosmer contract, BUT...at least the Padres are doing something. For so many years San Diego fans have had to put up with crap...now the Padres actually make a move and people dump on it. I hope it works out...I hope the Padre minor league system produces a bunch of stars...and I hope they win the NL West in the next 3 years.
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    • SPTO
      binging
      • Feb 2003
      • 68046

      #2237
      Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

      Originally posted by Sportsforever
      I get the angst over the Hosmer contract, BUT...at least the Padres are doing something. For so many years San Diego fans have had to put up with crap...now the Padres actually make a move and people dump on it. I hope it works out...I hope the Padre minor league system produces a bunch of stars...and I hope they win the NL West in the next 3 years.
      I think one reason why people are dumping on the move is that we saw what happened a couple years ago when they went crazy trying to build a team on the fly and it failed miserably. I think Hosmer is a pretty good player and one who will play very well both on and off the field but to me he feels like a guy that would be more suited to a team that's already established.

      On the other hand with the Padres having a boatload of prospects coming in Hosmer is an excellent veteran voice for them to listen to and follow.
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      • BleacherBum2310
        All Star
        • Aug 2010
        • 7107

        #2238
        Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

        career wRC+: Dickerson 116 Hosmer 111

        one gets 140 Million one gets DFA.

        good for the Padres for doing something... I guess. I just think Hosmer is just fine 8 years though it's not as bad at 1st thought.
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        • nemesis04
          RIP Ty My Buddy
          • Feb 2004
          • 13530

          #2239
          Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

          Originally posted by franch1se
          Next year (2019)

          C - Hedges
          1B - Hosmer
          2B - Urias
          3B - ?
          SS - Tatis
          LF - Myers
          CF - Margot
          RF - Renfroe/Cordero?

          Nice core

          Gore
          Quantrill
          Espinoza
          Luchessi
          Lauer
          Paddack
          Baez
          Morejon
          Allen
          Nix

          All coming up for pitching help.

          I was a little upset at first with the 8/144 but after seeing the terms it does set up pretty nicely.

          5/100 (Age: 28-32)
          If he's producing he'll get way more on the market than 13 a year so we basically signed him for 5/100.

          If he does come back, 3/39 is a good deal
          Headley would play third, no?
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          • ShowTyme15
            LADetermined
            • Jan 2004
            • 11853

            #2240
            Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

            Originally posted by nemesis04
            Headley would play third, no?
            Possibility he may get traded again.

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            • duke776
              MVP
              • Nov 2006
              • 3044

              #2241
              Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

              If the Rays DFA'd Corey Dickerson and there's no issues we don't know about yet (i.e. potential suspension), then I would have to assume Adeiny Hecchavaria will meet the same fate. Both making about $6 million through arbitration which means non guaranteed contract.

              Who knows though, I'm sure someone will work out a trade for Dickerson and the Rays won't be on the hook for the 30 day termination pay, can't say that I'd have much faith in finding a trade partner for Hecchavaria though. I know his defense is great, but that only gets you so far and a lot of teams are set at SS.

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              • TripleCrown9
                Keep the Faith
                • May 2010
                • 23704

                #2242
                Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

                Red Sox officially sign Eduardo Nunez.

                I dig it. He came in last year and immediately provided a boost.
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                • ShowTyme15
                  LADetermined
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 11853

                  #2243
                  Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

                  Originally posted by duke776
                  If the Rays DFA'd Corey Dickerson and there's no issues we don't know about yet (i.e. potential suspension), then I would have to assume Adeiny Hecchavaria will meet the same fate. Both making about $6 million through arbitration which means non guaranteed contract.

                  Who knows though, I'm sure someone will work out a trade for Dickerson and the Rays won't be on the hook for the 30 day termination pay, can't say that I'd have much faith in finding a trade partner for Hecchavaria though. I know his defense is great, but that only gets you so far and a lot of teams are set at SS.
                  There is no issue. They Rays just prefer the 3 years of control with C.J. Cron. These 2 moves they made yesterday were cost cutting apparently.
                  Last edited by ShowTyme15; 02-18-2018, 11:22 AM.

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                  • franch1se
                    All Star
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 9060

                    #2244
                    Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

                    Originally posted by nemesis04
                    Headley would play third, no?
                    This year yes, but he's not in the long term plans. My post was for 2019

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                    • BigOscar
                      MVP
                      • May 2016
                      • 2971

                      #2245
                      Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

                      Originally posted by ShowTyme15
                      There is no issue. They Rays just prefer the 3 years of control with C.J. Cron. These 2 moves they made yesterday were cost cutting apparently.
                      Not sure if I'd rather have 1 year of CJ Cron than 3 years of CJ Cron though tbh. Bang average 1st baseman aren't exactly gold dust

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                      • DieHardYankee26
                        BING BONG
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 10178

                        #2246
                        Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

                        Some teams are just now signing up for Tanking 101, the Rays are taking graduate level courses.

                        Meanwhile, Boras got Hosmer 8 years. If JD gets 7, I will never doubt this man again.
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                        • ShowTyme15
                          LADetermined
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 11853

                          #2247
                          Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

                          Originally posted by BigOscar
                          Not sure if I'd rather have 1 year of CJ Cron than 3 years of CJ Cron though tbh. Bang average 1st baseman aren't exactly gold dust
                          I get that, but they currently have no first baseman other than Brad Miller so he was sort of a need for them. Plus he is cost effective. You never know a change of scenery may be what Cron needs.
                          Last edited by ShowTyme15; 02-18-2018, 01:32 PM.

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                          • BigOscar
                            MVP
                            • May 2016
                            • 2971

                            #2248
                            Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

                            Originally posted by ShowTyme15
                            I get that, but they currently have no first baseman other than Brad Miller so he was sort of a need for them. Plus he is cost effective. You never know a change of scenery may be what Cron needs.
                            He's just always struck me as such a nothing player for a first basemen. You'd think you could pick up someone for next to nothing on the FA market if they got that desperate for a barely replacement level first baseman. But I guess with Bauers and maybe McKay not that far away they are just after anyone cheap

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                            • tazbk
                              R**k**
                              • Apr 2003
                              • 141

                              #2249
                              Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

                              Originally posted by DieHardYankee26
                              Some teams are just now signing up for Tanking 101, the Rays are taking graduate level courses.

                              Meanwhile, Boras got Hosmer 8 years. If JD gets 7, I will never doubt this man again.
                              8 years at 18 million per. Not exactly what he wanted. I view this as 5 years at 21 million a year. The back-end tips in the favor of SD. They get him for age 28 -32 age seasons (prime years). If he opts out after that I'm sure they won't be upset. If he stays they are only on the hook for 3 years in his mid-30's at 13 per. Not bad. I'd say SD won this deal not Boras.
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                              • The Kid 24
                                It's Show Time!
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 14766

                                #2250
                                Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

                                Originally posted by tazbk
                                8 years at 18 million per. Not exactly what he wanted. I view this as 5 years at 21 million a year. The back-end tips in the favor of SD. They get him for age 28 -32 age seasons (prime years). If he opts out after that I'm sure they won't be upset. If he stays they are only on the hook for 3 years in his mid-30's at 13 per. Not bad. I'd say SD won this deal not Boras.
                                Its been reported 1st 5 years at $20 mil per.

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