Surpising stat about Carlos Beltran

[MSRoble33]

Re: Surpising stat about Carlos Beltran

Manny's offense more than makes up for an occasional error. His fielding isn't as bad as everyone thinks. He just makes some boneheaded plays that they like to show on sportscenter.

Manny also has MAJOR baserunning issues as well... I remember even back in his Cleveland days, he'd get picked off constantly, get caught in run-downs he shouldn't have even gotten into, just crazy stuff, some stuff they teach you in Pinto League! He HAS gotten better, but it's still there..

I said I'd "take Beltran over Manny"... never said "Beltran was a better player than Manny".. there's a difference.. In MY mind, the offensive upgrade Manny is is not as great as the amount of a defensive upgrade Beltran is, then factor in Beltran runs bases better, and is younger.

[MSRoble33]

Re: Surpising stat about Carlos Beltran

Manny's offense more than makes up for an occasional error. His fielding isn't as bad as everyone thinks. He just makes some boneheaded plays that they like to show on sportscenter.

Manny also has MAJOR baserunning issues as well... I remember even back in his Cleveland days, he'd get picked off constantly, get caught in run-downs he shouldn't have even gotten into, just crazy stuff, some stuff they teach you in Pinto League! He HAS gotten better, but it's still there..

I said I'd "take Beltran over Manny"... never said "Beltran was a better player than Manny".. there's a difference.. In MY mind, the offensive upgrade Manny is is not as great as the amount of a defensive upgrade Beltran is, then factor in Beltran runs bases better, and is younger.

[Misfit]

Re: Surpising stat about Carlos Beltran

Manny's baserunning has improved almost infinitly. I can't recall him ever being picked off in a Sox uniform and the only times he was ever caught stealing were failed hit and runs. I know on at least two occassions he's taken advantage of a pitcher not paying attention to him and he stole third.

[Misfit]

Re: Surpising stat about Carlos Beltran

Manny's baserunning has improved almost infinitly. I can't recall him ever being picked off in a Sox uniform and the only times he was ever caught stealing were failed hit and runs. I know on at least two occassions he's taken advantage of a pitcher not paying attention to him and he stole third.

[samjjones]

Re: Surpising stat about Carlos Beltran

Beltran is a pretty complete player, and certainly deserves mention as one of the game's best. But Boras' assertion that he is an "iconic" type of player is ridiculous. If he gets $15 million a year for 5 years, he should consider himself lucky. Sad thing is it sounds like he really wants to stay in Houston, but Boras will not let it happen.

[samjjones]

Re: Surpising stat about Carlos Beltran

Beltran is a pretty complete player, and certainly deserves mention as one of the game's best. But Boras' assertion that he is an "iconic" type of player is ridiculous. If he gets $15 million a year for 5 years, he should consider himself lucky. Sad thing is it sounds like he really wants to stay in Houston, but Boras will not let it happen.

[Birdsonbat]

Re: Surpising stat about Carlos Beltran

If Carlos stays in the NL, Jimmy Edmonds going to have stiff, STIFF competition for the Gold Glove this year.

Three gold gloves are given to outfielders, not a specific position like rf or cf. Edmonds, Jones, and Finley all won this past year, all three cf.

[Birdsonbat]

Re: Surpising stat about Carlos Beltran

If Carlos stays in the NL, Jimmy Edmonds going to have stiff, STIFF competition for the Gold Glove this year.

Three gold gloves are given to outfielders, not a specific position like rf or cf. Edmonds, Jones, and Finley all won this past year, all three cf.

[MSRoble33]

Re: Surpising stat about Carlos Beltran

Three gold gloves are given to outfielders, not a specific position like rf or cf. Edmonds, Jones, and Finley all won this past year, all three cf.

Wasn't aware, I thought they were position specific... my bad.

[MSRoble33]

Re: Surpising stat about Carlos Beltran

Three gold gloves are given to outfielders, not a specific position like rf or cf. Edmonds, Jones, and Finley all won this past year, all three cf.

Wasn't aware, I thought they were position specific... my bad.