Delgado NOT going to be a Met..

[bkrich83]

Re: Delgado NOT going to be a Met..

In all do respect please don't call anything I say stupid. You should understand this is just a conversation. I do not think Wright is better at this moment. If you look at everything he has done to this point with the Mets both minor leauge and Major leauge he has more up side then Lowell. Mota has never been a closer so you can't say how he will be. Great setup guy I agree.Please don't use Alfonseca as a closer. He has bounced around a bit.
When is the last time he saved 20 games? In regards to Howard I have seen him pitch several times as I have the MLB Pass. I also get Baseball America
which covers the Minors and Majors. He has an above average fastball and a fair cutter. He has had controll problems in the past. He is an unknown major leauge talent. Who will win more then 15 games on the Marlins? I bet Pedro will win at leat 15 to 18 games. Lets see if AJ and Josh can get through a whole season. To be fair I think the Braves have the best pitching in the NL East. Also one other thing Shea is considered the worst hitters park in the NL
just imagine how many more Homeruns Wright would hit in Florida.

Sounds like you read Howards report right out of the book. Since he only pitched 30 innings last year, you must have been watching very closely.

Are you saying Pedro is a lock to start 33 games? Considering he's done it once in the last 6 years, Pedro lasting a whole year is hardly a lock. Nor is he the same pitcher he was...

Of course Wright has more upside than Lowell. Lowell is 30 years old. But I will take actual production over upside any day.

As far as Shea being considered the worst hitters park in the league, Florida wouldn't be far behind. Deep dimensions to the power alleys, being at sea level, and lots of humidity in the air, mean it's extremely tough to yank the ball out of that park.

Who's the Mets Closer? Braden Looper? Yeah closers who give up more hits than innings pitched, don't strike many people out, and give up almost a .270 BAA are hardly something to brag about.

I understand your a Mets homer, but come on. Back to reality.

[bkrich83]

Re: Delgado NOT going to be a Met..

In all do respect please don't call anything I say stupid. You should understand this is just a conversation. I do not think Wright is better at this moment. If you look at everything he has done to this point with the Mets both minor leauge and Major leauge he has more up side then Lowell. Mota has never been a closer so you can't say how he will be. Great setup guy I agree.Please don't use Alfonseca as a closer. He has bounced around a bit.
When is the last time he saved 20 games? In regards to Howard I have seen him pitch several times as I have the MLB Pass. I also get Baseball America
which covers the Minors and Majors. He has an above average fastball and a fair cutter. He has had controll problems in the past. He is an unknown major leauge talent. Who will win more then 15 games on the Marlins? I bet Pedro will win at leat 15 to 18 games. Lets see if AJ and Josh can get through a whole season. To be fair I think the Braves have the best pitching in the NL East. Also one other thing Shea is considered the worst hitters park in the NL
just imagine how many more Homeruns Wright would hit in Florida.

Sounds like you read Howards report right out of the book. Since he only pitched 30 innings last year, you must have been watching very closely.

Are you saying Pedro is a lock to start 33 games? Considering he's done it once in the last 6 years, Pedro lasting a whole year is hardly a lock. Nor is he the same pitcher he was...

Of course Wright has more upside than Lowell. Lowell is 30 years old. But I will take actual production over upside any day.

As far as Shea being considered the worst hitters park in the league, Florida wouldn't be far behind. Deep dimensions to the power alleys, being at sea level, and lots of humidity in the air, mean it's extremely tough to yank the ball out of that park.

Who's the Mets Closer? Braden Looper? Yeah closers who give up more hits than innings pitched, don't strike many people out, and give up almost a .270 BAA are hardly something to brag about.

I understand your a Mets homer, but come on. Back to reality.

[knicks69]

Re: Delgado NOT going to be a Met..

Yea imagine:

Dimensions

Dolphins Stadium
LF= 330
Power Alley= 385
CF= 434
RF= 345

Shea
LF= 338
Power Alley= 378
CF = 410
RF= 338

It seems to me the the marlins have a bigger park. Also they have the teal monster in LF that is 29 ft high i think.

Have You ever been to Shea? I have been to both. It is not the numbers that
hold balls back it is the winds. The winds Swrill like crazy. That is why so many player hate Shea to hit in.

[knicks69]

Re: Delgado NOT going to be a Met..

Yea imagine:

Dimensions

Dolphins Stadium
LF= 330
Power Alley= 385
CF= 434
RF= 345

Shea
LF= 338
Power Alley= 378
CF = 410
RF= 338

It seems to me the the marlins have a bigger park. Also they have the teal monster in LF that is 29 ft high i think.

Have You ever been to Shea? I have been to both. It is not the numbers that
hold balls back it is the winds. The winds Swrill like crazy. That is why so many player hate Shea to hit in.

[ultimatewrstlr51]

Re: Delgado NOT going to be a Met..

if the marlins get delgado, it will be one tough race in the NL East. i think even currently they are the best division in baseball

[ultimatewrstlr51]

Re: Delgado NOT going to be a Met..

if the marlins get delgado, it will be one tough race in the NL East. i think even currently they are the best division in baseball

[knicks69]

Re: Delgado NOT going to be a Met..

Sounds like you read Howards report right out of the book. Since he only pitched 30 innings last year, you must have been watching very closely.

Are you saying Pedro is a lock to start 33 games? Considering he's done it once in the last 6 years, Pedro lasting a whole year is hardly a lock. Nor is he the same pitcher he was...

Of course Wright has more upside than Lowell. Lowell is 30 years old. But I will take actual production over upside any day.

As far as Shea being considered the worst hitters park in the league, Florida wouldn't be far behind. Deep dimensions to the power alleys, being at sea level, and lots of humidity in the air, mean it's extremely tough to yank the ball out of that park.

Who's the Mets Closer? Braden Looper? Yeah closers who give up more hits than innings pitched, don't strike many people out, and give up almost a .270 BAA are hardly something to brag about.

I understand your a Mets homer, but come on. Back to reality.

I never looked at any book o study Howard He pitched mostly late in the season. In regards to Pedro you are saying to me there is a Marlin pitcher better then him. Even if he is not the Pedro of 5 years ago I will take him today over any Marlin pitcher. I think so would the Marlins. He had an off year and still was what second in the AL in strike outs and won 16 game.
Never said Looper was a top 5 closer those are your implications. He did have 29 Saves and an ERA under 3. Also I don't hink he blew to many games.
Shea is the worst hitters park in Baseball. In Spors Weekly last year they did a poll of MLB players on different subjects. Guess which Park all hitters hated to play in? Shea Stadium! It has nothing to do with fences it is the winds. They hold balls in the park. Have you even been to a game in New York?
i doubt it or you would have known that. You know what is sad you are defending a team you don't even root for. Defend your own teams. At least the Mets have been in 4 World Series. We one two and lost two. Angles one Series since what 1961 0r 60 ? Oh yeah the Padres Never one one. Now I am only kidding about your teams. Belive it or not I am good friends with Jim Fregosi. I met him years ago when The Halos trained in Palm Springs. He is a great guy. He wore number 11 which I wore playing baseball right through college. We will never agree, you think the Marlins are better I think the Mets are better. We will see next year

[knicks69]

Re: Delgado NOT going to be a Met..

Sounds like you read Howards report right out of the book. Since he only pitched 30 innings last year, you must have been watching very closely.

Are you saying Pedro is a lock to start 33 games? Considering he's done it once in the last 6 years, Pedro lasting a whole year is hardly a lock. Nor is he the same pitcher he was...

Of course Wright has more upside than Lowell. Lowell is 30 years old. But I will take actual production over upside any day.

As far as Shea being considered the worst hitters park in the league, Florida wouldn't be far behind. Deep dimensions to the power alleys, being at sea level, and lots of humidity in the air, mean it's extremely tough to yank the ball out of that park.

Who's the Mets Closer? Braden Looper? Yeah closers who give up more hits than innings pitched, don't strike many people out, and give up almost a .270 BAA are hardly something to brag about.

I understand your a Mets homer, but come on. Back to reality.

I never looked at any book o study Howard He pitched mostly late in the season. In regards to Pedro you are saying to me there is a Marlin pitcher better then him. Even if he is not the Pedro of 5 years ago I will take him today over any Marlin pitcher. I think so would the Marlins. He had an off year and still was what second in the AL in strike outs and won 16 game.
Never said Looper was a top 5 closer those are your implications. He did have 29 Saves and an ERA under 3. Also I don't hink he blew to many games.
Shea is the worst hitters park in Baseball. In Spors Weekly last year they did a poll of MLB players on different subjects. Guess which Park all hitters hated to play in? Shea Stadium! It has nothing to do with fences it is the winds. They hold balls in the park. Have you even been to a game in New York?
i doubt it or you would have known that. You know what is sad you are defending a team you don't even root for. Defend your own teams. At least the Mets have been in 4 World Series. We one two and lost two. Angles one Series since what 1961 0r 60 ? Oh yeah the Padres Never one one. Now I am only kidding about your teams. Belive it or not I am good friends with Jim Fregosi. I met him years ago when The Halos trained in Palm Springs. He is a great guy. He wore number 11 which I wore playing baseball right through college. We will never agree, you think the Marlins are better I think the Mets are better. We will see next year

[True Talent]

Re: Delgado NOT going to be a Met..

The Miami Herald reports the Marlins have offered their final offer of 4 years $50 mil., the N.Y. Post reports the Mets have offered 4 years $51 mil. as their final offer, and the N.Y. Times reports the Orioles have around the same 4 year $51 mil. offer.

All things being equal with money, I don't see a reason he wouldn't choose the Orioles in this case. He'll play in the same division he's familiar with, he won't have to switch leagues, and his power numbers should go up playing 81 games in Camden Yards.

I'd just like to see the O's up the offer just a bit to get the deal done. That would be a nice start to my birthday when I wake up today.

[True Talent]

Re: Delgado NOT going to be a Met..

The Miami Herald reports the Marlins have offered their final offer of 4 years $50 mil., the N.Y. Post reports the Mets have offered 4 years $51 mil. as their final offer, and the N.Y. Times reports the Orioles have around the same 4 year $51 mil. offer.

All things being equal with money, I don't see a reason he wouldn't choose the Orioles in this case. He'll play in the same division he's familiar with, he won't have to switch leagues, and his power numbers should go up playing 81 games in Camden Yards.

I'd just like to see the O's up the offer just a bit to get the deal done. That would be a nice start to my birthday when I wake up today.

[BunnyHardaway]

Re: Delgado NOT going to be a Met..

Hopefully he will see that the Orioles are the better fit number wise. Camden is MUCH smaller than Shea or Dolphins Stadium. I still have a feeling he will sign with the O's.

[BunnyHardaway]

Re: Delgado NOT going to be a Met..

Hopefully he will see that the Orioles are the better fit number wise. Camden is MUCH smaller than Shea or Dolphins Stadium. I still have a feeling he will sign with the O's.

[SPTO]

Re: Delgado NOT going to be a Met..

The Miami Herald reports the Marlins have offered their final offer of 4 years $50 mil., the N.Y. Post reports the Mets have offered 4 years $51 mil. as their final offer, and the N.Y. Times reports the Orioles have around the same 4 year $51 mil. offer.

All things being equal with money, I don't see a reason he wouldn't choose the Orioles in this case. He'll play in the same division he's familiar with, he won't have to switch leagues, and his power numbers should go up playing 81 games in Camden Yards.

I'd just like to see the O's up the offer just a bit to get the deal done. That would be a nice start to my birthday when I wake up today.

Having seen this I will now say that Delgado will go to Miami. I think that one of the things that will be a big factor in him signing to any club is the makeup of the city. He loved the multiculturalism of Toronto. Miami isn't as diverse as NY but there's a lot to like about the area in terms of media prescence, climate and the makeup of the city.

[SPTO]

Re: Delgado NOT going to be a Met..

The Miami Herald reports the Marlins have offered their final offer of 4 years $50 mil., the N.Y. Post reports the Mets have offered 4 years $51 mil. as their final offer, and the N.Y. Times reports the Orioles have around the same 4 year $51 mil. offer.

All things being equal with money, I don't see a reason he wouldn't choose the Orioles in this case. He'll play in the same division he's familiar with, he won't have to switch leagues, and his power numbers should go up playing 81 games in Camden Yards.

I'd just like to see the O's up the offer just a bit to get the deal done. That would be a nice start to my birthday when I wake up today.

Having seen this I will now say that Delgado will go to Miami. I think that one of the things that will be a big factor in him signing to any club is the makeup of the city. He loved the multiculturalism of Toronto. Miami isn't as diverse as NY but there's a lot to like about the area in terms of media prescence, climate and the makeup of the city.

[knicks69]

Re: Delgado NOT going to be a Met..

Having seen this I will now say that Delgado will go to Miami. I think that one of the things that will be a big factor in him signing to any club is the makeup of the city. He loved the multiculturalism of Toronto. Miami isn't as diverse as NY but there's a lot to like about the area in terms of media prescence, climate and the makeup of the city.

I am a huge Mets fan and as of a couple of days agao I really wanted him. I also don't think he will sign with the Mets. In fact I hope he does not. I am so sick of his agent and him. they have acted so unprofessional in these negotiations I don't care any more. If the money is all the same why would he not go to the Mets? Maybe he is no a big market player. Baltimore is not wining
anything in the near future. he will be basicly be replacing A Blue Jays type of team. At least the Marlins are fairly good. I still feel if you are abig time player and the money is the same you can make so much more in endorsements playing in New York. Oh well there is always Travis Lee