Randolph shouldn't take any heat for that loss. Thats all on Wagner. I don't care if its a 4 run lead or a 1 run lead he's paid to shut the door and he didn't do it. If Randolph could be blamed for anything it would staying with Wagner one batter too long. And Reyes should have gone home with that ground ball (or infield should have been in) as its nearly impossible to double-up Damon.
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Randolph shouldn't take any heat for that loss. Thats all on Wagner. I don't care if its a 4 run lead or a 1 run lead he's paid to shut the door and he didn't do it. If Randolph could be blamed for anything it would staying with Wagner one batter too long. And Reyes should have gone home with that ground ball (or infield should have been in) as its nearly impossible to double-up Damon. -
Re: This 'Made Up' Randolph/Wagner Issue @ Misfit
Originally posted by MisfitRandolph shouldn't take any heat for that loss. Thats all on Wagner. I don't care if its a 4 run lead or a 1 run lead he's paid to shut the door and he didn't do it.
Originally posted by MisfitIf Randolph could be blamed for anything it would staying with Wagner one batter too long.
Originally posted by MisfitAnd Reyes should have gone home with that ground ball (or infield should have been in) as its nearly impossible to double-up Damon.
Nice post!For 2017...
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Originally posted by Rod_Carew29Certainly YOU'VE got to be kidding? What do you mean Randolph uses him too much? Prior to this series vs. The Yanks, he hardly pitched at all in the 7 days prior.
Originally posted by Rod_Carew29It is unbelieveable how Randolph is taking wayyyyyyyyyy too much heat for using Wagner in a +4 run game. Wagenr threw thirteen...13...pitches on Friday night. What's that? Nothing!
Originally posted by Rod_Carew29You cannot win with some Mets fans. If Randolph would have brought someone else in the start the 9th, or would have kept Sanchez in...no one would have said a word...and rightfully so. H-o-w-e-v-e-r, had one of those options did not work out, some of the SAME so-called Mets fans would have whined and said, "What's he (Randolph) doing? Even though we're up by 4, we gotta put the best in there against the best (Yankees)" Simple....unbelieveable.
Originally posted by Rod_Carew29It's not the first time that any manager...from Torre to Buddy Bell...has used thier closer in a non-save situation. And it won't be the last time. Had Wagner got the job done, no one...not you, some folks on this board, some of those idiot hosts on the 'FAN, the so-called armchair quarterbacks, second guessers, the legions of idiotic callers...no one...would have said a damn thing.
Originally posted by Rod_Carew29And one more thing, believe your azz had yesterday's game been with the Yanks up by 4 going to the bottom of the 9th, Torre was not gonna f*ck around....you better understand that Rivera would have been in there...ESPECIALLY since the Yanks themselves have NOT been playing lights out baseball.
Originally posted by Rod_Carew29The Mets are STILL in first place last time I checked...I guess some of the so-called Mets fans want Art Howe back also, huh? Don't laugh, I've heard a few knuckleheads offer up that crazed scenario.
You'll be right there calling the Fan with those other knuckleheads you cry about. No one is saying Wagner shouldn't have got the job done. 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Re: the Phony 'Wagner/Randolph' Issue @ Pared
Of course they were in a losing stretch....no shyt...tell me something I don't know...that further justifies what I said...he was NOT being used. Doesnt matter why, FACT is he was not...
And in case you've been sleeping....I didn't throw out 'numbers'...it is what it is...the only thing spinning is your head....clearly, you're one of those so-called Mets fans that gets his drawers soooooo tight over ONE game.
And you REALLY think, "..this decision causes us first place?" You're out of your mind. Please...enough of the madness...how old are you? 18? I'd like to think you know better than that. But maybe you don't. Last time I checked there were well over 100 games left....I think you need to be more worried about Atlanta and Philly than the Yankees.
Lastly, don't hate. and don't get mad. I use the Torre situation because it's real. You know it, so I pay you no mind. But one thing is clear, for a so-called Mrts fan, you sure sound like one of those 'doom and gloom' Mets fans. Acting like you've never seen any Mets manager user their closer in a non-save situation....stop it already......
Matter off fact, now that I think about it, I DID hear you on the 'FAN....LMAOOOOOOOOO
Originally posted by ParedAnd why do you think this is? Maybe because they were losing...? Or the wins were by a large margin? Don't throw out numbers to TRY and prove your point. You're just spinning the truth.
It doesn't matter the amount of pitches he threw. It wasn't the right situation. Hindsight, albeit easy to say, proves that point.
Oh please man... again, more "spin" on your part. I already gave the scenario in which you use Wagner.
And your point with this is? I don't care about anyone except the Mets here. That's all that matters. Talk about other teams and coaches all you want. I'll stick with the Mets.
Some fascination with Torre, huh? While you may play the "let's compare ourselves with the Yankees game," some of us don't. Which leads to...
Right. They ARE in first place. So they have some room for error. What are you going to be saying when this decision causes us first place?
You'll be right there calling the Fan with those other knuckleheads you cry about. No one is saying Wagner shouldn't have got the job done. Re-read everything again.For 2017...
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Re: the Phony 'Wagner/Randolph' Issue @ Pared
Originally posted by Rod_Carew29Of course they were in a losing stretch....no shyt...tell me something I don't know...that further justifies what I said...he was NOT being used. Doesnt matter why, FACT is he was not...
And in case you've been sleeping....I didn't throw out 'numbers'...it is what it is...the only thing spinning is your head....clearly, you're one of those so-called Mets fans that gets his drawers soooooo tight over ONE game.
Originally posted by Rod_Carew29And you REALLY think, "..this decision causes us first place?" You're out of your mind. Please...enough of the madness...how old are you? 18? I'd like to think you know better than that. But maybe you don't. Last time I checked there were well over 100 games left....I think you need to be more worried about Atlanta and Philly than the Yankees.
Originally posted by Rod_Carew29Lastly, don't hate. and don't get mad. I use the Torre situation because it's real. You know it, so I pay you no mind. But one thing is clear, for a so-called Mrts fan, you sure sound like one of those 'doom and gloom' Mets fans. Acting like you've never seen any Mets manager user their closer in a non-save situation....stop it already......
Matter off fact, now that I think about it, I DID hear you on the 'FAN....LMAOOOOOOOOO
For someone who is going to question another's age, you shouldn't write like you're 12.
Either way, with this, I'm done. No need for you to get either of us banned. 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Re: the Phony 'Wagner/Randolph' Issue @ Pared
I selectively ignore SOME of what you write because it makes no sense...so why respond?
You're the one who typed that the decision will cost 'us' first place.....don't back away from it now.....you mentioned that....
I'm 48 to you...blowhard? lmaooooo hardly....and never a know-it-all, but I DO know the game...undetstand the game...better than many...and I'm not ashamed to say it.And I did not mince my words. Your problem is that you may be a fan, but you suffer from a severe lack of baseball reasoning. If I'm not mistaken, you were one of the guys on this board who used that oh-so-twisted logic to boo Beltran after his first at-bat on Opening day. If you were not, then I apologize.
Like I said before, you're going to see Wagner used again this season in a non-save situation...if ya can't watch it, then walk away from the TV or leave the ballpark (if you're in attendance). Surely you don't want your BP to go up.
Oh, I can listen to the FAN..it's only entertainment...But your behind has listened to then too...so don't come on here frontin' like you don't. I certianly dont agree with most of the callers...and I'm sure you don't either.
Laslty, 12? Ha! I see you're not too good with math....it's 12 TIMES 4=48 to you...got it? LMAOOOOOOOOO
I/you/we are not going to be banned. I had no problem being banned over on the MVP side...what I said at the time deserved to be said to those couple of persons. But like the saying goes, it was a case of, "good over evil". THOSE folks are nowheres to be found nowadays....And you know I could care less about them
::brushing my shoulders off::
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And you REALLY think, "..this decision causes us first place?" You're out of your mind. Please...enough of the madness...how old are you? 18? I'd like to think you know better than that. But maybe you don't. Last time I checked there were well over 100 games left....I think you need to be more worried about Atlanta and Philly than the Yankees.
Apparently you are.
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Originally Posted by Rod_Carew29
Lastly, don't hate. and don't get mad. I use the Torre situation because it's real. You know it, so I pay you no mind. But one thing is clear, for a so-called Mrts fan, you sure sound like one of those 'doom and gloom' Mets fans. Acting like you've never seen any Mets manager user their closer in a non-save situation....stop it already......
Matter off fact, now that I think about it, I DID hear you on the 'FAN....LMAOOOOOOOOO
Wow... and you're one of those 40+ blowhards who thinks they know all... no one else makes sense. Yet, you listen to the Fan. Right. Don't start talking to the radio now....
For someone who is going to question another's age, you shouldn't write like you're 12.
Originally posted by ParedNo one is getting upset over one game. Do you enjoy selective reading, or is it a sickness? Are you completely oblivious to anything other than your ramblings?
Apparently you are.
Wow... and you're one of those 40+ blowhards who thinks they know all... no one else makes sense. Yet, you listen to the Fan. Right. Don't start talking to the radio now....
For someone who is going to question another's age, you shouldn't write like you're 12.
Either way, with this, I'm done. No need for you to get either of us banned. We wouldn't want another scenario like what you experienced over at MVP...Last edited by Rod_Carew29; 05-21-2006, 03:59 PM.For 2017...
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Re: Tonight's Game: Glavine vs. Small
I hope Glavine is on top of his game...and he's got that changeup under control...cause the Yanks as we know, are a very selcetive bunch at the plate...they generally don't make a habit of chasing pitches out of the strike zone
Let's Go Mets!
Originally posted by ParedSkies are clearing up... should get the last game in today!For 2017...
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Re: the Phony 'Wagner/Randolph' Issue @ Pared
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Re: Nice Chat @ Pared
Hey bro...it was an honor to talk with you for a bit. It proves one thing....no matter how much we type, there are somew things that are simply lost in the translation. But we're cool...and most importanly, we root for the SAME team....The Mets de Nueva York...son numero uno!!!
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Vince
Originally posted by ParedNice chattin' with you Rod.For 2017...
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Re: The 2006 New York Mets...
Well we pulled one out of our arses in Game 1
The Yanks did the same in Game 2
and Game 3 was great(basically because we won!)...but the best thing about tonights win was twofold.
First Wagner got right back on it and did a nice job(granted it was the lower part of the order...but they all gotta bat, right?)
and secondly, it proves what an #!@hole Tim McCarver is.
After yesterdays little hiccup by Wagner...McCarver was spewing his typical nonsense and said it would take Wagner weeks to recover from his bad outing.
EHHHHHHHH WRONG!!!
Not even 24 hours jerky!
You were a so-so player and you are a worse announcer. Do us all a favor and retire already:wink: .
M.K.
Knight165All gave some. Some gave all. 343Comment
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Re: The 2006 New York Mets...
Originally posted by Knight165Well we pulled one out of our arses in Game 1
The Yanks did the same in Game 2
and Game 3 was great(basically because we won!)...but the best thing about tonights win was twofold.
First Wagner got right back on it and did a nice job(granted it was the lower part of the order...but they all gotta bat, right?)
and secondly, it proves what an #!@hole Tim McCarver is.
After yesterdays little hiccup by Wagner...McCarver was spewing his typical nonsense and said it would take Wagner weeks to recover from his bad outing.
EHHHHHHHH WRONG!!!
Not even 24 hours jerky!
You were a so-so player and you are a worse announcer. Do us all a favor and retire already:wink: .
M.K.
Knight165
All in all, I can't really complain about 2/3. I do feel bad for Pedro- the guy's been the best pitcher in baseball (0.84 WHIP!... Contreras is second BTW) but doesn't have the wins to show for it yet. I hope the bullpen closes out more games for him as the year progresses.
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Re: The 2006 New York Mets...
Originally posted by SkerikCheer up, Mets fans. I'm sure you'll rebound against the division-leading Cardinals and Yankees.
How about your Phils? Ohhh yes... 1-5.Comment
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