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  • Misfit
    All Star
    • Mar 2003
    • 5766

    #496
    Re: This 'Made Up' Randolph/Wagner Issue @ nyyanksfan20

    Randolph shouldn't take any heat for that loss. Thats all on Wagner. I don't care if its a 4 run lead or a 1 run lead he's paid to shut the door and he didn't do it. If Randolph could be blamed for anything it would staying with Wagner one batter too long. And Reyes should have gone home with that ground ball (or infield should have been in) as its nearly impossible to double-up Damon.

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    • Rod_Carew29
      All Star
      • Apr 2004
      • 7872

      #497
      Re: This 'Made Up' Randolph/Wagner Issue @ Misfit

      Originally posted by Misfit
      Randolph shouldn't take any heat for that loss. Thats all on Wagner. I don't care if its a 4 run lead or a 1 run lead he's paid to shut the door and he didn't do it.
      Excatly!

      Originally posted by Misfit
      If Randolph could be blamed for anything it would staying with Wagner one batter too long.
      That's fair...no argument there

      Originally posted by Misfit
      And Reyes should have gone home with that ground ball (or infield should have been in) as its nearly impossible to double-up Damon.
      You know...upon seeing that replay...Im not certain if Reyes raced to second and fired to first he would have gotten Damon. He was a nice ways from the bag. I'll tell you what...for someone who got some kind of non-displaced fracture in his foot, Damon was flying down the line...lmaoooooo

      Nice post!
      For 2017...
      Don't Call It a Comeback

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      • Pared
        Legen - WAIT FOR IT
        • Feb 2003
        • 39337

        #498
        Re: The 2006 New York Mets...

        Originally posted by Rod_Carew29
        Certainly YOU'VE got to be kidding? What do you mean Randolph uses him too much? Prior to this series vs. The Yanks, he hardly pitched at all in the 7 days prior.
        And why do you think this is? Maybe because they were losing...? Or the wins were by a large margin? Don't throw out numbers to TRY and prove your point. You're just spinning the truth.

        Originally posted by Rod_Carew29
        It is unbelieveable how Randolph is taking wayyyyyyyyyy too much heat for using Wagner in a +4 run game. Wagenr threw thirteen...13...pitches on Friday night. What's that? Nothing!
        It doesn't matter the amount of pitches he threw. It wasn't the right situation. Hindsight, albeit easy to say, proves that point.

        Originally posted by Rod_Carew29
        You cannot win with some Mets fans. If Randolph would have brought someone else in the start the 9th, or would have kept Sanchez in...no one would have said a word...and rightfully so. H-o-w-e-v-e-r, had one of those options did not work out, some of the SAME so-called Mets fans would have whined and said, "What's he (Randolph) doing? Even though we're up by 4, we gotta put the best in there against the best (Yankees)" Simple....unbelieveable.
        Oh please man... again, more "spin" on your part. I already gave the scenario in which you use Wagner.

        Originally posted by Rod_Carew29
        It's not the first time that any manager...from Torre to Buddy Bell...has used thier closer in a non-save situation. And it won't be the last time. Had Wagner got the job done, no one...not you, some folks on this board, some of those idiot hosts on the 'FAN, the so-called armchair quarterbacks, second guessers, the legions of idiotic callers...no one...would have said a damn thing.
        And your point with this is? I don't care about anyone except the Mets here. That's all that matters. Talk about other teams and coaches all you want. I'll stick with the Mets.

        Originally posted by Rod_Carew29
        And one more thing, believe your azz had yesterday's game been with the Yanks up by 4 going to the bottom of the 9th, Torre was not gonna f*ck around....you better understand that Rivera would have been in there...ESPECIALLY since the Yanks themselves have NOT been playing lights out baseball.
        Some fascination with Torre, huh? While you may play the "let's compare ourselves with the Yankees game," some of us don't. Which leads to...

        Originally posted by Rod_Carew29
        The Mets are STILL in first place last time I checked...I guess some of the so-called Mets fans want Art Howe back also, huh? Don't laugh, I've heard a few knuckleheads offer up that crazed scenario.
        Right. They ARE in first place. So they have some room for error. What are you going to be saying when this decision causes us first place?

        You'll be right there calling the Fan with those other knuckleheads you cry about. No one is saying Wagner shouldn't have got the job done. Re-read everything again.
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        • Rod_Carew29
          All Star
          • Apr 2004
          • 7872

          #499
          Re: the Phony 'Wagner/Randolph' Issue @ Pared

          Of course they were in a losing stretch....no shyt...tell me something I don't know...that further justifies what I said...he was NOT being used. Doesnt matter why, FACT is he was not...

          And in case you've been sleeping....I didn't throw out 'numbers'...it is what it is...the only thing spinning is your head....clearly, you're one of those so-called Mets fans that gets his drawers soooooo tight over ONE game.

          And you REALLY think, "..this decision causes us first place?" You're out of your mind. Please...enough of the madness...how old are you? 18? I'd like to think you know better than that. But maybe you don't. Last time I checked there were well over 100 games left....I think you need to be more worried about Atlanta and Philly than the Yankees.

          Lastly, don't hate. and don't get mad. I use the Torre situation because it's real. You know it, so I pay you no mind. But one thing is clear, for a so-called Mrts fan, you sure sound like one of those 'doom and gloom' Mets fans. Acting like you've never seen any Mets manager user their closer in a non-save situation....stop it already......

          Matter off fact, now that I think about it, I DID hear you on the 'FAN....LMAOOOOOOOOO


          Originally posted by Pared
          And why do you think this is? Maybe because they were losing...? Or the wins were by a large margin? Don't throw out numbers to TRY and prove your point. You're just spinning the truth.


          It doesn't matter the amount of pitches he threw. It wasn't the right situation. Hindsight, albeit easy to say, proves that point.


          Oh please man... again, more "spin" on your part. I already gave the scenario in which you use Wagner.


          And your point with this is? I don't care about anyone except the Mets here. That's all that matters. Talk about other teams and coaches all you want. I'll stick with the Mets.


          Some fascination with Torre, huh? While you may play the "let's compare ourselves with the Yankees game," some of us don't. Which leads to...


          Right. They ARE in first place. So they have some room for error. What are you going to be saying when this decision causes us first place?

          You'll be right there calling the Fan with those other knuckleheads you cry about. No one is saying Wagner shouldn't have got the job done. Re-read everything again.
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          • Pared
            Legen - WAIT FOR IT
            • Feb 2003
            • 39337

            #500
            Re: the Phony 'Wagner/Randolph' Issue @ Pared

            Originally posted by Rod_Carew29
            Of course they were in a losing stretch....no shyt...tell me something I don't know...that further justifies what I said...he was NOT being used. Doesnt matter why, FACT is he was not...

            And in case you've been sleeping....I didn't throw out 'numbers'...it is what it is...the only thing spinning is your head....clearly, you're one of those so-called Mets fans that gets his drawers soooooo tight over ONE game.
            No one is getting upset over one game. Do you enjoy selective reading, or is it a sickness? Are you completely oblivious to anything other than your ramblings?

            Originally posted by Rod_Carew29
            And you REALLY think, "..this decision causes us first place?" You're out of your mind. Please...enough of the madness...how old are you? 18? I'd like to think you know better than that. But maybe you don't. Last time I checked there were well over 100 games left....I think you need to be more worried about Atlanta and Philly than the Yankees.
            Apparently you are.

            Originally posted by Rod_Carew29
            Lastly, don't hate. and don't get mad. I use the Torre situation because it's real. You know it, so I pay you no mind. But one thing is clear, for a so-called Mrts fan, you sure sound like one of those 'doom and gloom' Mets fans. Acting like you've never seen any Mets manager user their closer in a non-save situation....stop it already......

            Matter off fact, now that I think about it, I DID hear you on the 'FAN....LMAOOOOOOOOO
            Wow... and you're one of those 40+ blowhards who thinks they know all... no one else makes sense. Yet, you listen to the Fan. Right. Don't start talking to the radio now....

            For someone who is going to question another's age, you shouldn't write like you're 12.

            Either way, with this, I'm done. No need for you to get either of us banned. We wouldn't want another scenario like what you experienced over at MVP...
            Last edited by Pared; 05-21-2006, 03:44 PM.
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            • Pared
              Legen - WAIT FOR IT
              • Feb 2003
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              #501
              Re: the Phony 'Wagner/Randolph' Issue @ Pared

              Skies are clearing up... should get the last game in today!
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              • Rod_Carew29
                All Star
                • Apr 2004
                • 7872

                #502
                Re: the Phony 'Wagner/Randolph' Issue @ Pared

                I selectively ignore SOME of what you write because it makes no sense...so why respond?

                You're the one who typed that the decision will cost 'us' first place.....don't back away from it now.....you mentioned that....

                I'm 48 to you...blowhard? lmaooooo hardly....and never a know-it-all, but I DO know the game...undetstand the game...better than many...and I'm not ashamed to say it.And I did not mince my words. Your problem is that you may be a fan, but you suffer from a severe lack of baseball reasoning. If I'm not mistaken, you were one of the guys on this board who used that oh-so-twisted logic to boo Beltran after his first at-bat on Opening day. If you were not, then I apologize.

                Like I said before, you're going to see Wagner used again this season in a non-save situation...if ya can't watch it, then walk away from the TV or leave the ballpark (if you're in attendance). Surely you don't want your BP to go up.

                Oh, I can listen to the FAN..it's only entertainment...But your behind has listened to then too...so don't come on here frontin' like you don't. I certianly dont agree with most of the callers...and I'm sure you don't either.

                Laslty, 12? Ha! I see you're not too good with math....it's 12 TIMES 4=48 to you...got it? LMAOOOOOOOOO

                I/you/we are not going to be banned. I had no problem being banned over on the MVP side...what I said at the time deserved to be said to those couple of persons. But like the saying goes, it was a case of, "good over evil". THOSE folks are nowheres to be found nowadays....And you know I could care less about them

                ::brushing my shoulders off::




                Quote:
                Originally Posted by Rod_Carew29
                And you REALLY think, "..this decision causes us first place?" You're out of your mind. Please...enough of the madness...how old are you? 18? I'd like to think you know better than that. But maybe you don't. Last time I checked there were well over 100 games left....I think you need to be more worried about Atlanta and Philly than the Yankees.


                Apparently you are.


                Quote:
                Originally Posted by Rod_Carew29
                Lastly, don't hate. and don't get mad. I use the Torre situation because it's real. You know it, so I pay you no mind. But one thing is clear, for a so-called Mrts fan, you sure sound like one of those 'doom and gloom' Mets fans. Acting like you've never seen any Mets manager user their closer in a non-save situation....stop it already......

                Matter off fact, now that I think about it, I DID hear you on the 'FAN....LMAOOOOOOOOO


                Wow... and you're one of those 40+ blowhards who thinks they know all... no one else makes sense. Yet, you listen to the Fan. Right. Don't start talking to the radio now....

                For someone who is going to question another's age, you shouldn't write like you're 12.


                Originally posted by Pared
                No one is getting upset over one game. Do you enjoy selective reading, or is it a sickness? Are you completely oblivious to anything other than your ramblings?


                Apparently you are.


                Wow... and you're one of those 40+ blowhards who thinks they know all... no one else makes sense. Yet, you listen to the Fan. Right. Don't start talking to the radio now....

                For someone who is going to question another's age, you shouldn't write like you're 12.

                Either way, with this, I'm done. No need for you to get either of us banned. We wouldn't want another scenario like what you experienced over at MVP...
                Last edited by Rod_Carew29; 05-21-2006, 03:59 PM.
                For 2017...
                Don't Call It a Comeback

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                • Rod_Carew29
                  All Star
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 7872

                  #503
                  Re: Tonight's Game: Glavine vs. Small

                  I hope Glavine is on top of his game...and he's got that changeup under control...cause the Yanks as we know, are a very selcetive bunch at the plate...they generally don't make a habit of chasing pitches out of the strike zone

                  Let's Go Mets!

                  Originally posted by Pared
                  Skies are clearing up... should get the last game in today!
                  For 2017...
                  Don't Call It a Comeback

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                  • Pared
                    Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 39337

                    #504
                    Re: the Phony 'Wagner/Randolph' Issue @ Pared

                    Nice chattin' with you Rod.
                    Last edited by Pared; 05-21-2006, 05:59 PM.
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                    • Spectre
                      Th* ******
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 5853

                      #505
                      Re: the Phony 'Wagner/Randolph' Issue @ Pared

                      Let's finish this game off tonight!

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                      • Pared
                        Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 39337

                        #506
                        Re: the Phony 'Wagner/Randolph' Issue @ Pared

                        That's how you use Wagner baby! Shoulda been a sweep, but I'll take the series win!
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                        • Rod_Carew29
                          All Star
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 7872

                          #507
                          Re: Nice Chat @ Pared

                          Hey bro...it was an honor to talk with you for a bit. It proves one thing....no matter how much we type, there are somew things that are simply lost in the translation. But we're cool...and most importanly, we root for the SAME team....The Mets de Nueva York...son numero uno!!!

                          paz!

                          Vince

                          Originally posted by Pared
                          Nice chattin' with you Rod.
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                          Don't Call It a Comeback

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                          • Knight165
                            *ll St*r
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 24964

                            #508
                            Re: The 2006 New York Mets...

                            Well we pulled one out of our arses in Game 1
                            The Yanks did the same in Game 2
                            and Game 3 was great(basically because we won!)...but the best thing about tonights win was twofold.
                            First Wagner got right back on it and did a nice job(granted it was the lower part of the order...but they all gotta bat, right?)
                            and secondly, it proves what an #!@hole Tim McCarver is.
                            After yesterdays little hiccup by Wagner...McCarver was spewing his typical nonsense and said it would take Wagner weeks to recover from his bad outing.
                            EHHHHHHHH WRONG!!!
                            Not even 24 hours jerky!
                            You were a so-so player and you are a worse announcer. Do us all a favor and retire already:wink: .

                            M.K.
                            Knight165
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                            • Spectre
                              Th* ******
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 5853

                              #509
                              Re: The 2006 New York Mets...

                              Originally posted by Knight165
                              Well we pulled one out of our arses in Game 1
                              The Yanks did the same in Game 2
                              and Game 3 was great(basically because we won!)...but the best thing about tonights win was twofold.
                              First Wagner got right back on it and did a nice job(granted it was the lower part of the order...but they all gotta bat, right?)
                              and secondly, it proves what an #!@hole Tim McCarver is.
                              After yesterdays little hiccup by Wagner...McCarver was spewing his typical nonsense and said it would take Wagner weeks to recover from his bad outing.
                              EHHHHHHHH WRONG!!!
                              Not even 24 hours jerky!
                              You were a so-so player and you are a worse announcer. Do us all a favor and retire already:wink: .

                              M.K.
                              Knight165
                              My hatred for McCarver is incredible- the guy is still sore at the Mets for letting him walk! Wagner will be fine.

                              All in all, I can't really complain about 2/3. I do feel bad for Pedro- the guy's been the best pitcher in baseball (0.84 WHIP!... Contreras is second BTW) but doesn't have the wins to show for it yet. I hope the bullpen closes out more games for him as the year progresses.

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                              • jLp_vAkEr0
                                MVP
                                • Sep 2002
                                • 1506

                                #510
                                Re: The 2006 New York Mets...

                                Originally posted by Skerik
                                Cheer up, Mets fans. I'm sure you'll rebound against the division-leading Cardinals and Yankees.
                                3-3 Wasn't that bad considering the competition.

                                How about your Phils? Ohhh yes... 1-5.

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