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  • Kenage
    Rookie
    • Mar 2003
    • 456

    #106
    Re: The Mets: How Good Will This Team Be?

    Originally posted by Rag3vsW0rld
    The Mets better hope there's no injury bug. Maybe they'll knock the Braves off, but the last two season I've said that they've made me eat my words.
    I hope the Mets can stay healthy. They fired the whole training and medical staff from last year so maybe they get some better advise and the players actually play close to one whole season.

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    • Kenage
      Rookie
      • Mar 2003
      • 456

      #107
      Re: The Mets: How Good Will This Team Be?

      Originally posted by Rag3vsW0rld
      The Mets better hope there's no injury bug. Maybe they'll knock the Braves off, but the last two season I've said that they've made me eat my words.
      I hope the Mets can stay healthy. They fired the whole training and medical staff from last year so maybe they get some better advise and the players actually play close to one whole season.

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      • indeed
        Rookie
        • Aug 2002
        • 91

        #108
        Re: The Mets: How Good Will This Team Be?

        Piazza will be on his walk year on his contract, he should have one of his finest years which often happens to players in their final contract year. As for post season, last time the Yankees won the World Series it was against a team called the Mets...not a powerhouse team they were all they had then was solid pitching and one hell of defensive infileld. This year it "should" be solid pitching nice defense in the outfield and....speed!

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        • indeed
          Rookie
          • Aug 2002
          • 91

          #109
          Re: The Mets: How Good Will This Team Be?

          Piazza will be on his walk year on his contract, he should have one of his finest years which often happens to players in their final contract year. As for post season, last time the Yankees won the World Series it was against a team called the Mets...not a powerhouse team they were all they had then was solid pitching and one hell of defensive infileld. This year it "should" be solid pitching nice defense in the outfield and....speed!

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          • HealyMonster
            Titans Era has begun.
            • Aug 2002
            • 5992

            #110
            Re: The Mets: How Good Will This Team Be?

            Im not saying the mets will outright win the division, but they will give atlanta a run for their money, hopefully we can get off to a good start and stay even with the braves. i think if we are in 1st or second place come the trade deadline i think if floyd or piazza are not performing we will make another big deal. only time will tell. its going to be a tough task for randolph to get these players to gel and play as a team, and they also have to get into a winning attitude cause they gotta feel like winners and act like winners to be winners, reguardless of who is on the team. its going to be an interesting year in queesn, im glad ill be there to see it all unfold in person.

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            • HealyMonster
              Titans Era has begun.
              • Aug 2002
              • 5992

              #111
              Re: The Mets: How Good Will This Team Be?

              Im not saying the mets will outright win the division, but they will give atlanta a run for their money, hopefully we can get off to a good start and stay even with the braves. i think if we are in 1st or second place come the trade deadline i think if floyd or piazza are not performing we will make another big deal. only time will tell. its going to be a tough task for randolph to get these players to gel and play as a team, and they also have to get into a winning attitude cause they gotta feel like winners and act like winners to be winners, reguardless of who is on the team. its going to be an interesting year in queesn, im glad ill be there to see it all unfold in person.

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              • CMH
                Making you famous
                • Oct 2002
                • 26203

                #112
                Re: The Mets: How Good Will This Team Be?

                Adding Sosa to the team wouldn't hurt the Mets too much.

                Sosa has only one year left on his deal and no matter how much he tries, Minaya would never give him an extension that comes close to the 16 million he's making now.

                You add a player of his talent (even while he's declining) and it makes the team look good now. I think everyone can agree that Sosa really needs a change of scenery. He'll be playing in a contract year (we all know how those go for star players) and the Mets won't have to committ to him longterm.

                Honestly, if you get rid of Floyd for Sosa - the deal is a PUSH with the likelihood that Sosa has a better season than Floyd and NOT vice versa. Then you can turn around and either resign Sosa for half the money (assuming he performs and the fans fall in love with him) or spend it next off-season on a star corner outfielder (Magglio Ordonez? If he signs for only one year this offseason)
                "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                • CMH
                  Making you famous
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 26203

                  #113
                  Re: The Mets: How Good Will This Team Be?

                  Adding Sosa to the team wouldn't hurt the Mets too much.

                  Sosa has only one year left on his deal and no matter how much he tries, Minaya would never give him an extension that comes close to the 16 million he's making now.

                  You add a player of his talent (even while he's declining) and it makes the team look good now. I think everyone can agree that Sosa really needs a change of scenery. He'll be playing in a contract year (we all know how those go for star players) and the Mets won't have to committ to him longterm.

                  Honestly, if you get rid of Floyd for Sosa - the deal is a PUSH with the likelihood that Sosa has a better season than Floyd and NOT vice versa. Then you can turn around and either resign Sosa for half the money (assuming he performs and the fans fall in love with him) or spend it next off-season on a star corner outfielder (Magglio Ordonez? If he signs for only one year this offseason)
                  "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                  "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                  • NY4Life
                    MVP
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 1316

                    #114
                    Re: The Mets: How Good Will This Team Be?

                    Originally posted by YankeePride_YP
                    Adding Sosa to the team wouldn't hurt the Mets too much.

                    Sosa has only one year left on his deal and no matter how much he tries, Minaya would never give him an extension that comes close to the 16 million he's making now.

                    You add a player of his talent (even while he's declining) and it makes the team look good now. I think everyone can agree that Sosa really needs a change of scenery. He'll be playing in a contract year (we all know how those go for star players) and the Mets won't have to committ to him longterm.

                    Honestly, if you get rid of Floyd for Sosa - the deal is a PUSH with the likelihood that Sosa has a better season than Floyd and NOT vice versa. Then you can turn around and either resign Sosa for half the money (assuming he performs and the fans fall in love with him) or spend it next off-season on a star corner outfielder (Magglio Ordonez? If he signs for only one year this offseason)

                    Excellent points. Alot of MEts fans don't want Sosa. Why Not? We'd be giving up Cliff "whoops I'm Injured Again" Floyd for one of the best power hitters of this era. I don't want to hear any steroid talk because there is no proof that he was into that. He was also hurt last year/unhappy, which may have contributed to his lack of production. Get this guy some new scenery, and he can be slammin sammy again. Just think if Sosa and Piazza show true form, hitting behind Beltran...wow...

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                    • NY4Life
                      MVP
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 1316

                      #115
                      Re: The Mets: How Good Will This Team Be?

                      Originally posted by YankeePride_YP
                      Adding Sosa to the team wouldn't hurt the Mets too much.

                      Sosa has only one year left on his deal and no matter how much he tries, Minaya would never give him an extension that comes close to the 16 million he's making now.

                      You add a player of his talent (even while he's declining) and it makes the team look good now. I think everyone can agree that Sosa really needs a change of scenery. He'll be playing in a contract year (we all know how those go for star players) and the Mets won't have to committ to him longterm.

                      Honestly, if you get rid of Floyd for Sosa - the deal is a PUSH with the likelihood that Sosa has a better season than Floyd and NOT vice versa. Then you can turn around and either resign Sosa for half the money (assuming he performs and the fans fall in love with him) or spend it next off-season on a star corner outfielder (Magglio Ordonez? If he signs for only one year this offseason)

                      Excellent points. Alot of MEts fans don't want Sosa. Why Not? We'd be giving up Cliff "whoops I'm Injured Again" Floyd for one of the best power hitters of this era. I don't want to hear any steroid talk because there is no proof that he was into that. He was also hurt last year/unhappy, which may have contributed to his lack of production. Get this guy some new scenery, and he can be slammin sammy again. Just think if Sosa and Piazza show true form, hitting behind Beltran...wow...

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                      • Spectre
                        Th* ******
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 5853

                        #116
                        Re: The Mets: How Good Will This Team Be?

                        Originally posted by YankeePride_YP
                        Adding Sosa to the team wouldn't hurt the Mets too much.

                        Sosa has only one year left on his deal and no matter how much he tries, Minaya would never give him an extension that comes close to the 16 million he's making now.

                        You add a player of his talent (even while he's declining) and it makes the team look good now. I think everyone can agree that Sosa really needs a change of scenery. He'll be playing in a contract year (we all know how those go for star players) and the Mets won't have to committ to him longterm.

                        Honestly, if you get rid of Floyd for Sosa - the deal is a PUSH with the likelihood that Sosa has a better season than Floyd and NOT vice versa. Then you can turn around and either resign Sosa for half the money (assuming he performs and the fans fall in love with him) or spend it next off-season on a star corner outfielder (Magglio Ordonez? If he signs for only one year this offseason)
                        He gets an automatic one year extension if he gets traded for 18 million.

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                        • Spectre
                          Th* ******
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 5853

                          #117
                          Re: The Mets: How Good Will This Team Be?

                          Originally posted by YankeePride_YP
                          Adding Sosa to the team wouldn't hurt the Mets too much.

                          Sosa has only one year left on his deal and no matter how much he tries, Minaya would never give him an extension that comes close to the 16 million he's making now.

                          You add a player of his talent (even while he's declining) and it makes the team look good now. I think everyone can agree that Sosa really needs a change of scenery. He'll be playing in a contract year (we all know how those go for star players) and the Mets won't have to committ to him longterm.

                          Honestly, if you get rid of Floyd for Sosa - the deal is a PUSH with the likelihood that Sosa has a better season than Floyd and NOT vice versa. Then you can turn around and either resign Sosa for half the money (assuming he performs and the fans fall in love with him) or spend it next off-season on a star corner outfielder (Magglio Ordonez? If he signs for only one year this offseason)
                          He gets an automatic one year extension if he gets traded for 18 million.

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                          • Pared
                            Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 39337

                            #118
                            Re: The Mets: How Good Will This Team Be?

                            Originally posted by NY4Life
                            Excellent points. Alot of MEts fans don't want Sosa. Why Not? We'd be giving up Cliff "whoops I'm Injured Again" Floyd for one of the best power hitters of this era. I don't want to hear any steroid talk because there is no proof that he was into that. He was also hurt last year/unhappy, which may have contributed to his lack of production. Get this guy some new scenery, and he can be slammin sammy again. Just think if Sosa and Piazza show true form, hitting behind Beltran...wow...
                            So you trade one injured outfielder for another? Even if one WAS in the midst of steroid discussion? (Proven or not)

                            An absolute waste of a deal. You KNOW what you're going to get with Floyd. I'd take my chances with his injury than Sosa's. You're betting on too much chance by making this deal... You're already risking Martinez and Beltran not meeting up to standards... and you do it with Sosa? ANOTHER aging ex-star?

                            Everyone says the Mets always trade/sign for the old aging star. Now, everyone is arguing they should do it again...

                            It doesn't make any sense... they finally get younger, and now everyone wants them to pull a deal to get older.

                            I hope Minaya knows this already, and will leave Steriod Sammy where he is...
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                            • Pared
                              Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 39337

                              #119
                              Re: The Mets: How Good Will This Team Be?

                              Originally posted by NY4Life
                              Excellent points. Alot of MEts fans don't want Sosa. Why Not? We'd be giving up Cliff "whoops I'm Injured Again" Floyd for one of the best power hitters of this era. I don't want to hear any steroid talk because there is no proof that he was into that. He was also hurt last year/unhappy, which may have contributed to his lack of production. Get this guy some new scenery, and he can be slammin sammy again. Just think if Sosa and Piazza show true form, hitting behind Beltran...wow...
                              So you trade one injured outfielder for another? Even if one WAS in the midst of steroid discussion? (Proven or not)

                              An absolute waste of a deal. You KNOW what you're going to get with Floyd. I'd take my chances with his injury than Sosa's. You're betting on too much chance by making this deal... You're already risking Martinez and Beltran not meeting up to standards... and you do it with Sosa? ANOTHER aging ex-star?

                              Everyone says the Mets always trade/sign for the old aging star. Now, everyone is arguing they should do it again...

                              It doesn't make any sense... they finally get younger, and now everyone wants them to pull a deal to get older.

                              I hope Minaya knows this already, and will leave Steriod Sammy where he is...
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                              • Ckhoss29
                                MVP
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 980

                                #120
                                Re: The Mets: How Good Will This Team Be?

                                Am I the only one who doesn't understand the Mets sudden spend spend spend attitude. They traded away some their young talent and are now resorting back to what got them into the mess of 2002. This seems like deja vu. I mean that year everyone was like ooooh Mo Vaughn, ooohh Alomar. Pitching wins championships and the Mets don't have the pitching(bullpen that is) Their starters are nice but nice only takes you so far. They were doing a good job of rebuilding IMO but lately they are overpaying for players. Beltran is not a $100 mill guy. I mean is he a good player, yes, but did they over pay to get him yes they did. Read what Tim Kurkjan had to say
                                http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/column...tim&id=1960521

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