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  • canes21
    Hall Of Fame
    • Sep 2008
    • 22926

    #106
    Re: 7/11 - 7/21 Game Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by Jr.
    That was the whole point. Matching a ridiculous POV with another. I'm done with it. Unfortunately we're not able to block mods, so I'll just try to look past his ridiculous "takes" and Larry David-wannabe posting style.
    What is honestly ridiculous about wanting to remove where players trick officials to make incorrect calls that benefit their teams?
    “No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”


    ― Plato

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    • TheMatrix31
      RF
      • Jul 2002
      • 52920

      #107
      Re: 7/11 - 7/21 Game Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by Jr.
      That was the whole point. Matching a ridiculous POV with another. I'm done with it. Unfortunately we're not able to block mods, so I'll just try to look past his ridiculous "takes" and Larry David-wannabe posting style.

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      • Jr.
        Playgirl Coverboy
        • Feb 2003
        • 19171

        #108
        Re: 7/11 - 7/21 Game Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by canes21
        What is honestly ridiculous about wanting to remove where players trick officials to make incorrect calls that benefit their teams?
        Because it's not tricking. There's no misdirection. It's presenting a pitch.

        Ultimately, even if you disagree with it, there's absolutely no way to remove it without automated strike zones. If you also disagree with that, then you're simply complaining just to complain.

        And by "you" I'm referring to anyone in general, not you specifically.
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        • countryboy
          Growing pains
          • Sep 2003
          • 52784

          #109
          Re: 7/11 - 7/21 Game Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by canes21
          You're honestly just looking ridiculous with this. This is worse than the Phillies fans.


          Where does it rank in regards to making bait posts in an attempt to get a rise/reaction out of said Phillies’ fans?


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          • daflyboys
            Banned
            • May 2003
            • 18238

            #110
            Re: 7/11 - 7/21 Game Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by countryboy
            Where does it rank in regards to making bait posts in an attempt to get a rise/reaction out of said Phillies’ fans?


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            It can't be a bait post or devised to get a rise/reaction if you know/understand completely how it all works. Everything. Always. Everywhere.


            In regard to our regularly scheduled program, I'm gonna feel lucky if the Phils split this series with LA. The only thing I can hope for is that Kershaw was up late last night watching the Boston game and the plane ride was rocky (get it?)
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            • canes21
              Hall Of Fame
              • Sep 2008
              • 22926

              #111
              Re: 7/11 - 7/21 Game Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by Jr.
              Because it's not tricking. There's no misdirection. It's presenting a pitch.

              Ultimately, even if you disagree with it, there's absolutely no way to remove it without automated strike zones. If you also disagree with that, then you're simply complaining just to complain.

              And by "you" I'm referring to anyone in general, not you specifically.
              Framing a pitch is literally tricking the umpire into thinking the pitch was somewhere it was not. Using the word present does not change that.

              I personally want every single sport to get to a point where every single call an official makes is spot on so in the end I am against tricking officials by presenting something that was not. That doesn't mean I can't appreciate the magnificent framer Tyler Flowers is, but in the end I still want every sport to have error free officiating so when I see Matrix complaining about officials being influenced incorrectly by a player's presentation, I agree with him. When I see people mocking him because he doesn't post the same boring way everyone else does, I just get confused. The man's point is clear, he doesn't like seeing players trick officials into making incorrect calls. I figured just about anyone here would agree with that complaint, but it seems that is not the case.
              “No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”


              ― Plato

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              • Caulfield
                Hall Of Fame
                • Apr 2011
                • 10986

                #112
                Re: 7/11 - 7/21 Game Discussion Thread

                Isnt checking your swing as bad as pitch framing, if not worse? After all, if theres an appeal to a base ump, you're trying to pull one over on 2 umps. And disturbing the new pace of play, those seconds are precious.
                And on topic, if the Twins are still in first place after the Trade Deadline I'll be a converted true believer.
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                • Jr.
                  Playgirl Coverboy
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 19171

                  #113
                  Re: 7/11 - 7/21 Game Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by canes21
                  Framing a pitch is literally tricking the umpire into thinking the pitch was somewhere it was not. Using the word present does not change that.

                  I personally want every single sport to get to a point where every single call an official makes is spot on so in the end I am against tricking officials by presenting something that was not. That doesn't mean I can't appreciate the magnificent framer Tyler Flowers is, but in the end I still want every sport to have error free officiating so when I see Matrix complaining about officials being influenced incorrectly by a player's presentation, I agree with him. When I see people mocking him because he doesn't post the same boring way everyone else does, I just get confused. The man's point is clear, he doesn't like seeing players trick officials into making incorrect calls. I figured just about anyone here would agree with that complaint, but it seems that is not the case.
                  So do you want automated strike zones, or do you have some other way to remove the effects of pitch framing?

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                  • canes21
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 22926

                    #114
                    Re: 7/11 - 7/21 Game Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by Jr.
                    So do you want automated strike zones, or do you have some other way to remove the effects of pitch framing?

                    Sent from my SM-G970U using Operation Sports mobile app
                    It's not my job to think of what would be the best way to get error-free officiating. I only claim to want error-free officiating. Please don't try and do a "gotcha!" with me on the subject. I address all of you with respect and I only ask for the same in return.

                    Thank you
                    “No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”


                    ― Plato

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                    • Jr.
                      Playgirl Coverboy
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 19171

                      #115
                      Re: 7/11 - 7/21 Game Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by canes21
                      It's not my job to think of what would be the best way to get error-free officiating. I only claim to want error-free officiating. Please don't try and do a "gotcha!" with me on the subject. I address all of you with respect and I only ask for the same in return.

                      Thank you
                      I don't know what a gotcha would be. But you keep on keepin on I guess. I'll go back to my regularly scheduled Cubs posting

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                      • Caulfield
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 10986

                        #116
                        Re: 7/11 - 7/21 Game Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by canes21
                        It's not my job to think of what would be the best way to get error-free officiating. I only claim to want error-free officiating. Please don't try and do a "gotcha!" with me on the subject. I address all of you with respect and I only ask for the same in return.

                        Thank you
                        there will never be error free officiating in ANY sport, even if its done by computers and robots


                        and I sincerely say that with all due respect
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                        • Jr.
                          Playgirl Coverboy
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 19171

                          #117
                          Re: 7/11 - 7/21 Game Discussion Thread

                          One wind aided homer in the books. This could be a football looking score by the end of the game with this wind at Wrigley

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                          • canes21
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 22926

                            #118
                            Re: 7/11 - 7/21 Game Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by Caulfield
                            there will never be error free officiating in ANY sport, even if its done by computers and robots


                            and I sincerely say that with all due respect
                            I know that, but I think you understand the point I was making. I want officiating to be as good as it can possibly be.
                            “No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”


                            ― Plato

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                            • Sportsforever
                              NL MVP
                              • Mar 2005
                              • 20368

                              #119
                              7/11 - 7/21 Game Discussion Thread

                              I think the NL MVP is Bellinger’s to lose, IMO, but Freeman is doing his best to get in the conversation.


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                              • Jr.
                                Playgirl Coverboy
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 19171

                                #120
                                Re: 7/11 - 7/21 Game Discussion Thread

                                Outstanding baserunning by Rizzo. That was MLB the show level run on the wild pitch

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