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  • DamnYanks2
    Hall Of Fame
    • Jun 2007
    • 20794

    #211
    Re: 2020 ALDS: New York Yankees vs Tampa Bay Rays

    Originally posted by DieHardYankee26
    We only had 3 hits, they had the same number and more men LOB. Both teams were trash with RISP because the pitchers are good. It’s baseball, **** happens. There’s no conclusions to be drawn from this to me. We just lost.
    We always lose man. The Rays aren't battle tested like the Yankees hitters. Look at the big games these guys have been in.. Yankees should be taking Tampa to school and ready for revenge against Houston.

    That's what the great ones do. All that **** talking about Houston. And the Yankees can't even make it there? It's absolutely embarrassing.

    It's embarrassing the Yankees can't even make it to the WS. Time is ticking with this group and it's about up.



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    • DieHardYankee26
      BING BONG
      • Feb 2008
      • 10178

      #212
      Re: 2020 ALDS: New York Yankees vs Tampa Bay Rays

      I don’t put any stock in postseason experience or clutchness or playoff Tanaka or any of that **** so it’s whatever to me. The game doesn’t change in October, especially in a season where you spent the entire time playing the team you end up facing. Luckily we made it through the mid 2000s, none of this is new. I’ve been saying the clock was ticking since the season before Dellin got hurt and I realized they were gonna have to make choices on who could stay and go.

      An off-season of “they focus too much on analytics” after losing to the Rays will be fun.
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      • TripleCrown9
        Keep the Faith
        • May 2010
        • 23703

        #213
        Re: 2020 ALDS: New York Yankees vs Tampa Bay Rays

        Originally posted by DieHardYankee26
        I don’t put any stock in postseason experience or clutchness or playoff Tanaka or any of that **** so it’s whatever to me. The game doesn’t change in October, especially in a season where you spent the entire time playing the team you end up facing. Luckily we made it through the mid 2000s, none of this is new. I’ve been saying the clock was ticking since the season before Dellin got hurt and I realized they were gonna have to make choices on who could stay and go.

        An off-season of “they focus too much on analytics” after losing to the Rays will be fun.
        Don't forget y'all also made it through the entire decade of the 2010s.
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        • DieHardYankee26
          BING BONG
          • Feb 2008
          • 10178

          #214
          Re: 2020 ALDS: New York Yankees vs Tampa Bay Rays

          The 2010s were nothing like the mid 2000s, entirely different beast, it’s not just about not winning. Go talk to a Red Sox fan and let us talk about our business lol.
          Originally posted by G Perico
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          I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
          In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
          The clique just a gang of bosses that linked up

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          • DamnYanks2
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jun 2007
            • 20794

            #215
            Re: 2020 ALDS: New York Yankees vs Tampa Bay Rays

            Don't even get me started with that nonsense Boone and Cash pulled with Happ. Who knows what might have been if they let it play out instead of trying to copy the Rays.

            Whatever I don't care what they do with Boone. I'll give this team one more full year. But I'm livid right now.



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            • DamnYanks2
              Hall Of Fame
              • Jun 2007
              • 20794

              #216
              Re: 2020 ALDS: New York Yankees vs Tampa Bay Rays

              Originally posted by WaddupCouzin
              Ummm, We've been in the playoffs as well, don't get it twisted. Battle Tested? When's the last time the Yankees have been to the WS? right one year after us (2008/2009)

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              Yea can you finish the job against Houston please. Dear God don't let them advance. If they win the WS. It really would be the worst year of all time.

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              • DieHardYankee26
                BING BONG
                • Feb 2008
                • 10178

                #217
                Re: 2020 ALDS: New York Yankees vs Tampa Bay Rays

                Originally posted by WaddupCouzin
                It's called pitching sir, once you get past Cole, Who you got?

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                Maybe read the context of the conversation going on before inserting yourself.
                Originally posted by G Perico
                If I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
                I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
                In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
                The clique just a gang of bosses that linked up

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                • DamnYanks2
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 20794

                  #218
                  Re: 2020 ALDS: New York Yankees vs Tampa Bay Rays

                  Originally posted by WaddupCouzin
                  It's called pitching sir, once you get past Cole, Who you got?

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                  Obviously you haven't seen J.A Happ. He's an enigma.

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                  • DamnYanks2
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 20794

                    #219
                    Re: 2020 ALDS: New York Yankees vs Tampa Bay Rays

                    Originally posted by WaddupCouzin
                    Be it that we're in the same division, I see the Yankee pitchers usually 19x per year, Tanaka has usually been our cooler, so when we tagged him, I knew we would be ok. I'm thinking Cole is Cole, once you get past Tanaka, who do you have? That's why I made my earlier statement about your pitchers. Everyone and their mom knows, Playoff Baseball is about Pitching, not Offense.

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                    Well, having a healthy Luis Severino and Paxton would have certainly helped. But that wasn't on the table. No excuses, that's baseball. But the Yankees brass has tried to build a nice rotation.

                    Yea, it's about pitching. But it's also about timely hitting. Yankees pitching combined for 2 ERs tonight. That should have been good enough. I'll give the Rays pitching credit sure. But a great team grinds it out and gets those timely hits. If the Yankees focused on getting 2 out singles with RISP as much as they did Launch angle. They might have a WS ring. And they were trash with Risp all year albeit in a limited sample size.

                    Twins hit alot of homers too. Alot of good its done them.





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                    • DieHardYankee26
                      BING BONG
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 10178

                      #220
                      Re: 2020 ALDS: New York Yankees vs Tampa Bay Rays

                      Originally posted by WaddupCouzin
                      Ok, what point did I miss?

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                      That we were talking about whether or not hitting home runs can win in the playoffs, after losing to a team that beat us with 2 solo shots. It has nothing to do with pitching.
                      Originally posted by G Perico
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                      I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
                      In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
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                      • jb12780
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 10665

                        #221
                        Re: 2020 ALDS: New York Yankees vs Tampa Bay Rays

                        Originally posted by DieHardYankee26
                        That we were talking about whether or not hitting home runs can win in the playoffs, after losing to a team that beat us with 2 solo shots. It has nothing to do with pitching.

                        More about how a team worth 200 million dollars in payroll produced one run in a win or go home game.


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                        • NYJets
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                          • Jul 2002
                          • 18637

                          #222
                          Re: 2020 ALDS: New York Yankees vs Tampa Bay Rays

                          Offense got shut down last night but I think had a good postseason overall. Comes down to pitching again and having one starting pitcher that we can expect to go 6+ in the playoffs. With a bullpen that isn’t as deep as previous years. It’s partly injuries but year after year we run into a team with better pitching


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                          • Sportsforever
                            NL MVP
                            • Mar 2005
                            • 20368

                            #223
                            Re: 2020 ALDS: New York Yankees vs Tampa Bay Rays

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                            LOL...someone got to Brosseau’s wiki page.


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                            • DieHardYankee26
                              BING BONG
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 10178

                              #224
                              Re: 2020 ALDS: New York Yankees vs Tampa Bay Rays

                              Originally posted by WaddupCouzin
                              Gotcha. The point I was making as I mentioned earlier, playoff baseball is always about pitching first along with timely hits and defense. Cole is Cole, and once we solved Tanaka, I don't really think the Rays really "feared" anyone else on the Yankees staff.

                              Here's a question for you and all the other Yankee fans in this post, What do you believe you need going forward? As a Rays fan, we always comment on Sanchez, he hits home runs but is a crazy liability behind the plate. We won 2 games this year from the Yanks (regular season) cause he can't block a ball.

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                              Short answer to me is 3 more Gerrit Coles. Annoying answer is a whole lot of luck.
                              Yankees starters vs. the Ray starters (if my math is right):

                              Total: NYY = 20.1 IP, 19 H, 8 BB, 11 ER, 25 K vs. TB = 18.3 IP, 15 H, 12 BB, 11 ER, 25 K
                              The series score is 24 Yankees to 21 Rays, both teams were trash with runners in scoring position. We had 41 hits to their 33, 20 walks to their 18, were tied at 49 strikeouts a piece even with the game where we struck out 18 times. It's just not worth it for me to look at a guy running into a fastball in the bottom of the 8th in a game where each team had 3 hits and for me to want to blow anything up.



                              I want more starting pitching but I also look at the Dodgers getting to the series so many years in a row and just understand that when you build your team to compete over 162 games, you just have to hope that the right guys get hot at the right time and carry you over the 20 or so that it takes to get to the WS, we just haven't had that. If the RF lip isn't there and Judge doesn't get jammed trying to rob a home run, are we even having this conversation? If Sevy doesn't need TJ? Matrix says all the time the thing we love about this game is variance, you never know what's going to happen, and then every year people act like that's not the case and the matchups are set in stone based on paper.

                              I did see a tweet from someone about the way teams are building offenses to hit home runs, and there was a gif of a dude painting a 100 mph up and in for strike 3 on Voit, and he was basically saying maybe the reason is because you're more likely to run into one than get 3 singles strung together with guys who have this kind of stuff. I don't have the answer but I don't think there's a fundamental flaw in this team that doomed us like if we played this 5 game series 100 times we lose 100 out of 100. The home run dependency made someone compare us to the Rockets a few years ago and I've always thought of them in comparison to us. To some extent we need Harden to be better at times, we needed CP3 to not have gotten hurt at that time, we needed to not run into the Warriors dynasty...there's just a lot going on.
                              Originally posted by G Perico
                              If I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
                              I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
                              In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
                              The clique just a gang of bosses that linked up

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                              • DamnYanks2
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Jun 2007
                                • 20794

                                #225
                                Re: 2020 ALDS: New York Yankees vs Tampa Bay Rays

                                Originally posted by DieHardYankee26
                                Short answer to me is 3 more Gerrit Coles. Annoying answer is a whole lot of luck.
                                Yankees starters vs. the Ray starters (if my math is right):

                                Total: NYY = 20.1 IP, 19 H, 8 BB, 11 ER, 25 K vs. TB = 18.3 IP, 15 H, 12 BB, 11 ER, 25 K
                                The series score is 24 Yankees to 21 Rays, both teams were trash with runners in scoring position. We had 41 hits to their 33, 20 walks to their 18, were tied at 49 strikeouts a piece even with the game where we struck out 18 times. It's just not worth it for me to look at a guy running into a fastball in the bottom of the 8th in a game where each team had 3 hits and for me to want to blow anything up.



                                I want more starting pitching but I also look at the Dodgers getting to the series so many years in a row and just understand that when you build your team to compete over 162 games, you just have to hope that the right guys get hot at the right time and carry you over the 20 or so that it takes to get to the WS, we just haven't had that. If the RF lip isn't there and Judge doesn't get jammed trying to rob a home run, are we even having this conversation? If Sevy doesn't need TJ? Matrix says all the time the thing we love about this game is variance, you never know what's going to happen, and then every year people act like that's not the case and the matchups are set in stone based on paper.

                                I did see a tweet from someone about the way teams are building offenses to hit home runs, and there was a gif of a dude painting a 100 mph up and in for strike 3 on Voit, and he was basically saying maybe the reason is because you're more likely to run into one than get 3 singles strung together with guys who have this kind of stuff. I don't have the answer but I don't think there's a fundamental flaw in this team that doomed us like if we played this 5 game series 100 times we lose 100 out of 100. The home run dependency made someone compare us to the Rockets a few years ago and I've always thought of them in comparison to us. To some extent we need Harden to be better at times, we needed CP3 to not have gotten hurt at that time, we needed to not run into the Warriors dynasty...there's just a lot going on.
                                It's true you have to have some good fortune in the playoffs. But the Yankees are still too heavy on homer or nothing.We have about two guys in my estimation that have a high contact rate on this team. D.J and Gio. Everyone else is pretty much all or nothing. OK You could probably throw Gleyber in there too.

                                The lineup is fearsome and I agree it's not time to blow it up. Although I'm pretty done with Gary at this point. I love the guy but he's not the answer behind the plate and he continues to regress. I really love it if the Yankees went after J.T Realmuto. He's good at everything. He'd be a massive upgrade back there. If they could get him on a 4 year deal. Pay him whatever. It's worth it.

                                Also it pains me to say it. But I'm not giving Judge an extension. He just can't stay healthy. I'm gonna enjoy him while he's here. But you gotta stay on the field. But they better pay D.J. I will be livid if D.J goes elsewhere. He's truly our best hitter.

                                Let's pay Trevor Bauer whatever he wants. Cole and Bauer as a one two would be devastating. Although apparently those two hate each other but they need to get over that. Let Tanaka and Pax walk.

                                If the Yankees could secure Bauer and Realmuto that would be all the Yankees need. I'd be ecstatic with that for the 2021 season.











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