Managerial Moves

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Maddon is only under contract through next year and the Cubs haven't given him an extension...he's taken criticism for the way he's handled the club at times, so wouldn't surprise me to see him not retained if the Cubs don't play to their potential next year.

Good point, I think a lot of that comes down to how consistent the offense will be and if the pitching staff can get it together all year long.



Blue Jays are down to their 3 candidates:

Rocco Baldelli
Joe Espada
Brandon Hyde

[Majingir]

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Good point, I think a lot of that comes down to how consistent the offense will be and if the pitching staff can get it together all year long.



Blue Jays are down to their 3 candidates:

Rocco Baldelli
Joe Espada
Brandon Hyde

Don't know anything about any of these guys as managers, but hopefully whoever they pick is good.

Maybe he's just behind the ball, but this was posted AFTER the report of the "final 3" came out:

https://twitter.com/elliottbaseball/status/1054461214330220544?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1054461214330220544&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tsn.ca%2Freport-jays-interview-clapp-for-managerial-vacancy-1.1196296

[Mabster]

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Twins hire Rocco Baldelli. Youngest manager in the majors.

[TripleCrown9]

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Blue Jays sign Charlie Montoyo.

[Speedy]

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Rays are getting poached!

[Majingir]

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Blue Jays sign Charlie Montoyo.

Let's hope Jays can be a big budget version of the Rays. Imagine a Rays team with a wallet like Rogers. If anyone knows about player development it's the rays. And Montoyo is one of the big names in charge of that in their entire history.

Cool story about him too. He mentored/translated for Vlad Sr in the Expos minor league.

[TripleCrown9]

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It's finally come to fruition

[WaitTilNextYear]

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There is a rumor going around that Joe Girardi is turning down these managerial jobs because, he is waiting for the position to open for the Cubs.

Ew, no thanks

If not Girardi, what about Damon Berryhill or Jody Davis or Hector Villanueva?

[CaseIH]

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Good luck on that Joe.

I just can't see the Cubs firing Maddon anytime soon. It'd take him resigning/retiring and even then Girardi doesn't really fit what the Cubs are all about IMO.

Yeah, I dont see that happening. I will admit, Madden makes some head scratching decisions sometimes, especially in the run up to them finally winning a World Series after all those yrs. But he did managed to win a World Series, and he is a good manager.

So I think its ridiculous that there were some Cubs fans, saying he should be fired after they loss the Wild Card game. Talk about what have you did for me lately,lol. I hate the Cubs, so fire him by all means, maybe it will be then another 108 yrs before winning another World Series

[CaseIH]

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If not Girardi, what about Damon Berryhill or Jody Davis or Hector Villanueva?

I think Jody Davis is actually in the Reds organization. Even though I have always hated the Cubs, they had some players thru the yrs that I always liked. Jody Davis is one of their former players I always liked. He would probably make a good manager as well.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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So I think its ridiculous that there were some Cubs fans, saying he should be fired after they loss the Wild Card game. Talk about what have you did for me lately,lol.

I disagree. While Joe Maddon will go down in history as a Cub great and a good manager, these Cubs teams would've been really good had they been managed by Charlie Brown. The damning thing for Maddon is the last 3 years of results have gone like this:

(2016) World Series win with clearly the best team in baseball--the opening of a long "window"
(2017) An embarrassing NLCS loss to the Dodgers, in what felt like a sweep
(2018) Not even winning the division and getting eliminated without getting to the Divisional Round

In other words, the results have gotten worse despite basically having the same [young and improving] players plus some pricey free agent acquisitions. Maddon certainly has earned the right to finish his original contract, unless the Cubs have a horrific start to 2019 somehow. But, I think it'll be a bit of an audition in 2019 for him if he even deigns to stay in Chicago. With what Theo Epstein has built in Chicago and with what Ricketts has spent in Chicago, the coaching staff needs to get a lot more out of the roster.

I think Jody Davis is actually in the Reds organization. Even though I have always hated the Cubs, they had some players thru the yrs that I always liked. Jody Davis is one of their former players I always liked. He would probably make a good manager as well.

My suggestion was kind of a joke just listing off random former Cubs catchers. I believe that both Jody Davis and Damon Berryhill are managing in the minors.

[SPTO]

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Yeesh, I come home from the hospital to see the Jays hired the least exciting name on their list and to add insult to injury the Jays PR people picked the goofiest pic of Montoyo you could find:

Spoiler

Good grief....Hopefully some of that Rays voodoo will rub off on the Jays at least.

[Jr.]

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If not Girardi, what about Damon Berryhill or Jody Davis or Hector Villanueva?

Give me Glenalan Hill. Bring the bombs back to Wrigley

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[WaitTilNextYear]

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Give me Glenalan Hill. Bring the bombs back to Wrigley

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Bring back Glenallen Hill as assistant trainer responsible for forearm conditioning.

[CaseIH]

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I disagree. While Joe Maddon will go down in history as a Cub great and a good manager, these Cubs teams would've been really good had they been managed by Charlie Brown. The damning thing for Maddon is the last 3 years of results have gone like this:

(2016) World Series win with clearly the best team in baseball--the opening of a long "window"
(2017) An embarrassing NLCS loss to the Dodgers, in what felt like a sweep
(2018) Not even winning the division and getting eliminated without getting to the Divisional Round

In other words, the results have gotten worse despite basically having the same [young and improving] players plus some pricey free agent acquisitions. Maddon certainly has earned the right to finish his original contract, unless the Cubs have a horrific start to 2019 somehow. But, I think it'll be a bit of an audition in 2019 for him if he even deigns to stay in Chicago. With what Theo Epstein has built in Chicago and with what Ricketts has spent in Chicago, the coaching staff needs to get a lot more out of the roster.



My suggestion was kind of a joke just listing off random former Cubs catchers. I believe that both Jody Davis and Damon Berryhill are managing in the minors.

I do agree, I think while Madden is a good manager, I dont really consider him a all time great manager. IMO they won in 16, due to their talent overcoming some poor in game decisions by Madden.


I just think the Cubs just had some bad luck this yr due to injuries, and guys not performing up to their abilities. In 17, they just ran into a hot team, in the Dodgers. And I think in 17 there was just that World Series hangover, and it hit the Cubs harder than most, due to it being 108 yrs since they had actually won it all. Plus the Dodgers were on a roll last yr.


I know when you have as much young talent, and a team wins it all, that they expect a few yr run, ending with atleast getting to the World Series, even if not winning it all every yr. However, thats hard to do, especially now days, with the added Wild Cards being added. Because its not longer about the 2 best teams in each league getting to the World Series, like yrs ago, when you had 2 divisions in each league, and the top 2 teams in each league played for the pennant, and with the winner in each league getting to the World Series.

Now days its about getting hot at the right time, baseball unlike other sports, is hard to predict from yr to yr. In football you usually know who will play for the SB, and its even worse in the NBA, usually, as you can almost guarantee which 2 teams will meet in the finals.

Its hard to get to the WS let alone win it all, especially now days, because its about who get hot at the right time, and not always the best 2 teams meet in the WS every yr.


Just my opinion, it just seems, like Cub fans are being awful quick, to run the manager that help win after a 108 yrs drought, and putting a end to the Cubs constantly being the biggest joke in all of sports, yr in and yr out.



I will say I was shocked when the Cubs lost, I thought after getting Murphy, and Cole Hammels, that the Cubs would make it to the World Series. It just goes to show, its not about the names on the back of the jersey, in baseball, you just never know.