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  • lonewolf371
    MVP
    • Aug 2009
    • 3420

    #106
    Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

    Originally posted by jake44np
    Getting 5 (BeeJay will sign) of the top 100 players in the country=one of the best classes in the country, trust me. For the 2012 class they were ranked #5 and had the #19, #41, #43, and #141 ranked players in the country. Heck they were ranked #3 on scout for 2012.

    And i am not selling anything, read my post above. They will have plenty of openigs after this year. Let me break it down for you.
    Below is there roster for next year. Scholly players only, notice they have 13.
    The following year they will lose 4 seniors, right now they have signed 4 recruits.
    If they sign a 5th the will be one over. Keep in mind Zeller could leave and be a lottery pick after next year. Also they will have a ton of very talented players.I am guessing atleast one will leave because they will not play much and will want to go somewhere they can play. They really have a very tough problem, that is having so much talent.

    1 Jordan Hulls 6-0 181 Guard sr Bloomington, Ind.
    2 Christian Watford 6-9 225 Forward sr. Birmingham, Ala.
    3 Maurice Creek 6-5 195 Guard sr. Oxon Hill, Md.
    4 Victor Oladipo 6-5 214 Guard jr. Hyattsville, Md.
    10 Will Sheehey 6-6 200 Forward jr. Stuart, Fla.
    13 Austin Etherington 6-6 198 Forward so. Cicero, Ind.
    23 Remy Abell 6-3 195 Guard so. Louisville, Ky.
    32 Derek Elston 6-9 225 Forward sr. Tipton, Ind.
    40 Cody Zeller 6-11 230 Forward so. Washington, Ind.
    Peter Jurkin FR
    Yogi Ferrell FR
    Hanner Perea FR
    Ron Patterson FR (Prep school next year)
    Jeremy Holloway FR
    You're ignoring the fact that Maurice Creek will probably get a medical red shirt for 2011-2012, so you're over by one right now for 2013. Say Zeller leaves early (probably the only one, I don't see any of your freshmen as one-and-dones as the most talented ones are a little raw), then you're even for 2013. Add Anya and you're over again and likely going to need a transfer or Creek to not get his medical red shirt. I also haven't seen anything about Patterson going to prep school, and even if he was that wouldn't change anything for 2013.

    And getting top 100 players is way different than getting top 50 players. Seriously, go back and look at the rankings for 2012. IU would not have a top 5 class even with Anya. I could see IU moving into the top 10 with Anya.

    In any case, it's a little disappointing to see IU and Purdue beginning to over-sign in basketball like the SEC does in football. Purdue did it first, so I won't harp on you too much, but still.
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    • sven
      Banned
      • Jul 2002
      • 6021

      #107
      Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

      Beilein does it too. At one point our 2013 class had us 2 or 3 over the limit.

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      • jake44np
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        • Jul 2002
        • 9563

        #108
        Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

        Originally posted by lonewolf371
        You're ignoring the fact that Maurice Creek will probably get a medical red shirt for 2011-2012, so you're over by one right now for 2013. Say Zeller leaves early (probably the only one, I don't see any of your freshmen as one-and-dones as the most talented ones are a little raw), then you're even for 2013. Add Anya and you're over again and likely going to need a transfer or Creek to not get his medical red shirt. I also haven't seen anything about Patterson going to prep school, and even if he was that wouldn't change anything for 2013.

        And getting top 100 players is way different than getting top 50 players. Seriously, go back and look at the rankings for 2012. IU would not have a top 5 class even with Anya. I could see IU moving into the top 10 with Anya.

        In any case, it's a little disappointing to see IU and Purdue beginning to over-sign in basketball like the SEC does in football. Purdue did it first, so I won't harp on you too much, but still.
        Take is for what its worth but i am hearing Creek may never play competitive bball again. Again I am not saying he will never play again but a buddy of mine who lives in BTown is telling me he is not healing very well. And like i said it will all work itself out someone will just have to leave if he gets everyone he wants. Roth is more than likely going to have to be gone even tho he was granted another year by the NCAA. He needs to realize he is just not the caliber of player that should be playing for IU now. 4 years ago when no one wanted to come to IU after the Sampson scandel he was fine for IU, now not so much.
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        • redsrule
          All Star
          • Apr 2010
          • 9396

          #109
          Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

          Originally posted by gcabaltica
          Now that VTech has finally released Montrezl Harrell from his committment, Pitino and Calipari will go at it in yet another recruiting battle along with Donovan & Gootfried with a short amount of time to make their pitch. Very athletic & 6-7 230LBS, he's going to be a great late period get for any of the aformentioned.
          That should be in the 2012 thread...
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          • dunnyduns
            MVP
            • Feb 2003
            • 1408

            #110
            Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

            Originally posted by jake44np
            Take is for what its worth but i am hearing Creek may never play competitive bball again. Again I am not saying he will never play again but a buddy of mine who lives in BTown is telling me he is not healing very well. And like i said it will all work itself out someone will just have to leave if he gets everyone he wants. Roth is more than likely going to have to be gone even tho he was granted another year by the NCAA. He needs to realize he is just not the caliber of player that should be playing for IU now. 4 years ago when no one wanted to come to IU after the Sampson scandel he was fine for IU, now not so much.
            I haven't heard/read anything recently with Maurice Creek, but the news that he isn't healing well goes against what was being said/seen during the NCAA tournament. He was practicing with the team in Portland and the guys who write for the Bloomington paper were saying he was looking pretty mobile and even doing some drills that involved cutting.

            Also, last month Crean even had this to say about Creek's recovery:

            “I’m very optimistic based on our three weeks of offseason, put it that way,” Indiana coach Tom Crean said on Tuesday in his first offseason meeting with the media. “He’s been doing the same things that the rest of them have been doing inside of how we’ve been working on the pick and roll, off screens and working through contact. He just hasn’t been in live situations of going against his teammates.”

            Now granted practicing/drills is nothing like ready to play in a game, but the line on Creek's injury has always been that he should make a full recovery. Now, I don't expect Creek to be like the player who scored 31 against UK as a freshman, but barring a major setback he should be able to play again.

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            • jake44np
              Post Like a Champion!
              • Jul 2002
              • 9563

              #111
              Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

              Originally posted by dunnyduns
              I haven't heard/read anything recently with Maurice Creek, but the news that he isn't healing well goes against what was being said/seen during the NCAA tournament. He was practicing with the team in Portland and the guys who write for the Bloomington paper were saying he was looking pretty mobile and even doing some drills that involved cutting.

              Also, last month Crean even had this to say about Creek's recovery:

              “I’m very optimistic based on our three weeks of offseason, put it that way,” Indiana coach Tom Crean said on Tuesday in his first offseason meeting with the media. “He’s been doing the same things that the rest of them have been doing inside of how we’ve been working on the pick and roll, off screens and working through contact. He just hasn’t been in live situations of going against his teammates.”

              Now granted practicing/drills is nothing like ready to play in a game, but the line on Creek's injury has always been that he should make a full recovery. Now, I don't expect Creek to be like the player who scored 31 against UK as a freshman, but barring a major setback he should be able to play again.
              That quote makes no sense at all. He says "He’s been doing the same things that the rest of them have been doing inside of how we’ve been working on the pick and roll, off screens and working through contact. But then says "He just hasn’t been in live situations of going against his teammates.”
              How do you work on getting thru contact without any contact.
              I just read last week in the local paper that he is not where he wants to be at this time and that he looks very slow.
              I am certain he will be part of the team next year and i hope he gets back to where he was but i just dont see that happening.
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              • PhantomPain
                MVP
                • Jan 2003
                • 3512

                #112
                Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

                Originally posted by gcabaltica
                Now that VTech has finally released Montrezl Harrell from his committment, Pitino and Calipari will go at it in yet another recruiting battle along with Donovan & Gootfried with a short amount of time to make their pitch. Very athletic & 6-7 230LBS, he's going to be a great late period get for any of the aformentioned.
                I like Harrell and think he would fit in nicely with next year's team, but I don't think there is much interest from UK. Some interest, but not a lot.
                #WeAreUK

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                • Mo
                  SSN
                  • May 2003
                  • 11425

                  #113
                  Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

                  2013 PG Jalen James will reopen his recruitment and is no longer a commitment to Illinois.
                  Don't you EVER read my blog? It's gotten a lot better.

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                  • sven
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 6021

                    #114
                    Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

                    Originally posted by Mo
                    2013 PG Jalen James will reopen his recruitment and is no longer a commitment to Illinois.
                    Illinois needs to go hard after Demetrius Jackson.

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                    • BunnyHardaway
                      Banned
                      • Nov 2004
                      • 15195

                      #115
                      Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

                      Duke extended an offer to 4* SF Semi Ojeleye this weekend. That's the third or fourth wing they've offered.

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                      • bigeastbumrush
                        My Momma's Son
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 19245

                        #116
                        Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

                        PG Wayne Selden has reclassified from 2014 back to 2013.

                        Top suitors: Florida, UCLA, Ohio State, Kansas

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                        • wildcatchild
                          MVP
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 2129

                          #117
                          Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

                          Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
                          PG Wayne Selden has reclassified from 2014 back to 2013.

                          Top suitors: Florida, UCLA, Ohio State, Kansas
                          Kentucky is also listed on both his Scout and Rivals profile. He was teammates with Nerlens Noel. I think we have a shot at him. Will come down to who Cal wants between him, James Young, Troy Willams, Jabari Parker, and the Harrison twins. Obviously won't have room for all of them.
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                          • redsrule
                            All Star
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 9396

                            #118
                            Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

                            Think the biggest targets for UK are the Harrison twins and Parker. Maybe Young too.
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                            • wildcatchild
                              MVP
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 2129

                              #119
                              Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

                              Originally posted by redsrule
                              Think the biggest targets for UK are the Harrison twins and Parker. Maybe Young too.
                              I read somewhere that the Harrison twins are very pouty. If so, they better cut the whining if they want to play for Cal...he won't put up with that crap.

                              On the other hand, I've heard Parker is a coach's dream. Would love to see him be our next #1 draft pick.
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                              • redsrule
                                All Star
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 9396

                                #120
                                Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

                                Originally posted by wildcatchild
                                I read somewhere that the Harrison twins are very pouty. If so, they better cut the whining if they want to play for Cal...he won't put up with that crap.

                                On the other hand, I've heard Parker is a coach's dream. Would love to see him be our next #1 draft pick.
                                If anyone can handle the ego's and them pouting coming into college as hyped freshman, it is Cal.

                                Heard the same about them too, haven't heard anything about Parker good or bad.
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