Best CF ever ?

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Re: Best CF ever ?

Willie, Cobb, Mantle, DiMaggio

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Willie, Cobb, Mantle, DiMaggio

[Cincinnati_Kid]

Re: Best CF ever ?

1. willie mays
2 ty cobb
3 mickey mantle
4 tris speaker
5 joltin joe dimaggio

[Cincinnati_Kid]

Re: Best CF ever ?

1. willie mays
2 ty cobb
3 mickey mantle
4 tris speaker
5 joltin joe dimaggio

[CWood2]

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For those who say Mays never produced in the playoffs, the same is said of Ted Williams. Yet, for the most part, he is still apart of every conversation when you speak of "the greatest hitter that ever lived," as he admired to be called. Baseball is not basketball, or even football, where you can have a hand in all the major plays. You only get 4 at bats a game and the ball is only hit your way a handful of times. Jordan can take every shot in the clutch, and Montana could make every throw in the 4th quarter. Mays and Teddy Ballgame could not influence the outcome of the game as much because baseball is inherently different...the ultimate team game IMO.

[CWood2]

Re: Best CF ever ?

For those who say Mays never produced in the playoffs, the same is said of Ted Williams. Yet, for the most part, he is still apart of every conversation when you speak of "the greatest hitter that ever lived," as he admired to be called. Baseball is not basketball, or even football, where you can have a hand in all the major plays. You only get 4 at bats a game and the ball is only hit your way a handful of times. Jordan can take every shot in the clutch, and Montana could make every throw in the 4th quarter. Mays and Teddy Ballgame could not influence the outcome of the game as much because baseball is inherently different...the ultimate team game IMO.

[dce1228]

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I'm surprised not to have seen his name yet, but the greatest centerfielder of all time also happens to be the greatest negro league player of all time. Oscar Charleston. He was just as good a hitter as Ruth was (looked remarkably similar too, thin legs barrel-chested) but could bunt and steal bases like Cobb, and play centerfield like Tris Speaker. Many consider him the best player ever, but I give the nod to Ruth because Ruth also could pitch.

Mays and Cobb are a close tie for second as far as centerfielders, but you also have to include DiMaggio, Mantle and Tris Speaker in the conversation. All of these men are in the top 15 players ever. Griffey Jr. would be if he could have stayed healthy.

[dce1228]

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I'm surprised not to have seen his name yet, but the greatest centerfielder of all time also happens to be the greatest negro league player of all time. Oscar Charleston. He was just as good a hitter as Ruth was (looked remarkably similar too, thin legs barrel-chested) but could bunt and steal bases like Cobb, and play centerfield like Tris Speaker. Many consider him the best player ever, but I give the nod to Ruth because Ruth also could pitch.

Mays and Cobb are a close tie for second as far as centerfielders, but you also have to include DiMaggio, Mantle and Tris Speaker in the conversation. All of these men are in the top 15 players ever. Griffey Jr. would be if he could have stayed healthy.

[blackceasar]

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I'm surprised not to have seen his name yet, but the greatest centerfielder of all time also happens to be the greatest negro league player of all time. Oscar Charleston. He was just as good a hitter as Ruth was (looked remarkably similar too, thin legs barrel-chested) but could bunt and steal bases like Cobb, and play centerfield like Tris Speaker. Many consider him the best player ever, but I give the nod to Ruth because Ruth also could pitch.

Mays and Cobb are a close tie for second as far as centerfielders, but you also have to include DiMaggio, Mantle and Tris Speaker in the conversation. All of these men are in the top 15 players ever. Griffey Jr. would be if he could have stayed healthy.

Yeah if you threw the players from the Negro League into the mix, there are probably alot of players and pitchers in the MLB who would drop down a few nothces on the "greatest" list. Babe Ruth would jsut be someone fans talked about and not someone who some fans would always assume he's the best ever just because other people said it too.

[blackceasar]

Re: Best CF ever ?

I'm surprised not to have seen his name yet, but the greatest centerfielder of all time also happens to be the greatest negro league player of all time. Oscar Charleston. He was just as good a hitter as Ruth was (looked remarkably similar too, thin legs barrel-chested) but could bunt and steal bases like Cobb, and play centerfield like Tris Speaker. Many consider him the best player ever, but I give the nod to Ruth because Ruth also could pitch.

Mays and Cobb are a close tie for second as far as centerfielders, but you also have to include DiMaggio, Mantle and Tris Speaker in the conversation. All of these men are in the top 15 players ever. Griffey Jr. would be if he could have stayed healthy.

Yeah if you threw the players from the Negro League into the mix, there are probably alot of players and pitchers in the MLB who would drop down a few nothces on the "greatest" list. Babe Ruth would jsut be someone fans talked about and not someone who some fans would always assume he's the best ever just because other people said it too.

[Mr. Bee]

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I'm surprised not to have seen his name yet, but the greatest centerfielder of all time also happens to be the greatest negro league player of all time. Oscar Charleston.

Unfortunately the argument over the negro leagues swings both ways. Correct that the stats prior to full integration of the NL and AL have to be questioned somewhat because only whites were allowed to play - but so do the stats of the Negro Leaguers who didnt have to face the Christy Matthewsons of the game.

Ruth or Gibson, Paige or Johnson, Cobb or Bell. We'll never know, but its interesting to think about, as long as you give credence to the idea that the door swings both ways, and both leagues were watered down by segregation.

[Mr. Bee]

Re: Best CF ever ?

I'm surprised not to have seen his name yet, but the greatest centerfielder of all time also happens to be the greatest negro league player of all time. Oscar Charleston.

Unfortunately the argument over the negro leagues swings both ways. Correct that the stats prior to full integration of the NL and AL have to be questioned somewhat because only whites were allowed to play - but so do the stats of the Negro Leaguers who didnt have to face the Christy Matthewsons of the game.

Ruth or Gibson, Paige or Johnson, Cobb or Bell. We'll never know, but its interesting to think about, as long as you give credence to the idea that the door swings both ways, and both leagues were watered down by segregation.

[Angel_Fan]

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The say hey kid Willie Mays.

[Angel_Fan]

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The say hey kid Willie Mays.

[Chewingthehardfacts]

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Willie Mays