Official Boston Red Sox 2005 Thread

[Stu]

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the Hartford Courant is reporting that the Red Sox have DFA'd Jay Payton and he will likely be traded. This along with the Scott Cassidy move makes me think something is in the works.

http://www.courant.com/sports/baseball/redsox/hc-paytontrade0607update,0,6854144.story?coll=hc-small-headlines-breaking

[CWood2]

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the Hartford Courant is reporting that the Red Sox have DFA'd Jay Payton and he will likely be traded. This along with the Scott Cassidy move makes me think something is in the works.

http://www.courant.com/sports/baseba...lines-breaking

And if Kapler is on a plane like I think he is, we get some bullpen help or a prospect for virtually nothing. Great move.

[Stu]

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And if Kapler is on a plane like I think he is, we get some bullpen help or a prospect for virtually nothing. Great move.

The things that have me confused are this:

- Damon has tonight off so who plays CF?
- What are we going to do with Adam Stern?
- Why call up Scott Cassidy?

I get the feeling that today is a busy day for the Red Sox front office. Should be interesting to see what comes out of this.

[ILLCHILL]

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Wait a sec, Kapler on his way back and Payton being traded is confirmed?

[Stu]

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Wait a sec, Kapler on his way back and Payton being traded is confirmed?

Both are unconfirmed but the Red Sox designated Payton for assignment which means they need to trade, release or send him to the minors in the next 10 days.

[DuffysCliff]

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Wow, if he pans out like that I'll be singing his praises till I'm blue in the face. At the very least with a strong fastball and the best curve in the system he's going to be a great power arm out of the pen. Originally projected as a # 2 starter, but with the surgery, he seems poised to make a difference towards the end of games.

From what I've heard about Delcarmen is that his secondary pitches aren't quite there yet, which is why he was moved to the bullpen in the first place. Not only did he pitch 2 scoreless innings in his debut, he struck out 5, walking one. In other debuts, today Anibal Sanchez went 4 innings, striking out 6 while walking 2. We'll see what Papelbon does in his debut tonight.

About Payton being DFA'd, it seems a little drastic, but hopefully we can get something of value in return, as there are some teams out there in need of outfield help (Dodgers, Braves).

[Stu]

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About Payton being DFA'd, it seems a little drastic, but hopefully we can get something of value in return, as there are some teams out there in need of outfield help (Dodgers, Braves).

The Hartford Courant is on WEEI saying that they are putting the finishing touches on a trade for Payton. I'm guessing they DFA'd him to create room on the roster for tonight but not sure who will take his place since Stern is still recovering and Chip Ambres isn't on the 40 man roster.

[Stu]

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More news. XM radio is reporting that the Red Sox have traded Ramon Vazquez to the Indians for Alex Cora.

Also, Adam Stern was called up to take Payton's place.

[DuffysCliff]

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I like this deal, though Cora hasn't done much offensively this year, he's been decent in the past. Plus hes a better fielder than Vazquez, and most importantly, not hurt.

[Stu]

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I like this deal, though Cora hasn't done much offensively this year, he's been decent in the past. Plus hes a better fielder than Vazquez, and most importantly, not hurt.

Yah, the Vazquez trade is a no-brainer. We needed a utility infielder that can actually field. Not like we were getting much offense out of Vazquez anyways.

[DuffysCliff]

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Do you think he'll mention his 18 pitch at bat that ended in a home run to Matt Clement? Oh, and another plus to Cora, according to Gammons, he's the smartest player in baseball. The only real downside I can see to this trade is that Cora makes 1.3 million this year, while Vazquez only was making 700 thousand. Though since it's halfway through the season, the difference is only like 300 thousand.

[Misfit]

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I'm glad they're making changes now instead of the day of the deadline like last year. I'd love to see Delcarmen have great success at Pawtucket and earn at least a September call-up late in the year. It's definitly nice having prospects to look forward to seeing in the show for once. Could it be possibly they promoted him to show him off some at the Triple A level to perhaps increase his trade value? If he has a shot of being as effective as K-Rod then they'd be stupid to trade him but we'll see.

Cora is a much better option off the bench than Vazquez. I'm happy with that move as Vazquez really couldn't hit, run, or field because of injuries and ability. Stern will probably start tonight. I don't expect the team to get much for Payton, but perhaps Atlanta would take him in exchange for Danny Kolb if Boston took on some of Kolb's salary. I don't know if Kolb would be the answer in the pen, but he'd be worth a look. Guardado would be the ideal man to land for the pen, though.

[Thrasha]

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Any ideas on what the package for the Payton trade will be like?

I don't think it'll involve any big names, maybe Kolb out of ATL? Although that's a pretty big risk.

[APD0290]

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I think we could see Payton and Millar to the Braves for Dan Kolb and the rights to Adam Stern. I hope Theo can figure something out that's better than that, but that's all I can come up with right now.

[ILLCHILL]

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I don't want to package up Millar and Payton unless they go ahead and throw in a prospect to get a big name. Otherwise, trade each one seperately.

I LOVE this trade with Cora. I dont see any downside, we pretty much just traded a utility infielder for a better utility infielder. I did like Vasquez when we initially got him, but he did absolutely nothing here. Great trade, I don't know what the Indians were doing.

This team is gonna take its final shape real soon. According to Gammons, it won't include Guardado.