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  • ehh
    Hall Of Fame
    • Mar 2003
    • 28962

    #1711
    Re: Official New York Yankees Bleacher Creatures Team Thread

    Well, this is the biggest off season in the past five years IMO. Steinbrenner I think finally realized that his and Cashman's decisions over the past several offseasons have been atrocious and a change needs to be made.


    All the rumors on the radio today said Cashman is likely gone, which is a good move. It was Gene Michael who built the dynasty of the 90's anyway, not Cashman. Cashman is the one who basically destroyed it, but I'm sure that had alot to do with pressure from Georgie boy.


    Finally Kevin Brown's idiotic *** is gone, and word on the street is that Bernie is also gone. Which I think is the best case for both sides, Torre repeatidly stands by Bernie, which is good on one hand because he's showing loyalty, but at the same time Bernie's career is over. He struggles to hit .250 and hit 12 homers. His bat as slowed so much and he can't even put a meatball in play half the time he gets one. They need to part ways. Same with Ruben Sierra. I understand that he's a great mentor for Cano, but he's ancient and couldn't do anything after he came back from the DL, and his production was limited even before that. Cano is well on his way to becoming a very solid player, but he needs to get his head out of the clouds on when he's in the field.

    Wang and Chacon SHOULD be our #1 and #2 next year, but of course Moose and Johnson will be. Wright will probably be our 5th starter unfortunately, and Small (if he's even on the team) will start out in the pen.

    I'm very nervous about Sheffield because of his aging body, I have a bad feeling that he'll go down the same road is Bernie and just completely fall off one year. He swings so damn hard and with all the knick-knack injuries he has I can see his body totally breaking down in the next year or two.

    Obviously the core of Jeter, Matsui, A-Rod, Cano and Posada will return as well.

    But besides that, whoever the GM is next year needs to stop going after "superstar sluggers". No more Giambi's, no more A-Rod's or Sheffields. We need the Scott Brosius, the Paul O'Neill's, the Chad Curtis' back again. We need players who can play defense and put the ball in play. I'm not even overly concerned with speed because the Yanks have always hit-and-run so well.

    As for 2006, the division will be the weakest it's been in a decade IMO, and we should be able to win it next year because our team is basically built for the regular season and not the post season. It's funny how Boston was at the top last year, then in one single off season they managed to accomplish what the Yankees did over 5 off seasons. They totally abandoned the importance of pitching and defense. How the hell do they not resign Cabrera, Pedro and D-Lowe. Granted none of those three were itching to stay in Boston, but it was a terrible job by Epstein. Renteria, Wells and Clement to replace those three guys? What I'm getting at is that this isn't just a New York problem, any team that fails to recognize the importance of pitching and defense isn't going anywhere. Even more ironic that the book "Mind Game" or whatever it's called about them creating a blueprint for winning came out, just in time to see the Red Sox fall flat on their face.



    Sorry for the long post, but there's been alot of frustration building up over the last 4 years.
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    • Porschebenz2001
      MVP
      • Nov 2004
      • 3628

      #1712
      Re: Official New York Yankees Bleacher Creatures Team Thread

      Bernie is gone, Sierra is gone, Cashman is gone but all I hear about is how Cashman is scared of an overbearing Steinbrenner and wants out neway. I think the best move would be to let Matsui go because the outfield and the team in general needs to get a lot younger. Starting OF for next season: Sheff, Juan Pierre, Bubba Crosby, but i highly doubt that will happen. I like the idea of a younger outfield with Pierre and Crosby since Sheff is towards the end of his career, and I know you have 2 CF's there but one they are both good defensive players that could probably play left. I know, kind of a crazy idea about the OF but the Yankees need to take a risk.
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      • ehh
        Hall Of Fame
        • Mar 2003
        • 28962

        #1713
        Re: Official New York Yankees Bleacher Creatures Team Thread

        Originally posted by Porschebenz2001
        I think the best move would be to let Matsui go because the outfield and the team in general needs to get a lot younger.

        Strange, I was actually thinking the same thing. But I guess there is no chance that is gonna happen.
        "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

        "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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        • elicoleman
          Im The Baby/Gotta Love Me
          • Sep 2002
          • 34655

          #1714
          Re: Official New York Yankees Bleacher Creatures Team Thread

          Get MLB news, scores, stats, standings & more for your favorite teams and players -- plus watch highlights and live games! All on FoxSports.com.


          The Yankees

          Pending free agents: SP Kevin Brown, RP Alan Embree, C John Flaherty, RP Tom Gordon, OF Matt Lawton, RP Al Leiter, 1B Tino Martinez (team option), SP Hideo Nomo, RP Felix Rodriguez, INF Rey Sanchez, DH Ruben Sierra, RP Tanyon Sturtze (team option), OF Bernie Williams

          Besides the litany of players bound for free agency, general manager Brian Cashman is also no longer under contract. Of course, considering the Yankees' "hootenanny" approach to organizational decision-making (in which the loudest voice gets heard), it may not matter who holds the ceremonial title of GM. In any event, Cashman is likely gone, and manager Joe Torre may be, as well.

          As for the on-the-field talent, the Yankees' needs this winter are the same as they were last winter — pitching in all its forms and a legit center fielder.

          On the pitching front, the Yankees have Randy Johnson and Mike Mussina under contract, and Chien-Ming Wang and Shawn Chacon have likely earned spots to start 2006. (Oh, and Carl Pavano and Jaret Wright are also in tow, but let's try to keep things positive.) The Yanks should start by re-upping with Tom Gordon. Then they should endeavor to sign A.J. Burnett away from the Marlins. Burnett has health issues in his past, but he's only 28 (young by free-agent standards), and his rare combination of high strikeout rates and strong groundball tendencies augur well for the future. Failing that, Kevin Millwood (quietly, this year's ERA title winner in the AL) would also be an excellent fit. Of course, there's always the slim possibility that Roger Clemens hits the market and is willing to pitch somewhere other than Houston.

          As far as fleshing out the rest of the bullpen goes, there's Scott Sauerbeck and Chris Hammond from the left side and quality guys like Bob Howry, Cal Eldred and LaTroy Hawkins throwing starboard. Those aren't the only options. Provided these elite relievers would be willing to abdicate their closer duties, hurlers like B.J. Ryan, Kyle Farnsworth, Mike Timlin and Todd Jones might be possibilities.

          On the lineup front, priority number one must be landing someone who can chase flies in center — something the Yankees haven't had since Bernie Williams was ambulatory. If Johnny Damon hits the market, he's the guy (and he'd have the added bonus of coming over from Boston). Other possibilities include Jacque Jones and Kenny Lofton. Also of use would be a first baseman who can hit a little and with a glove somewhere north of Jason Giambi's. Tino Martinez's offensive decline is such that picking up his option wouldn't be wise. A platoon arrangement of John Olerud/Travis Lee and Julio Franco/Olmedo Saenz would be optimal.
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          • NYJets
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jul 2002
            • 18637

            #1715
            Re: Official New York Yankees Bleacher Creatures Team Thread

            Rotation should be (in no order):
            Johnson
            Mussina
            Chacon
            Wang
            Small/Pavano/Wright

            Unfortunately, if all 3 of the remaining guys are on the team, Small will probably have no shot to earn the starting spot, due to the contracts. Not that he's anywhere near a sure thing to be a quality pitcher again, but I'd hope he gets a shot. We're probably in our best shape as far as starting rotation goes in 2 years. Might not even bring anyone in, especially since the starting pitcher FA pool is weak. No way they sign Burnett, they've had enough problems bringing over national league guys who only had a couple good years.

            Bullpen needs some work. I think we'll make a strong run at Ryan, but who know's if he'd be willing to take a set up role. We'll probably bring back Gordon, but he struggled at times this year, and I have no confidence in him in the playoffs or against Boston. A lot of work needs to be done here.

            I think Matsui will be back, and I'd be for it as long as it's no longer than a 3 or 4 year deal. I wouldn't mind Bernie back as a part time player, but I hope he decides to retire. I don't think we'll make a strong run at Damon. No idea who will be in centerfield, but I don't think it will be a big name guy. I'd look into dealing Sheffield if I could. I don't know if there's much of a market for him, but we need to get younger and more balanced offensively. I wouldn't give him away, but if we can bring in some decent bullpen help, and/or young outfielders/pitching, I'd do it. Cano, Jeter, A-Rod and Giambi will all be back. Tino most likely won't be. His bat is so bad now that we can't afford to play him. I don't think Posada is really tradeable, but I do think the Yankees might try and start grooming someone to replace him. His defense is poor, and his numbers have been declining the last 2 years.

            Cashman will be gone. I think the Yankees want him back, but he's made it obvious that he's done, and is tired of all the politics in this organization. I don't blame him. Hopefully they give Gene Micheal a big role in the decision making, but that's doubtful. The new GM will probably be one of the Steinbrenner asskissers down in Tampa, who are responsible for quality signings like Wright and Tony Womack.

            Lastly, I expect Torre back, but it wouldn't completely shock me if he quit, even with all the money he is still owed. Just the way he's been acting, and some of the things he's said this year, make me think he might be planning on hanging it up. Hope I'm wrong, because without him this team wouldn't have sniffed the playoffs this year.

            Going to be an interesting offseason. Outside of BJ Ryan I don't see us trying to make any HUGE moves, but there will be tweaks. Hopefully the new GM can find a way to get some younger talent in here and some role players.
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            • DuffysCliff
              Rookie
              • Jan 2004
              • 294

              #1716
              Re: Official New York Yankees Bleacher Creatures Team Thread

              Originally posted by ehh

              As for 2006, the division will be the weakest it's been in a decade IMO, and we should be able to win it next year because our team is basically built for the regular season and not the post season. It's funny how Boston was at the top last year, then in one single off season they managed to accomplish what the Yankees did over 5 off seasons. They totally abandoned the importance of pitching and defense. How the hell do they not resign Cabrera, Pedro and D-Lowe. Granted none of those three were itching to stay in Boston, but it was a terrible job by Epstein. Renteria, Wells and Clement to replace those three guys? What I'm getting at is that this isn't just a New York problem, any team that fails to recognize the importance of pitching and defense isn't going anywhere. Even more ironic that the book "Mind Game" or whatever it's called about them creating a blueprint for winning came out, just in time to see the Red Sox fall flat on their face.

              Cabrera isn't that great. He had a 82 OPS+ this year, Renteria had a 91 OPS+. There was obviously a big difference in defense, but who knew Renteria would be so bad? The guy was a gold glove winner.

              Everyone knew Lowe wouldn't be back, especially since he had been pretty crappy since 2002, with exception of last year's playoffs. He was also asking for way to much money.

              Pedro is the only real mess up in my mind, but even then, I don't think he would have put up the same numbers in the AL, especially the AL East that he put up in the NL. Who knows though.

              I agree it wasn't a good offseason for Theo, mainly because of how the season turned out. If the Red Sox don't lose Schilling and Foulke, this season is totally different. The only plus for Theo was trading for Graffanino.

              The reason the Red Sox fell flat on their face was because of the offense, not pitching and defense, due to the fact that 5 of our hitters were doing absolutley nothing. We relied on our offense all year long, but the last two weeks of the season, it came up short.



              I can see the Yankees letting Bernie go, and signing Konerko and Pierre.

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              • Kashanova
                Hall Of Fame
                • Aug 2003
                • 12695

                #1717
                Re: Official New York Yankees Bleacher Creatures Team Thread

                They need a better pen
                Outfielders
                1b or DH
                And Definetly a new catcher Posada's day are coming to an end soon

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                • deeman11747
                  G-M*nnnn
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 3194

                  #1718
                  Re: Official New York Yankees Bleacher Creatures Team Thread

                  Originally posted by NYJets
                  Rotation should be (in no order):
                  Johnson
                  Mussina
                  Chacon
                  Wang
                  Small/Pavano/Wright

                  Unfortunately, if all 3 of the remaining guys are on the team, Small will probably have no shot to earn the starting spot, due to the contracts. Not that he's anywhere near a sure thing to be a quality pitcher again, but I'd hope he gets a shot. We're probably in our best shape as far as starting rotation goes in 2 years. Might not even bring anyone in, especially since the starting pitcher FA pool is weak. No way they sign Burnett, they've had enough problems bringing over national league guys who only had a couple good years.

                  Bullpen needs some work. I think we'll make a strong run at Ryan, but who know's if he'd be willing to take a set up role. We'll probably bring back Gordon, but he struggled at times this year, and I have no confidence in him in the playoffs or against Boston. A lot of work needs to be done here.

                  I think Matsui will be back, and I'd be for it as long as it's no longer than a 3 or 4 year deal. I wouldn't mind Bernie back as a part time player, but I hope he decides to retire. I don't think we'll make a strong run at Damon. No idea who will be in centerfield, but I don't think it will be a big name guy. I'd look into dealing Sheffield if I could. I don't know if there's much of a market for him, but we need to get younger and more balanced offensively. I wouldn't give him away, but if we can bring in some decent bullpen help, and/or young outfielders/pitching, I'd do it. Cano, Jeter, A-Rod and Giambi will all be back. Tino most likely won't be. His bat is so bad now that we can't afford to play him. I don't think Posada is really tradeable, but I do think the Yankees might try and start grooming someone to replace him. His defense is poor, and his numbers have been declining the last 2 years.

                  Cashman will be gone. I think the Yankees want him back, but he's made it obvious that he's done, and is tired of all the politics in this organization. I don't blame him. Hopefully they give Gene Micheal a big role in the decision making, but that's doubtful. The new GM will probably be one of the Steinbrenner asskissers down in Tampa, who are responsible for quality signings like Wright and Tony Womack.

                  Lastly, I expect Torre back, but it wouldn't completely shock me if he quit, even with all the money he is still owed. Just the way he's been acting, and some of the things he's said this year, make me think he might be planning on hanging it up. Hope I'm wrong, because without him this team wouldn't have sniffed the playoffs this year.

                  Going to be an interesting offseason. Outside of BJ Ryan I don't see us trying to make any HUGE moves, but there will be tweaks. Hopefully the new GM can find a way to get some younger talent in here and some role players.
                  I was hearing rumors of them trying to get rid of Pavano but I dont think anyone would want him.

                  I think they'll bring Gordon back but I heard that Ryan has said he'd accept a set-up role if it was for a great closer and it gave him a chance to win. Plus Mo has only about 3-4 years left so Ryan could take over for 2 or 3 years after Rivera was done if we signed him.

                  Yeah.. Cashman wont be back and one of Steinbrenner's b**ches will probably take over and run our team into the ground.

                  I dont see them trading Sheff and not resigning Matsui would be a huge mistake. He's a classy guy and player and brings respect to the team who makes it easy to have diesprespect for them by other teams. I think Bernie will accept a backup role for one more year.. and I think Tino will stay on but Sierra will not.

                  Torre was mostly sick of Steinbrenner's guys telling YES to make Kim Jones awkward questions to him to make him and the team to look bad as he has privately said to many people.... but I think he can deal with it as hes said he really loves the guys he has on the team and they love playing for him.

                  Should be an interesting offseason.

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                  • Kashanova
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 12695

                    #1719
                    Re: Official New York Yankees Bleacher Creatures Team Thread

                    Some Free Agents out there are
                    Kenny Rogers-Too old though
                    Shawn Estes
                    Jarrod Washburn
                    Omar Daal
                    Denny Neagle
                    Kirk Rueter
                    Kevin Millwood
                    A.J. Burnett
                    Jeff Weaver
                    Jason Schmidt (Team Option)
                    B.J. RyanReally Want this guy
                    Felix Rodriguez
                    Paul Quantrill
                    Tom Gordon
                    Mike Timlin
                    Julian Tavarez
                    Kyle Farnsworth
                    Ugeuth Urbina
                    Matt Mantei

                    Gm's
                    Theo Epstein
                    Brian Cashman

                    OF's
                    Jacque Jones
                    Carl Everett (Team Option)
                    Johnny Damon
                    Brian Giles

                    1b's
                    Kevin Millar
                    Paul Konerko
                    Frank Thomas

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                    • elicoleman
                      Im The Baby/Gotta Love Me
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 34655

                      #1720
                      Re: Official New York Yankees Bleacher Creatures Team Thread

                      I guess I'm one of the few that doesn't want Ryan. I'm just not that impressed with him.
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                      • Kashanova
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 12695

                        #1721
                        Re: Official New York Yankees Bleacher Creatures Team Thread

                        Originally posted by deeman11747
                        I was hearing rumors of them trying to get rid of Pavano but I dont think anyone would want him.

                        I think they'll bring Gordon back but I heard that Ryan has said he'd accept a set-up role if it was for a great closer and it gave him a chance to win. Plus Mo has only about 3-4 years left so Ryan could take over for 2 or 3 years after Rivera was done if we signed him.

                        Yeah.. Cashman wont be back and one of Steinbrenner's b**ches will probably take over and run our team into the ground.

                        I dont see them trading Sheff and not resigning Matsui would be a huge mistake. He's a classy guy and player and brings respect to the team who makes it easy to have diesprespect for them by other teams. I think Bernie will accept a backup role for one more year.. and I think Tino will stay on but Sierra will not.

                        Torre was mostly sick of Steinbrenner's guys telling YES to make Kim Jones awkward questions to him to make him and the team to look bad as he has privately said to many people.... but I think he can deal with it as hes said he really loves the guys he has on the team and they love playing for him.

                        Should be an interesting offseason.
                        Tino has said it was his last year

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                        • ehh
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 28962

                          #1722
                          Re: Official New York Yankees Bleacher Creatures Team Thread

                          Originally posted by elicoleman
                          I guess I'm one of the few that doesn't want Ryan. I'm just not that impressed with him.

                          But he's a hell of alot better than any LHP reliever we've had in years, and certainly better than Embree.
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                          "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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                          • ehh
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 28962

                            #1723
                            Re: Official New York Yankees Bleacher Creatures Team Thread

                            Well, Torre's end-of-the-season press conference is at 3 PM EST. I can't wait to watch this. I'm definatley interested to see what his outlook on the future is.
                            "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

                            "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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                            • ehh
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 28962

                              #1724
                              Re: Official New York Yankees Bleacher Creatures Team Thread

                              Also, here's Mike Lupica's article on why the Yanks suck, ahem, I mean lost. And have been on their demise the last four years.



                              On the Saturday when one of our policemen, a great young cop named Brian Moore, age 25, was shot dead, the killing ground was an intersection in Queens Village. On a Friday morning six days later t…



                              The scariest part is #7, thank the lord that trade never went through.
                              Last edited by ehh; 10-12-2005, 12:31 PM.
                              "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

                              "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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                              • ehh
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 28962

                                #1725
                                Re: Official New York Yankees Bleacher Creatures Team Thread

                                Mel Stottlymere just announced he isn't coming back. Apparently Torre isn't scheduled to speak today. Cashman is also expected to speak, but not on his contract situation and his future until November 1st.


                                Mel sounds very sad/biter about this. This may be the start a real ugly off season.
                                Last edited by ehh; 10-12-2005, 12:37 PM.
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