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  • Sportsforever
    NL MVP
    • Mar 2005
    • 20368

    #361
    Re: 2015 Atlanta Braves

    Originally posted by Speedy
    Am I the only one upset Atlanta didn't go after Feliz?
    I actually think it's wise to risk letting him go through waivers. He becomes a FA and you can sign him to a minor league deal if you want. I'd love to see them take a flyer on him.
    "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby

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    • DonkeyJote
      All Star
      • Jul 2003
      • 9189

      #362
      Re: 2015 Atlanta Braves

      I didn't even see Feliz was released. I want him. He hasn't been good this season, but he's also only thrown 19 innings. It's easy for numbers to look big at that point. He had a 1.99 era last year and a 2.53 career era going into this year (hell, it's still only 2.69).

      I've made it clear I don't love Peterson. If they were to move Peraza, I still don't think Peterson has a future as a starter. The wheels are coming off a little there too: .257/.335/.356. He's 16th out of 21 qualifying 2B in OPS. He doesn't really do anything particularly well. I think his future is as a utility infielder, albeit a pretty good one.

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      • LowerWolf
        Hall Of Fame
        • Jun 2006
        • 12270

        #363
        Re: 2015 Atlanta Braves

        Thinking outside the box ... if Peraza is all he's cracked up to be, would you even consider dealing Simmons to open up short for him? Is the potential offensive upgrade worth losing some defense?

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        • Speedy
          #Ace
          • Apr 2008
          • 16143

          #364
          Re: 2015 Atlanta Braves

          Originally posted by LowerWolf
          Thinking outside the box ... if Peraza is all he's cracked up to be, would you even consider dealing Simmons to open up short for him? Is the potential offensive upgrade worth losing some defense?
          No.

          No.

          No.
          Originally posted by Gibson88
          Anyone who asked for an ETA is not being Master of their Domain.
          It's hard though...especially when I got my neighbor playing their franchise across the street...maybe I will occupy myself with Glamore Magazine.

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          • DonkeyJote
            All Star
            • Jul 2003
            • 9189

            #365
            Re: 2015 Atlanta Braves

            No. Especially since Simmons has more offensive talent than he's shown. His obp has improved, but his power has disappeared. If he can find a balance, we'll be in good shape. Even as is, dude is tied for 4th in the baseball among SS in WAR. He's the Shortstop for a very long time.

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            • KSUowls
              All Star
              • Jul 2009
              • 5891

              #366
              Re: 2015 Atlanta Braves

              Plus we have Albies coming up as well.

              Peterson has been up and down all season. He'll never be an all-star, but there is a chance he could be a serviceable starter. We're not going to have a team of 8 all-stars playing the field. If he can get back to his SB numbers from the minors then I think we can do a lot worse with him in the IF allowing us to focus elsewhere.

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              • DonkeyJote
                All Star
                • Jul 2003
                • 9189

                #367
                Re: 2015 Atlanta Braves

                I'm just a big believer that if you have zero power, you better have a high obp and good base stealing. I don't see Peterson having good base stealing. You have to throw out low minors sb stats; anyone with decent speed can put up gaudy numbers because everyone is still so inexperienced. But between double a, triple a, and the majors, he's 26 for 44 (59%). I don't think it'll ever be a tool for him. Add in the fact that he can't hit lefties at all and I think he's a great guy to come off the bench backing up 2B, SS, and 3B.

                Albies looks great, but he's also only 18 and in high A. He's killing it there, but he's a ways away. He's still listed at 5'9", 150. He needs to grow if nothing else.
                Last edited by DonkeyJote; 07-11-2015, 01:57 PM.

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                • Sportsforever
                  NL MVP
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 20368

                  #368
                  Re: 2015 Atlanta Braves

                  It's pretty unbelievable how little power our farm system has. I know power is the tool that develops last, but the fact that 80+ games into the MiLB season there isn't ONE guy in our system with double digit home runs is alarming. Two dudes are tied with 8 on the AAA club and that's it.

                  Furthermore, every single one of our minor league teams is dead last in homers in their respective leagues...by a lot. For example, our AAA team has 27 homers in 85 games. The league leader is in the mid-80s with the next lowest team in the 50's. How has this team failed to develop power hitters?
                  Last edited by Sportsforever; 07-11-2015, 02:25 PM.
                  "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby

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                  • DonkeyJote
                    All Star
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 9189

                    #369
                    Re: 2015 Atlanta Braves

                    Originally posted by Sportsforever
                    It's pretty unbelievable how little power our farm system has. I know power is the tool that develops last, but the fact that 80+ games into the MiLB season there isn't ONE guy in our system with double digit home runs is alarming. Two dudes are tied with 8 on the AAA club and that's it.

                    Furthermore, every single one of our minor league teams is dead last in homers in their respective leagues...by a lot. For example, our AAA team has 27 homers in 85 games. The league leader is in the mid-80s with the next lowest team in the 50's. How has this team failed to develop power hitters?
                    We failed to develop everything. Most of our best prospects have been acquired in the last 9 months. Going my mlb's list, #2, 5, 7, 11, 12, 15, 16, 17, and 20 are in the first year with the organization. And 13 isn't with us now. 47% of our top prospects weren't with the team last year. And that doesn't count Folty (I guess he was on the big roster when they last updated this?). And of the last 8 drafts, we've only taken a position player in the 1st once (Davidson, 32nd).

                    Davidson projects as an okay Power guy; and he's been improving. When he was drafted, 20 or so hr was thrown about. We'll see, but that's okay. I wish Peterson could've stuck at 3rd, but they have him in LF now.

                    We're also heavily rumored to be going nuts in the international market next year. That's why we made so many trades this year to stay under; we're poised to go waaayyyy over next year, especially since 10 teams, including pretty much all of the big market clubs, having to sit out.

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                    • Speedy
                      #Ace
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 16143

                      #370
                      Re: 2015 Atlanta Braves

                      In other words, Donkey is saying it's Wren fault.

                      Right?

                      Spoiler
                      Originally posted by Gibson88
                      Anyone who asked for an ETA is not being Master of their Domain.
                      It's hard though...especially when I got my neighbor playing their franchise across the street...maybe I will occupy myself with Glamore Magazine.

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                      • DonkeyJote
                        All Star
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 9189

                        #371
                        Re: 2015 Atlanta Braves

                        Originally posted by Speedy
                        In other words, Donkey is saying it's Wren fault.

                        Right?

                        Spoiler
                        Pretty much. How a man with a scouting and development background did so poorly in that area is beyond me.

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                        • p_rushing
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 14514

                          #372
                          Re: 2015 Atlanta Braves

                          Originally posted by DonkeyJote
                          Pretty much. How a man with a scouting and development background did so poorly in that area is beyond me.
                          he ran off all the talented scouts because he wanted total control and kept making stupid decisions

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                          • TheMatrix31
                            RF
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 52923

                            #373
                            Re: 2015 Atlanta Braves

                            Out of the young arms so far, I think Wisler is most "my" style. I like him the most at this point.

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                            • thefakeJTS
                              Pro
                              • Nov 2012
                              • 913

                              #374
                              Re: 2015 Atlanta Braves

                              Well I don't think we trade Jim Johnson now. Bullpen was weakest area and without Grilli, it became that much worse.

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                              • DonkeyJote
                                All Star
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 9189

                                #375
                                Re: 2015 Atlanta Braves

                                Originally posted by thefakeJTS
                                Well I don't think we trade Jim Johnson now. Bullpen was weakest area and without Grilli, it became that much worse.

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                                We were also going to trade Grilli, and now we can't. I still think Johnson is moved

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