NBA 2K15 New Shot Meter Explained

[thedream2k13]

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Ok so if i understand this properly. A certain player has a meter with a central release point that is considerd perfect.The players atrributes, type of shot, and ammount of defensive presense effect the timing windows of said shot, but there is still a central release? (Maybe a small window).Seems based on this, guys with poor shot selection can still master thier perfect release timing? I would have hoped this central release would be staggerd to the left or right based on what direction your heading, and or what side the defender is on/closing out contesting from.Disrupting the hold your shot for .82 seconds mastery and adding a more cognitive mastery. (A mid range kobe running fading leaner has a differnt time ing stagger going left or right) then having to ajust that for where the defener is. I believe skill Should be a Big part of the game but it shouldnt overide intelligence and bball iq.If i want to master every type of shot window with a great scorer taking into account the defense or lack there of i SHOULD be able to shoot a high fg% (64ish is highh) lets face it luck is factor in real nba shooting too (however small) but widen the gap in game and add a level of awareness even for shooting. This rant was bassed off my optimism for the new meter mixxed with my frustration of playing park and vs. Online in 14' especially park guys shooting 85% from 3 contested or not

Just get and take open shots from spots on the floor your player shoots a high % and had good enough ratings to hit from. Meter measures success chance only

[City_foxx]

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Thats not how i understand it. The meter only effects how big or small your timing windows. I always take smart shots, im just worried about losing to the guys who are timing masters' and take ******** shots

[Goffs]

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Thats not how i understand it. The meter only effects how big or small your timing windows. I always take smart shots, im just worried about losing to the guys who are timing masters' and take ******** shots

ugh...I know these types....they don't even need a meter since they know the shot animation by heart. They basically know when to release visually and it's usually money....

[LorenzoDC]

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I watched a few descriptions of this. Here's how I understand it.

Last year, shot success probability was based first off your player's shot rating, then modified by other success factors related to the shot, such as if it was contested, degree of difficulty based on the type of shot, shot timing, etc.

So the baseline was set by the shooter's overall rating. In that scenario, if the dice roll was for a miss right from the beginning, the rest didn't matter, so even if you were taking an open uncontested 12 footer with your shooting guard whose mid range rating was 90, you could still miss more often than would happen in real life because the system wouod not recognize how easy the shot is once the initial dice roll was for a miss.

This year, the formula is reversed. The system first assesses how "easy" the shot is based on whether it's contested, the type of shot, etc. for the situation on the floor. Based on that, it will set how wide the timing is for the shot success window. So easy shots have a wider window, harder shots have a smaller one. Then the calculations about player attributes and the nature of shot difficulty kick in. The results should be more realistic.

So this new system should supposedly cut down on the freakish shots that should never be attempted, let alone made, going down for points, because the success probability will be calculated at the front end based on the shot situation on the floor, before player ratings kick in. And on the flip side, it should make it more common to make those wide open easy shots at a more reliable rate that player make when they are free and clear and in reasonably close range.

It's all in the implementation, but that's how I understand it.

[City_foxx]

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I watched a few descriptions of this. Here's how I understand


This year, the formula is reversed. The system first assesses how "easy" the shot is based on whether it's contested, the type of shot, etc. for the situation on the floor. Based on that, it will set how wide the timing is for the shot success window. So easy shots have a wider window, harder shots have a smaller one. Then the calculations about player attributes and the nature of shot difficulty kick in. The results should be more realistic

It's all in the implementation, but that's how I understand it.

this cant be 100 percent accurate. Beluba himself posted that ' shoot the same 3 with perkens and curry, currys windo would be much larger....meaning the attribues are apart of the equation for determing windo size. Dont get me wrong i think this system will be much better for the game. Just dont think it will be the perfect fix were hoping for. If i cant have perfection id be content with progress =)

[Sundown]

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Shot fatigue needs to be more evident on contested shots than wide open shots

This would be a great adjustment. And makes more sense then "I've been shooting open shots, but I am le tired."

[bls]

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I'm still not really understanding this shot meter. Online I've hit many shots on early and late releases. And also see my opponents hit some ridiculously shots with good defense on them.

To me I get the idea that this meter doesn't matter at all due to the types of shots that go on. Seems more random than SKILL to me.

[2_headedmonster]

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its said to be more forgiving online....

[bls]

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Just tested out this shot meter on superstar Sim in freestyle mode. Its a guaranteed make on a green release every time.

[GhostfaceDr1llah]

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Can anyone get a perfect release with Kyle Korver while attempting a three on superstar sim??? I'm dying to know because it seems almost impossible and he's suppose to be one of the best shooters in the nba. However, I am able to get a perfect release when shooting a mid range but when I attempt a three I'm ALWAYS a hair away from a perfect release, only getting it after A LOT of attempts

[kingamomgstmen]

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For all you who don't get the player attributes matter when it comes to the shot they take the perfect release is how close you come to his optimal output for the shot based on the conditions.

What I don't understand is that we have this shot fatigue but you only fatigue there seems to be no replenishing it. Example I make it a point to be the leading scorer on my team I get it I won't make every shot but when I take 25 shots the first half until I "Fatigue" I should be able to take at least 10 more the next half without getting a D+ on a open jump shot on the fast break. I honestly think that driving should take more of a hit then jump shots being towards the end of the game things get less physical because you have players are tired and thus look for those easy open jump shots.

[recon0321]

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I'm sorry guys but the shot meter is a disaster. I've been playing since the first 2K was released on the Dreamcast. This gives the feeling of trying to satisfy the meter rather than allowing us to enjoy playing the game, with very little room for error. My player has a 90 rating on all aspects of shooting, and I will release a shot right in front of the white line, almost a perfect shot, and will get a B/C and miss while being wide open. Due to the way NBA 2Ks simulation is designed, attempting to get a perfect timed shot in order to score is close to impossible. I would much rather focus on releasing at the top of my shot instead of looking at my players feet to score. I say this because different shot situations change your release factor, then you have to focus on a meter. In my opinion this has ruined the fluid mechanics of the 2K series for me. I also don't like the idea of knowing that if I get a "green" shot it's going to go in, that has taken away the element of surprise when the player shoots. I can tell you that if you are anywhere off of the white shot meter line you are more than likely going to miss. Some have claimed it's more forgiving online, why is that? Poor idea to make the game more realistic. The original poster of this thread says this can be turned off, does anyone know how on the 360?

[yhpmE]

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I'm sorry guys but the shot meter is a disaster. I've been playing since the first 2K was released on the Dreamcast. This gives the feeling of trying to satisfy the meter rather than allowing us to enjoy playing the game, with very little room for error. My player has a 90 rating on all aspects of shooting, and I will release a shot right in front of the white line, almost a perfect shot, and will get a B/C and miss while being wide open. Due to the way NBA 2Ks simulation is designed, attempting to get a perfect timed shot in order to score is close to impossible. I would much rather focus on releasing at the top of my shot instead of looking at my players feet to score. I say this because different shot situations change your release factor, then you have to focus on a meter. In my opinion this has ruined the fluid mechanics of the 2K series for me. I also don't like the idea of knowing that if I get a "green" shot it's going to go in, that has taken away the element of surprise when the player shoots. I can tell you that if you are anywhere off of the white shot meter line you are more than likely going to miss. Some have claimed it's more forgiving online, why is that? Poor idea to make the game more realistic. The original poster of this thread says this can be turned off, does anyone know how on the 360?

You can turn the shot meter off.

[Blzer]

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I'm sorry guys but the shot meter is a disaster. I've been playing since the first 2K was released on the Dreamcast. This gives the feeling of trying to satisfy the meter rather than allowing us to enjoy playing the game, with very little room for error. My player has a 90 rating on all aspects of shooting, and I will release a shot right in front of the white line, almost a perfect shot, and will get a B/C and miss while being wide open. Due to the way NBA 2Ks simulation is designed, attempting to get a perfect timed shot in order to score is close to impossible. I would much rather focus on releasing at the top of my shot instead of looking at my players feet to score. I say this because different shot situations change your release factor, then you have to focus on a meter. In my opinion this has ruined the fluid mechanics of the 2K series for me. I also don't like the idea of knowing that if I get a "green" shot it's going to go in, that has taken away the element of surprise when the player shoots. I can tell you that if you are anywhere off of the white shot meter line you are more than likely going to miss. Some have claimed it's more forgiving online, why is that? Poor idea to make the game more realistic. The original poster of this thread says this can be turned off, does anyone know how on the 360?

You can turn the shot meter off.

Ummm....

For the record, I don't have the game so I don't know this answer, but I imagine it's either within the gameplay or presentation settings.

[Oldsmobile19]

I love 2K been playing for years. The concept of the shot meter is pretty awesome. I have been playing on Hall of Fame and it is basicly impossible to make open jump shots with anybody. I have played 10 games so far and I think had 3 perfect releases. Wide open shots off by a smidget from the center will end up being misses 9.9 times out of 10. It has also changed the way I play because every jump shot I find myself staring at the meter and not the actual shot animation. Best of both worlds here you can turn the option off which is good and also keep it on be challenged if you would like to. I am not complaining just wanted to add in some input.