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  • Rockie_Fresh88
    Lockdown Defender
    • Oct 2011
    • 9621

    #61
    Re: Defensive Settings Completely Removed from Next-Gen.

    Originally posted by vannwolfhawk
    Interesting… Tell me about this flex choice? So you can call 2 POE at a time which would somewhat be the equivalent of my scenario above? BTW I'm watching your live stream now…

    Edit: if anyone wants to watch his live stream its right her…

    http://www.twitch.tv/jw55_nba2k
    You have 3 POE in total.
    1 Offensive
    1 Defensive
    1 Flex (choice whether offensive or defensive)

    It's set to auto by default .

    You have options such as running offense through a certain player and keying in defensively on another player . If I recall You can limit transition, fastbreak, crash boards , pick n roll offense etc... Too
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    • vannwolfhawk
      MVP
      • Jun 2009
      • 3412

      #62
      Re: Defensive Settings Completely Removed from Next-Gen.

      Originally posted by mars5541
      You have 3 POE in total.
      1 Offensive
      1 Defensive
      1 Flex (choice whether offensive or defensive)

      It's set to auto by default .

      You have options such as running offense through a certain player and keying in defensively on another player . If I recall You can limit transition, fastbreak, crash boards , pick n roll offense etc... Too
      To be honest I kind of like this. I would like to hear a dev break this down though. Unless I missed it this is a type of new addition to the game I think they should have a in depth insight on and breaking it down. After watching JW's live stream I could see this in play a little bit and the flex option seems to be the key. Id still like to see the manual option at least for PNR defense in though as far as hedging. I guess this does eliminate the always play tight cheese you would see everyone do online though.

      I would just like more info on this...
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      • 2_headedmonster
        MVP
        • Oct 2011
        • 2251

        #63
        Re: Defensive Settings Completely Removed from Next-Gen.

        If you choose a certain defensive poe, other defensive options might not be present. I can't remember off the top of my head which settings clash.

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        • JasonWilliams55
          MVP
          • Jul 2012
          • 2045

          #64
          Re: Defensive Settings Completely Removed from Next-Gen.

          I halted the stream, got some things to do real quick, but I'll pick up the same game from halftime.

          JR Smith was killing me in that stream tho...

          Also you cannot have "limit outside shots" and "nothing inside" at the same time.
          "Most people would learn from their mistakes if they weren't so busy denying them"

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          • vannwolfhawk
            MVP
            • Jun 2009
            • 3412

            #65
            Re: Defensive Settings Completely Removed from Next-Gen.

            Originally posted by 2_headedmonster
            If you choose a certain defensive poe, other defensive options might not be present. I can't remember off the top of my head which settings clash.
            Like if you used lockdown paint POE with pressure shooter as your flex those 2 would just cancel each other out?
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            • vannwolfhawk
              MVP
              • Jun 2009
              • 3412

              #66
              Re: Defensive Settings Completely Removed from Next-Gen.

              Originally posted by JasonWilliams55
              I halted the stream, got some things to do real quick, but I'll pick up the same game from halftime.

              JR Smith was killing me in that stream tho...

              Also you cannot have "limit outside shots" and "nothing inside" at the same time.
              You just answered my last question as I was typing it…

              Ya, it is nice to watch a game with sim style play. The game looks good although I hate that camera angle you play on! LOL
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              • JasonWilliams55
                MVP
                • Jul 2012
                • 2045

                #67
                Re: Defensive Settings Completely Removed from Next-Gen.

                Originally posted by vannwolfhawk
                Like if you used lockdown paint POE with pressure shooter as your flex those 2 would just cancel each other out?
                2K DEVS NEED TO ADDRESS THE POEs IN DEPTH!
                "Most people would learn from their mistakes if they weren't so busy denying them"

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                • vannwolfhawk
                  MVP
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 3412

                  #68
                  Re: Defensive Settings Completely Removed from Next-Gen.

                  Originally posted by JasonWilliams55
                  2K DEVS NEED TO ADDRESS THE POEs IN DEPTH!
                  AGREED!

                  So, watching your live stream you had lockdown or pressure shooters on can't remember name of POE. Every time it was a drive and kick to a wide open shooter that was killing you because the defender over helped when you had it on pressure shooters. Barnagni, Anthony, JR Smith all had wide open jumpers of a simple drive and dish because your CPU AI defender was way to far off his man. So it makes me wonder effect of that POE? Shouldn't it have the opposite results?
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                  • alabamarob
                    MVP
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 3352

                    #69
                    Re: Defensive Settings Completely Removed from Next-Gen.

                    poe alone is not enough van.

                    It allows a good user or the cpu to manipulate the defense once you know your opponents poe. Anyone who wants to test this out should play against the clippers on hof sim. Chris paul will dribble around in circles until a defender sags and then he will either throw an oop or pass for a corner three pointer.

                    As time passes and people get more familiar with the game a good user will know how to trigger help and get an open shot at will. It has turned me into a 50 percent off ball defender because I know when the sag will trigger so I switch to that defender to prevent the open look.
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                    • JasonWilliams55
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 2045

                      #70
                      Re: Defensive Settings Completely Removed from Next-Gen.

                      Originally posted by alabamarob
                      poe alone is not enough van.

                      It allows a good user or the cpu to manipulate the defense once you know your opponents poe. Anyone who wants to test this out should play against the clippers on hof sim. Chris paul will dribble around in circles until a defender sags and then he will either throw an oop or pass for a corner three pointer.

                      As time passes and people get more familiar with the game a good user will know how to trigger help and get an open shot at will. It has turned me into a 50 percent off ball defender because I know when the sag will trigger so I switch to that defender to prevent the open look.
                      Yes, I can see it already, this could have been remedied by lowering help defense coaching slider.
                      "Most people would learn from their mistakes if they weren't so busy denying them"

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                      • vannwolfhawk
                        MVP
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 3412

                        #71
                        Re: Defensive Settings Completely Removed from Next-Gen.

                        Originally posted by JasonWilliams55
                        Yes, I can see it already, this could have been remedied by lowering help defense coaching slider.
                        Out of curiosity what was your help defense at in that game? 80 and above?
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                        • JasonWilliams55
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 2045

                          #72
                          Re: Defensive Settings Completely Removed from Next-Gen.

                          Originally posted by vannwolfhawk
                          Out of curiosity what was your help defense at in that game? 80 and above?
                          as said in stream chat, no coaching profiles to change during game, only options are tempo, run plays and 1 other coaching slider.
                          "Most people would learn from their mistakes if they weren't so busy denying them"

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                          • vannwolfhawk
                            MVP
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 3412

                            #73
                            Re: Defensive Settings Completely Removed from Next-Gen.

                            Originally posted by JasonWilliams55
                            as said in stream chat, no coaching profiles to change during game, only options are tempo, run plays and 1 other coaching slider.
                            Yea thanks for clarifying i was confused… I get what you were saying now. I told Chris on twitter the combo of both of these would be awesome. BTW he said he's gonna try and get a dev to chime in on their live feed and breakdown POE's for us.
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                            • Jano
                              You Dead Wrong
                              • May 2004
                              • 3161

                              #74
                              Re: Defensive Settings Completely Removed from Next-Gen.

                              Hey JasonWilliams what's the link to your stream? Be good to see one of the more knowledgeable 2K players at work?

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                              • vannwolfhawk
                                MVP
                                • Jun 2009
                                • 3412

                                #75
                                Re: Defensive Settings Completely Removed from Next-Gen.

                                Originally posted by Jano
                                Hey JasonWilliams what's the link to your stream? Be good to see one of the more knowledgeable 2K players at work?

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