2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

[dubcity]

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It's a one year deal, so he'll be on the trade block near the deadline.

[SPTO]

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Apparently Lucroy had turned down a 3 year 23 million deal by the Rockies earlier this winter. The way free agency went this year he should've came back quickly and asked for that deal again rather than this pipsqueak deal with Oakland.

[Hammerhunker]

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Apparently Lucroy had turned down a 3 year 23 million deal by the Rockies earlier this winter. The way free agency went this year he should've came back quickly and asked for that deal again rather than this pipsqueak deal with Oakland.

Absolutely! I was able to really appreciate what this guy does behind the plate, how he calls a game, and how he handles pitchers. He had such an impact on that young Rockies staff in a short period of time, very disappointed they couldn't resign him.

[Master Live 013]

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This paragraph from Baseball America:

"But whatever the reasons, the owners have routed the players in the first full offseason of the most recent Collective Bargaining Agreement. In exchange for chefs in the clubhouse and extra off days, the owners managed to severely restrict free agent spending, tamp down international amateur bonuses and keep the qualifying offers that have proven to douse a free agent’s market. The players got some nice perks. The owners figured out a way to save millions of dollars".

Oh Tony.

[bhurst99]

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Are the owners really saving millions of dollars? I get that some clubs (Miami, Tampa Bay, Oakland) aren't spending but I'm guessing collectively that the owners are going to spend more money on salaries in 2018 than ever.

Sure maybe it's not at the same rate as the increase in revenues but this idea that every team has put away their pocketbook is ridiculous.

From a player's perspective, the biggest problem I see is there was an absolute glut of free agents and players who were available for trade this off-season. That's what has hurt the market more than the collective bargaining agreement or any giant conspiracy by the owners.

[notsobabybombers]

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Twins nearing deal with Lance Lynn to a one year deal for $10 mil.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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This paragraph from Baseball America:

"But whatever the reasons, the owners have routed the players in the first full offseason of the most recent Collective Bargaining Agreement. In exchange for chefs in the clubhouse and extra off days, the owners managed to severely restrict free agent spending, tamp down international amateur bonuses and keep the qualifying offers that have proven to douse a free agent’s market. The players got some nice perks. The owners figured out a way to save millions of dollars".

Oh Tony.

Yeah, but they get to wear nicknames on their jerseys for one weekend. So, which side is really coming out ahead?

[Sportsforever]

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Are the owners really saving millions of dollars? I get that some clubs (Miami, Tampa Bay, Oakland) aren't spending but I'm guessing collectively that the owners are going to spend more money on salaries in 2018 than ever.

Sure maybe it's not at the same rate as the increase in revenues but this idea that every team has put away their pocketbook is ridiculous.

From a player's perspective, the biggest problem I see is there was an absolute glut of free agents and players who were available for trade this off-season. That's what has hurt the market more than the collective bargaining agreement or any giant conspiracy by the owners.

I know that Miami, Tampa Bay, and Oakland get ripped for not spending, but I read this past week that the average percentage of revenue that those 3 teams spent on their roster was 47%, the exact same % as the Yankees. If that is true (and I haven't verified it), it's hard to say they aren't spending like everyone else.

[ShowTyme15]

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Sounds like Jake Arrieta and Alex Cobb could come off the board this week.

[DieHardYankee26]

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That's a bad metric because the Yankees don't have to spend a large percentage of their revenue to still be spending a ton of money.

The Dodgers and Tigers spend 68%. The Blue Jays 63, the Rangers 60, the Orioles 58, the Phillies are at 57. The Yankees just brought in 3.3 billion when second place brought in 2.4 from 2011-2017 (Red Sox, who spend 55%). There's actually a decent argument that we should have a $300 million payroll but I don't think people would like that very much .

[notsobabybombers]

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Sounds like Jake Arrieta and Alex Cobb could come off the board this week.

Other than them, are there any big dominoes left to fall? Martinez, Hosmer, and Darvish have already signed. Who's left?

[TripleCrown9]

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I feel like those are the two biggest ones left.

[ShowTyme15]

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I feel like those are the two biggest ones left.

They are, but it sounds like they both may actually sign somewhere this upcoming week.

Jeremy Hellickson is still out there as well.

[countryboy]

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Twins nearing deal with Lance Lynn to a one year deal for $10 mil.

Nooooo!!!


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[BigOscar]

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I know that Miami, Tampa Bay, and Oakland get ripped for not spending, but I read this past week that the average percentage of revenue that those 3 teams spent on their roster was 47%, the exact same % as the Yankees. If that is true (and I haven't verified it), it's hard to say they aren't spending like everyone else.

I honestly don't think this is the Rays tanking this year, this is just them preparing to reaaaaaally tank next year. Their payroll looks like being something like $70m (plus all the cheap/minimum contracts), but $40m of that comes off next year (Span, Ramos, Gomez, Hechevaria and the relievers). From the $30m or so left in guaranteed money for the following year, something like 2/3rds of it are going to Kiermaier, Archer and Colome, who would be the ones traded. So if they trade their 3 assets and don't re-sign any of the outgoing free agents, they'll have a payroll of only about $10m above minimum (even less if they don't offer Miller arbitration)

They are set up perfectly to be a comically cheap team next year, as far as I can see.