Official Boston Red Sox 2005 Thread

[ILLCHILL]

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I am not doubting him based on this one performance, but I doubted this before it happened. They shoulda just let him work up his stamina and bring him back in September if it took that long, we need this guy in the rotation. I just can't believe that we would take this huge risk when we have a guy like Timlin who can do it.

[Thrasha]

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No need to panic, we've got Leskanic..... oh crap, we don't.

It's going to take some time to determine if this Schilling experiment is gonna work. I'm not ready to judge him after facing 2 of the best hitters in the game in his first game back. At this point, he needs to pitch, whether it's good or bad. The Red Sox were good enough to survive a few bad outings from Foulke and they're good enough to survive the same with Schill.

lol I've been thinking about Curtis alot lately. But I always referred to him as Curtis Letspanic. Whatever happened to Mike MacDougal??
I remember looking at his numbers a week or so ago and they weren't that bad. Anything would be an improvement to our already lacklust BP IMO.

[CWood2]

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Jayson Stark today on ESPNews: "You'll see the Red Sox make a move for the best starter or the best reliever before the deadline, whichever one is available." Among the names he mentioned, AJ Burnett and Billy Wagner. I think with AJ's stuff and the Marlins demands, which is basically a pitcher to replace him, a closer or end of the line reliever, and a close to ready prospect, we should probably stay out of that one. Anyone heard what the Phils would demand for Mr. Wagner? If it were Shoppach and any combination of prospects outside of the top 5, I think Theo would have already initiated the talks.

[Stu]

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I heard a rumor that there are some Burnett for Arroyo talks going on. It just isn't clear what the Marlins would want in addition to Arroyo. I could see a mega deal going down with Philadelphia involving Wagner and Thome but I really doubt the Red Sox would be willing to take on that much salary.

[CWood2]

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I heard a rumor that there are some Burnett for Arroyo talks going on. It just isn't clear what the Marlins would want in addition to Arroyo. I could see a mega deal going down with Philadelphia involving Wagner and Thome but I really doubt the Red Sox would be willing to take on that much salary.

I'd gladly give up Arroyo to get AJ, the only question is what top pitching prospects do they want in addition since we can't give them a major league reliever, and God forbid Hanley. I'm glad we're headed to Portland in the next few days though, just in case!

Stark also said the Phils are listening to anyone about everybody, Bobby Abreu included. I know the brass is waiting till the offseason to address Johnny's contract, but if we knew for sure we couldn't keep him, Abreu is the guy I'd want over just about anyone. Again, probably couldn't happen, but what a pickup that would be if we knew more. I think the Phils are stuck with Thome though, which is funny because how good Ryan Howard can be.

[Stu]

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I'd gladly give up Arroyo to get AJ, the only question is what top pitching prospects do they want in addition since we can't give them a major league reliever, and God forbid Hanley. I'm glad we're headed to Portland in the next few days though, just in case!

Theo has repeatedly said he isn't willing to give up the "untouchables" which includes Papelbon, Lester, Hanley, Pedroia, Sanchez and Delcarmen. Who knows if he's telling the truth. My feeling is that he expects several of them to make significant contributions next year in order to save money on them so they can spend it elsewhere. Pedroia, Papelbon and Delcarmen seem like the most likely candidates to be on the team next year.

The question about AJ Burnett is, can you sign him and for what? I've heard rumors he wants up to $60/4. I think that's too much since he hasn't been all that healthy and they already have over $20 mil committed to Schilling and Clement for next year. However, if they don't think they can sign Damon or don't want to deal with that drama it might make sense to improve the team elsewhere.

Stark also said the Phils are listening to anyone about everybody, Bobby Abreu included. I know the brass is waiting till the offseason to address Johnny's contract, but if we knew for sure we couldn't keep him, Abreu is the guy I'd want over just about anyone. Again, probably couldn't happen, but what a pickup that would be if we knew more. I think the Phils are stuck with Thome though, which is funny because how good Ryan Howard can be.

That would be one wild deal if Abreu was involved. I doubt anything of that magnitude will happen though.

[Beantown]

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I have a weird one to throw out there, while I doubt this happens, but...

Abreu/Wagner for Manny? Theo's always trying to get rid of Manny, so I mean, who knows.

[Thrasha]

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That would be one wild deal if Abreu was involved. I doubt anything of that magnitude will happen though.

After last year at this time...Can you honestly doubt anything? lol

[Beantown]

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David Wells was suspended 6 games for the July 2nd incident, where he "came in contact" with two umpires. I'm assuming he'll appeal and get his start vs the yanks in.

[GBrushTWood]

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I have a weird one to throw out there, while I doubt this happens, but...

Abreu/Wagner for Manny? Theo's always trying to get rid of Manny, so I mean, who knows.

That'd be sweetass, though it would make the lineup pretty damn lefty centric. Damon, Ortiz, Abreu, Nixon. A LOOGY's wet dream.

Good thing we have Mike Myers.

I don't see Philadelphia moving Abreu. I know Ed Wade is supposedly dumb and all, but I don't see most GM's moving core players who produce. You strive to attain guys like Abreu, you don't just move them for what wouldn't clearly be an upgrade.

[Thrasha]

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That'd be sweetass, though it would make the lineup pretty damn lefty centric. Damon, Ortiz, Abreu, Nixon. A LOOGY's wet dream.

Good thing we have Mike Myers.

I don't see Philadelphia moving Abreu. I know Ed Wade is supposedly dumb and all, but I don't see most GM's moving core players who produce. You strive to attain guys like Abreu, you don't just move them for what wouldn't clearly be an upgrade.

If Philly is going to move a big contract/bat it'll be Thome's, not Abreu's. And I don't care how much money Manny makes, their is no hitter that I would take over him. I can understand wanting to move his salary, but he's a player that you KNOW what you will get.

Plus try explaining to your fans (philly fans that is) that you traded away the guy who won the HR derby (also setting the record for a single HR derby round and total contest) and keeping Thome with his albatross contract. AND keeping Howard in the minors as well, along with shipping your best pitcher too.

[elicoleman]

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RING THE DAMN BELL, THIS IS GETTING UGLY!

[deeman11747]

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Have fun shallacking Tim Redding tomorrow.

Whoops.. forgot to add Darrel May, Jason Anderson, and Buddy Groom to that list.

Although these pitchers have no business being in the majors, you have to give credit to the Sox offense tonight... they just keep pounding the ball all over the place. Hopefully it'll be a different story aginst Unit tomorrow.

[ILLCHILL]

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Great win tonight. ANy other type of victory except a walk-off couldnt have wiped that taste of last night's loss from my mouth, but there is nothing like shelacking the Yanks.

[APD0290]

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On 1510 today they said that the Sox may offer Arroyo, Youks, and a minor leaguer to the Florida Marlins for A.J. Burnett. I'm not sure if I like this trade. Arroyo 7-5 with a 4.14 ERA in the AL while Burnett is 5-6 with a 3.64 ERA in the NL. I'm not sure giving away Youkilis and a prospect (probably Shoppach) for an improvement of 0.2-0.3 in ERA (assuming his ERA goes up a bit with a change of leagues).

If they'll take Wade Miller instead of Arroyo then I'm all for it, but if not, I hope the Sox don't offer the deal.