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  • sven
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    #91
    Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

    Originally posted by jake44np
    The article below is pretty cool on why kids are going to Indiana now and not Purdue.
    I know this kid is a highly touted kid for the 2015 class but we dont have a 2015 recruiting thread yet. He basically says the facilties are like night and day between IU and Purdue. Its amazing how IU is getting most everyone they want from Indiana now and were not the last few years. They have 4 coming in this year and have verbals for 3 or 4 for each of the next few years.

    http://www.insidethehall.com/2012/05...fficial-visit/
    I kind of like that their recruiting classes a pretty much full before Beilein even starts offering scholarships. It allows us to go after who we actually want pretty much unmolested.

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    • jake44np
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      #92
      Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

      Originally posted by sven
      I kind of like that their recruiting classes a pretty much full before Beilein even starts offering scholarships. It allows us to go after who we actually want pretty much unmolested.
      Except for the players that IU has already signed/verballed.
      Crean has already received Verbals from most all of the better players from Indiana for the next few years.
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      • lonewolf371
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        #93
        Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

        Originally posted by jake44np
        Except for the players that IU has already signed/verballed.
        Crean has already received Verbals from most all of the better players from Indiana for the next few years.
        IU's always going to get better classes because they have more money and have had more success.

        That being said Purdue definitely has the better 2013 class at the moment.
        NFL: Indianapolis Colts (12-6)
        NBA: Indiana Pacers (42-13)
        MLB: Cincinnati Reds (0-0)
        NHL: Detroit Red Wings (26-20-12)
        NCAA: Purdue Boilermakers (FB: 1-11, BB: 15-12), Michigan Wolverines (FB: 7-6, BB: 19-7, H: 15-10-3)

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        • jake44np
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          #94
          Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

          Originally posted by lonewolf371
          IU's always going to get better classes because they have more money and have had more success.

          That being said Purdue definitely has the better 2013 class at the moment.
          I wouldnt say definitely.
          Rivals has Purdue at 4 and IU at 6th nationally. But there are 2 more top 50 players considering IU and no more considering Purdue so IU could easily pass them. Pretty impressive by Crean if you take into consideration the 2012 class he just got. He is still getting all these players from 2013 even with the 5 guys he is bringing in for 2012.

          2013 recruit Stanford Robinson out of Virginia is a top 50 recruit, he was in Bloomington on Monday and loved IU. Also word is Byron Zeiler who is a 6'8"PF was in town a week ago and he said he is leaing toward IU. He is ranked #38 by rivals and scout. Adding these two to our 2013 class will easily pass Purdue.
          Last edited by jake44np; 05-16-2012, 09:45 AM.
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          • sven
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            #95
            Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

            If Michigan can pull in Reggie Cameron for 2013 I will be extremely happy with our 2013 class. I'm already pretty happy with the class.

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            • lonewolf371
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              #96
              Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

              Originally posted by jake44np
              I wouldnt say definitely.
              Rivals has Purdue at 4 and IU at 6th nationally. But there are 2 more top 50 players considering IU and no more considering Purdue so IU could easily pass them. Pretty impressive by Crean if you take into consideration the 2012 class he just got. He is still getting all these players from 2013 even with the 5 guys he is bringing in for 2012.

              2013 recruit Stanford Robinson out of Virginia is a top 50 recruit, he was in Bloomington on Monday and loved IU. Also word is Byron Zeiler who is a 6'8"PF was in town a week ago and he said he is leaing toward IU. He is ranked #38 by rivals and scout. Adding these two to our 2013 class will easily pass Purdue.
              Yeah if you get Robinson then that will change things. Of course at this point every extra commitment IU takes means someone on the team gets kicked off (i.e. Maurice Creek doesn't get to battle back from injuries).

              But if you don't get Robinson (and from your board it sounds like the only way that happens is if you can't make room), then IU currently has around a bottom of the top 25 class where Purdue has a bottom of the top 15 class. Other teams simply haven't started filling up yet.
              NFL: Indianapolis Colts (12-6)
              NBA: Indiana Pacers (42-13)
              MLB: Cincinnati Reds (0-0)
              NHL: Detroit Red Wings (26-20-12)
              NCAA: Purdue Boilermakers (FB: 1-11, BB: 15-12), Michigan Wolverines (FB: 7-6, BB: 19-7, H: 15-10-3)

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              • dunnyduns
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                #97
                Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

                Originally posted by lonewolf371
                Yeah if you get Robinson then that will change things. Of course at this point every extra commitment IU takes means someone on the team gets kicked off (i.e. Maurice Creek doesn't get to battle back from injuries).

                But if you don't get Robinson (and from your board it sounds like the only way that happens is if you can't make room), then IU currently has around a bottom of the top 25 class where Purdue has a bottom of the top 15 class. Other teams simply haven't started filling up yet.
                Stanford Robinson committed to Indiana tonight. I have no clue how Crean is going to make room for all these commitments. Robinson is number 4 for the class of 2013 and Robinson said he will start recruiting his AAU teammate Beejay Anya to IU. So, It seems like Crean isn't done recruiting for the class of 2013. With Robinson IU has 14 players on the roster as of right now for the 2013-2014 season and that's not including Maurice Creek getting a 5th year.

                The scholarship situation for next year isn't even settled with 13 scholarships for 15 players even though Roth is most likely not coming back. Still that leaves 14 players for 13 scholarships. I don't know how that's going to work out.
                Last edited by dunnyduns; 05-16-2012, 11:42 PM.

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                • jake44np
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                  #98
                  Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

                  Originally posted by dunnyduns
                  Stanford Robinson committed to Indiana tonight. I have no clue how Crean is going to make room for all these commitments. Robinson is number 4 for the class of 2013 and Robinson said he will start recruiting his AAU teammate Beejay Anya to IU. So, It seems like Crean isn't done recruiting for the class of 2013. With Robinson IU has 14 players on the roster as of right now for the 2013-2014 season and that's not including Maurice Creek getting a 5th year.

                  The scholarship situation for next year isn't even settled with 13 scholarships for 15 players even though Roth is most likely not coming back. Still that leaves 14 players for 13 scholarships. I don't know how that's going to work out.
                  For this coming year it will work out ok, Roth will not be back and Holloway is more than likely going to attend a Prep school next year.He hasnt qualified academically yet and needs to attend a prep school for a year. For the following year lets just wait and see what happens. Watford, Hulls, and Elston will all graduate and be gone. Also who is to say Creek stays healthy next year? Any more injuries to his knees and he will be done anyway.
                  They will have plenty of schollys for the 2013 class then.
                  By the way adding Robinson has moved IU up to #2 on some of the scouting services board for the 2013 class.
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                  • jake44np
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                    #99
                    Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

                    Originally posted by lonewolf371
                    Yeah if you get Robinson then that will change things. Of course at this point every extra commitment IU takes means someone on the team gets kicked off (i.e. Maurice Creek doesn't get to battle back from injuries).

                    But if you don't get Robinson (and from your board it sounds like the only way that happens is if you can't make room), then IU currently has around a bottom of the top 25 class where Purdue has a bottom of the top 15 class. Other teams simply haven't started filling up yet.
                    No one is getting kicked off the team. lol
                    Creek will be back next year and have a chance to battle back from his injuries.
                    Not sure where you are getting they have a bottom of the top 25 class. lol
                    Before even signing Robinson every recruiting site out there had them top 10 easily if not top 5. Now with Robinson and BeeJay Anya more than likely to following they will be #1 or #2.
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                    • lonewolf371
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                      #100
                      Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

                      Originally posted by jake44np
                      No one is getting kicked off the team. lol
                      Creek will be back next year and have a chance to battle back from his injuries.
                      Not sure where you are getting they have a bottom of the top 25 class. lol
                      Before even signing Robinson every recruiting site out there had them top 10 easily if not top 5. Now with Robinson and BeeJay Anya more than likely to following they will be #1 or #2.
                      Well someone has to go early in order to make room. That's a fact, you can't really sell it any other way. And like the other poster said, you're still looking to add more.

                      The only reason for IU's high ranking is because no one else had filled up their class. Right now IU has the #88, #93, #97, and #103 player on Rivals. Look at the 2012 team rankings; every team above Florida (#20) had a top 60 player. Once all the top 20 players start committing a lot of schools will move ahead of IU and Purdue.
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                      NBA: Indiana Pacers (42-13)
                      MLB: Cincinnati Reds (0-0)
                      NHL: Detroit Red Wings (26-20-12)
                      NCAA: Purdue Boilermakers (FB: 1-11, BB: 15-12), Michigan Wolverines (FB: 7-6, BB: 19-7, H: 15-10-3)

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                      • jake44np
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                        #101
                        Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

                        Originally posted by lonewolf371
                        Well someone has to go early in order to make room. That's a fact, you can't really sell it any other way. And like the other poster said, you're still looking to add more.

                        The only reason for IU's high ranking is because no one else had filled up their class. Right now IU has the #88, #93, #97, and #103 player on Rivals. Look at the 2012 team rankings; every team above Florida (#20) had a top 60 player. Once all the top 20 players start committing a lot of schools will move ahead of IU and Purdue.
                        Getting 5 (BeeJay will sign) of the top 100 players in the country=one of the best classes in the country, trust me. For the 2012 class they were ranked #5 and had the #19, #41, #43, and #141 ranked players in the country. Heck they were ranked #3 on scout for 2012.

                        And i am not selling anything, read my post above. They will have plenty of openigs after this year. Let me break it down for you.
                        Below is there roster for next year. Scholly players only, notice they have 13.
                        The following year they will lose 4 seniors, right now they have signed 4 recruits.
                        If they sign a 5th the will be one over. Keep in mind Zeller could leave and be a lottery pick after next year. Also they will have a ton of very talented players.I am guessing atleast one will leave because they will not play much and will want to go somewhere they can play. They really have a very tough problem, that is having so much talent.

                        1 Jordan Hulls 6-0 181 Guard sr Bloomington, Ind.
                        2 Christian Watford 6-9 225 Forward sr. Birmingham, Ala.
                        3 Maurice Creek 6-5 195 Guard sr. Oxon Hill, Md.
                        4 Victor Oladipo 6-5 214 Guard jr. Hyattsville, Md.
                        10 Will Sheehey 6-6 200 Forward jr. Stuart, Fla.
                        13 Austin Etherington 6-6 198 Forward so. Cicero, Ind.
                        23 Remy Abell 6-3 195 Guard so. Louisville, Ky.
                        32 Derek Elston 6-9 225 Forward sr. Tipton, Ind.
                        40 Cody Zeller 6-11 230 Forward so. Washington, Ind.
                        Peter Jurkin FR
                        Yogi Ferrell FR
                        Hanner Perea FR
                        Ron Patterson FR (Prep school next year)
                        Jeremy Holloway FR
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                        • dunnyduns
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                          #102
                          Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

                          Originally posted by jake44np
                          Getting 5 (BeeJay will sign) of the top 100 players in the country=one of the best classes in the country, trust me. For the 2012 class they were ranked #5 and had the #19, #41, #43, and #141 ranked players in the country. Heck they were ranked #3 on scout for 2012.

                          And i am not selling anything, read my post above. They will have plenty of openigs after this year. Let me break it down for you.
                          Below is there roster for next year. Scholly players only, notice they have 13.
                          The following year they will lose 4 seniors, right now they have signed 4 recruits.
                          If they sign a 5th the will be one over. Keep in mind Zeller could leave and be a lottery pick after next year. Also they will have a ton of very talented players.I am guessing atleast one will leave because they will not play much and will want to go somewhere they can play. They really have a very tough problem, that is having so much talent.

                          1 Jordan Hulls 6-0 181 Guard sr Bloomington, Ind.
                          2 Christian Watford 6-9 225 Forward sr. Birmingham, Ala.
                          3 Maurice Creek 6-5 195 Guard sr. Oxon Hill, Md.
                          4 Victor Oladipo 6-5 214 Guard jr. Hyattsville, Md.
                          10 Will Sheehey 6-6 200 Forward jr. Stuart, Fla.
                          13 Austin Etherington 6-6 198 Forward so. Cicero, Ind.
                          23 Remy Abell 6-3 195 Guard so. Louisville, Ky.
                          32 Derek Elston 6-9 225 Forward sr. Tipton, Ind.
                          40 Cody Zeller 6-11 230 Forward so. Washington, Ind.
                          Peter Jurkin FR
                          Yogi Ferrell FR
                          Hanner Perea FR
                          Ron Patterson FR (Prep school next year)
                          Jeremy Holloway FR
                          I haven't read anything about any of next years recruits going to a prep school. From what I have read all 5 plan on being in Bloomington this summer. Things could change and one could end up going the prep school route to free up a scholarship for next year, but I don't expect it.

                          The rumor going around earlier this week was a possible transfer of a current player, but as that's just a rumor right now, so I'm going to wait until something becomes official before believing it.

                          Inside The Hall has a great chart which shows IU's scholarship numbers for the next couple years. http://www.insidethehall.com/scholarship-numbers/
                          Last edited by dunnyduns; 05-17-2012, 02:06 PM.

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                          • jake44np
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                            #103
                            Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

                            Originally posted by dunnyduns
                            I haven't read anything about any of next years recruits going to a prep school. From what I have read all 5 plan on being in Bloomington this summer. Things could change and one could end up going the prep school route to free up a scholarship for next year, but I don't expect it.

                            The rumor going around earlier this week was a possible transfer of a current player, but as that's just a rumor right now, so I'm going to wait until something becomes official before believing it.

                            Inside The Hall has a great chart which shows IU's scholarship numbers for the next couple years. http://www.insidethehall.com/scholarship-numbers/
                            I am certain it will all work itself out, like i said some guys will come in and not play much and want to transfer. Also like i said its a good problem to have when you have so much talent that talented kids cant get on the court. 3 years ago we would have killed for any of these kids.
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                            • dunnyduns
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                              #104
                              Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

                              Originally posted by jake44np
                              I am certain it will all work itself out, like i said some guys will come in and not play much and want to transfer. Also like i said its a good problem to have when you have so much talent that talented kids cant get on the court. 3 years ago we would have killed for any of these kids.
                              Yeah, I'm not going to worry about it as I trust Crean and obviously he knows your only allowed 13 scholarship players. So, since he's still recruiting for the class of 2013 he must know things will be changing with the team in regards to players going pro or even being unhappy/homesick/grades/whatever and may transfer.

                              The one thing I will take from this though is that I'm going to make sure and enjoy every second I get to watch Zeller in a IU uniform this season. It starting to seem to me that this will most likely be his final season at IU as it seems like the staff is even preparing for that. Especially if IU lands Beejay Anya who I think IU has to be the frontrunner for considering Crean just hired an assistant with ties to the DC area, Stanford Robinson being his AAU teammate, and Beejay Anya himself saying that Victor Oladipo is like a brother to him.

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                              • gcabaltica
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                                #105
                                Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

                                Now that VTech has finally released Montrezl Harrell from his committment, Pitino and Calipari will go at it in yet another recruiting battle along with Donovan & Gootfried with a short amount of time to make their pitch. Very athletic & 6-7 230LBS, he's going to be a great late period get for any of the aformentioned.

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