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  • P2K
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    • Aug 2006
    • 8845

    #391
    Re: 2008 New York Mets Discussion

    Yeah, I'm not a Mets fan, but you guys are still 16-14, if I remember correctly from this morning. And that's with the bad hitting. The hitting will come. With the good hitters that are on your club, they are bound to get hot by the time summer rolls around.

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    • Pared
      Legen - WAIT FOR IT
      • Feb 2003
      • 39337

      #392
      Re: 2008 New York Mets Discussion

      Good post, P2K.

      Guys, fill me in here... maybe I'm out of the loop... what was all this talk about I heard this morning about racial tension in the locker room? Apparently guys don't respect Willie because he is black??

      I must have completely misunderstood something... but they went as far as to say Felipe Alou would be a better fit for this club because of his race??

      What's going on?
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      • TarHeelMan
        Th* H*mb*rg*r P*mp
        • Jul 2002
        • 7853

        #393
        Re: 2008 New York Mets Discussion

        They're talking about it now on the midday show on WFAN; someone called in with the same rumor. I know that there were stories last year about Willie's authority being undermined by Omar and Tony Bernazard.

        I don't know what's going on, I guess we'll hear something sooner or later.

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        • nyisles16
          All Star
          • Apr 2003
          • 8317

          #394
          Re: 2008 New York Mets Discussion

          Originally posted by Pared
          Good post, P2K.

          Guys, fill me in here... maybe I'm out of the loop... what was all this talk about I heard this morning about racial tension in the locker room? Apparently guys don't respect Willie because he is black??

          I must have completely misunderstood something... but they went as far as to say Felipe Alou would be a better fit for this club because of his race??

          What's going on?
          wow.. first I heard of this one...

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          • Pared
            Legen - WAIT FOR IT
            • Feb 2003
            • 39337

            #395
            Re: 2008 New York Mets Discussion

            Originally posted by TarHeelMan
            They're talking about it now on the midday show on WFAN; someone called in with the same rumor. I know that there were stories last year about Willie's authority being undermined by Omar and Tony Bernazard.

            I don't know what's going on, I guess we'll hear something sooner or later.
            I couldn't catch it all as I was listening while I drove in this morning (radio was still on 660 from that last Mets game I heard). They mentioned that it was strictly a player-coach thing though... Nothing about Minaya...

            Might be completely different... I'm not sure. They also mentioned that the Wilpons were not happy and they felt the team was under-achieving...

            For the record... they were saying it was the Latin and White ball players not respecting him... and that he did not have a connection with the players.

            Just doesn't make sense.
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            • Rod_Carew29
              All Star
              • Apr 2004
              • 7872

              #396
              @ Pared &amp; Tarheelman

              MOST of this nonsense about Latino cliques, racial division and the like in the Mets locker room is the result of like most things regarding the Mets---one host saying something irresponsible--and like lambs being led to slaughter...many callers...who have no good sense...repeat it over and over and over again as if it's gospel.

              We all know LoDuca made some comments last year about 'other guys' in the clubhose that the media should go to. But if anyone paid attention last year....including the hosts on the 'FAN...you'd know that last year, there were countless post-game interviews by Beltran, Delgado, Alou, Reyes, Franco, Delgado, etc.

              Now if you sit back and look at this, it seems that LoDuca was telling the reporters (except the Latino reporters) to go to those guys...as some were wont to do...not because they don't speak English, but they talk to the media like everyone else.

              But the media (including all of the know-nothing hosts on the FAN), never say that part...and like this morning with Joe Beningo...keep making incorrect statements. And the callers who you all have heard me rip on this board, keep coming back with lies fabricated by the media. It's like these men and boys who call, refuse to apply common sense. But I know why, it's sooooooooooo easy to pile on, instead of using good sense.

              Also, can't tell you how many times Randolph has come on the air last year, and said this gossip was not true. I think they even asked Minaya also, and he said it wasn't.

              Then this morning, Beningo runs with this notion that Tony Bernazard has rule in the lockeroom with the Latino players. In effect, overriding Randolph.

              Evan Roberts to his credit, told Beningo that unless he knew things as a fact, ya can't just say stuff like that. Of course, Beningo could not name one source where he heard it.

              So if everyone is so big on taking players/managers at their word, why wasn't this madness stopped last year? Why is this stupidness still being allowed for discussion?

              This racist tone (it is what it is folks) has not stopped. Just LAST WEEK this one particular *** called on the FAN again talking about there were too many Latinos on the Mets. And why do they (the Mets) have to have so many Latinos on the roster. This guy calls at least once a month, but never in the same time frame. So you're apt to hear him spew his racist ramblings in the morning, overnights or in the afternoon.

              Hmmmm...I wonder what that fool had to say when I was 13-14 years old and the Mets MAY have had TWO black players period...or how they had SEGREGATED spring training facilities in the very early 60's in St. Petersburg.?

              This country and sports in particular has a LONG, LONG, LONG way to go in race...it rears it's sinful head everyday........

              Originally posted by Pared
              Good post, P2K.

              Guys, fill me in here... maybe I'm out of the loop... what was all this talk about I heard this morning about racial tension in the locker room? Apparently guys don't respect Willie because he is black??

              I must have completely misunderstood something... but they went as far as to say Felipe Alou would be a better fit for this club because of his race??

              What's going on?
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              • Pared
                Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                • Feb 2003
                • 39337

                #397
                Re: @ Pared &amp; Tarheelman

                I don't get what their race has to do with anything.

                Maybe I'm just being naive.
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                • TarHeelMan
                  Th* H*mb*rg*r P*mp
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 7853

                  #398
                  Re: 2008 New York Mets Discussion

                  I was "watching" this on ESPN's Gamecast at work, now I'm finally seeing the performance itself... Seems the bats have woken up, and Maine is tossing a 2 hit shutout in the bottom of the 9th... Good stuff. Imagine that, a pitching going past the seventh inning.

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                  • nyisles16
                    All Star
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 8317

                    #399
                    Re: 2008 New York Mets Discussion

                    Nice win today.. finally some great swings with RISP....

                    Maine - 8 1/3..

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                    • Rod_Carew29
                      All Star
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 7872

                      #400
                      @ Pared

                      yes, mi primo....you are right....race should have ZERO do do with it...maybe you're being naive, maybe not...

                      however, but I am deadly serious when I tell you that race MATTERS in this country....in virtually ALL facets of life...from politics to sports and beyond...it's wrong, it's inexcusable and honestly, racism is a mental illness...but you know what? As long as you, Pared, have learned your life's lessons from your folks, and you were raised CORRECTLY, you're already ahead of the curve :wink:

                      Originally posted by Pared
                      I don't get what their race has to do with anything.

                      Maybe I'm just being naive.
                      Last edited by Rod_Carew29; 05-07-2008, 08:46 PM.
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                      Don't Call It a Comeback

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                      • TarHeelMan
                        Th* H*mb*rg*r P*mp
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 7853

                        #401
                        Re: 2008 New York Mets Discussion

                        Originally posted by nyisles16
                        Nice win today.. finally some great swings with RISP....

                        Maine - 8 1/3..
                        I'll take the blame for Maine losing the shutout; the minute I post about his shutout, he starts to falter... LOL

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                        • Pared
                          Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 39337

                          #402
                          Re: 2008 New York Mets Discussion

                          This is what this team is capable of. It's just frustrating we see it every 5 games or so.
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                          • Pared
                            Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 39337

                            #403
                            Re: 2008 New York Mets Discussion

                            Keep the hits coming!
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                            • fsquid
                              Banned
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 17635

                              #404
                              Re: 2008 New York Mets Discussion

                              I'm more worried about if Florida can keep up their pace than anything.

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                              • Pared
                                Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 39337

                                #405
                                Re: 2008 New York Mets Discussion

                                They won't. Their bats are on a tear right now but that cools off eventually. Their young players always go through a hot streak every year... only difference is they're peaking early this year.
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