Less than three weeks before release...

[shogunbowling]

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I don't see how the problems get overlooked on this site year after year. Perfect examples are the canned " getting dunked on animation" and the ridiculous cpu Centers keeping up with Pgs on the short amount of gameplay we have seen.

[thedream2k13]

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We should all damn well know by now,given 2Ks history, the gameplay will be the exact same as last year with a few new canned animations. Hell, the new stuff they have announced Isn't even new. They bring association back, and added gameface, which EA has had for years. This game franchise has turned into Madden bball.

I think is vacation time for you. You troll 2k but praising live. Its clear u don't know the new rules around here

[HowDareI]

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I don't see how the problems get overlooked on this site year after year. Perfect examples are the canned " getting dunked on animation" and the ridiculous cpu Centers keeping up with Pgs on the short amount of gameplay we have seen.

It says you joined in 2011 but you acting like you just got here yesterday.

You named stuff people have been critical about for years now, just because people don't bring it up every single topic is because it's been talked about enough.

And you clearly don't understand, the ones who are the hardest on 2K are the ones who want it to be the best because we love the game. We like what they been doing, plus we haven't seen enough gameplay to be complaining like you.

[DukeBlue213]

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I don't see how the problems get overlooked on this site year after year. Perfect examples are the canned " getting dunked on animation" and the ridiculous cpu Centers keeping up with Pgs on the short amount of gameplay we have seen.

I hate to break this to you but there will never be perfect gameplay, especially for a game like basketball.

I think 2K is taking the right steps to give us the best game possible with the resources they have. They have showed us that they listen to the community without having to even show us gameplay. They removed the 1-3-1, zig zag, and charge chesses.

2k also added a great addition to the team with the new hires from the community. I'm sure will all the passion Czar has they didn't just bring him in just to sit and do nothing. You can just bring Czar in and tell him to leave his Sim and Spacing at the front door.

2k is leaps and bounds over NBA Live, who has been in the game much longer, which most of us grew up playing before we tried the new kids on the block with the Dreamcast.

I guess where I'm going with this is that there is nothing wrong with voicing your opinion about what should be fixed in the game. But do so in a way that will help contribute to making the game better.

[Boilerbuzz]

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Also interesting how quickly the praised OSr's who were hired have become part of the tight-lipped, non-self critical/community open corporate machine. Even the play testers "cons" video was a strange collection of marketing pros talking points. And, the only gameplay is the hidden shaky cell cam like it's a prostitution ring bust to see the game they want me to buy.

Yeah. What is that all about? Taking a job with a company that makes the kind of game you'd just dream of making. And to just be so quite just because you might lose that dream job for talking out of hand. We all know employees of companies are free to say whatever they want. Why couldn't these guys have kept their dignity and just say "no" to getting paid to do something they'd been doing for free for so long? Makes no sense to me at all.

[Boilerbuzz]

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They have more information, but the little that Live has released is more substantial. Live has released a single blog that goes over what they have been trying to do with gameplay, along with three *direct capture* clips.

2k has released no information about gameplay changes, and no direct capture clips. So while we have a ton of information about the modes and features of 2k, we have no idea how/if gameplay will be any different from last year.

In any case, we should be seeing a lot more from both sides. Neither team should get a pass.

Hold on. 2K has been pretty liberal with letting people play the game at every public event the game was available. When gameplay clips hit the web, they have let them STAY there as opposed to EA. Secondly, there has been previews and commentary about gameplay from many places. The ONLY thing you haven't seen has been direct gameplay footage from them. But you have at least 10X more 2K gameplay footage than you do with Live even if it's not "official". So, this comparison really doesn't hold up.

[Boilerbuzz]

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I typically pre-order but they're not getting my money until I see gameplay. Couldn't care less about face scanning(I don't play MyPlayer) Couldn't care less about cheerleaders. Don't care about leg sleeves or "I Promise" wristbands. I'll wait until gameplay videos go up and make a decision from there.

And when those gameplay clips go up, you'll claim nothing has changed.

This act is so old, it's pretty much expected around here. Carry on, good sir!

[Boilerbuzz]

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I never suggested that you risk your job to satisfy me. In fact, if you reviewed my comment more thoroughly, you would have noticed that I stated that I would do the exact same thing. I work as a software dev at a Fortune 500. I have plenty of insight as to how corporations function. There's a lot of red tape and legalities surrounding publicly expressed opinions. You, in effect, are somewhat muted in your ability to criticize, admit fault or critique current projects without authorization from someone that wears a suit to work, and probably doesn't even play 2K. That's the way it is, and people should not expect you to be as transparent or accessible as you may have been in the past.

Man, Deion Sanders couldn't backpedal any faster. Dude, everyone pretty much read your post that way. You need to work on your communication skills if you don't want to be misinterpreted like that. BTW, I don't know of very many people in the games industry that wear suits. Just saying.

Anyone who has worked in a corporate environment for any length of time knows that what I say is true.

Lost me here.

I don't mind being banned because the truth ruffles some feathers. This forum moderation is very corporate/political as well, I've come to realize.

Brave man. Love it. Now I'm SURE you just didn't mean to call out the mods now, right? Turn around get ready to backpedal again!

[DukeBlue213]

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Man, Deion Sanders couldn't backpedal any faster. Dude, everyone pretty much read your post that way. You need to work on your communication skills if you don't want to be misinterpreted like that. BTW, I don't know of very many people in the games industry that wear suits. Just saying.

I apologize for the tone of my post. Ever since my Achilles rupture, and assuming parental responsibilities, 2K has been my basketball vice. I take gameplay very seriously, and am frustrated by the lack of outward focus on this particular aspect of 2K15 as opposed to accessories, halftime shows, cheerleaders etc. Things that are last priority to a sim player.

That wasn't a backpedal because he has a ruptured Achilles.

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There is your gameplay

[lakers24]

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Great engine 4 years ago. Hey, if you're happy with 2ks gameplay, I'm happy for you. Me personally, see them adding gimmicky things and ignoring huge gameplay problems every year, and just betting this year is no different. But for me me to mention the similarities to Madden, and laughing at the obvious, is simply fanboy blindness, which is rampant on this site for 2K, for reasons unbeknownst to me.

And there it goes. You instantly resort to calling it "fanboy blindness" because I'm not sitting here mad with you?

Dueces, lol

[Mr.Smif]

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There is your gameplay

Nice box out animations between Howard and the other guy.

[lvnba]

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Looks like Steven Adams. Also, I don't know if it is an illusion but the sizing of the players looks much better.

[Goffs]

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There is your gameplay

James Harden needs his sig reach ins and have his def awareness to 0
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[swac07]

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Hmm. I want to preference this by saying I am not at all familiar with you or the work you may have done to benefit this community. So I will address this once and be done with it.

All I do know is that you have been a member here for less than 24 hours and yet you feel compelled to judge those who have in some cases been apart of, and served this community for over 10 years.

I don't know if you have ever held a job or been apart of a successful team ?

That is not a dig, I am clarifying that I don't know these things.

What your suggesting is that we disregard company policy or team rules to benefit or lift up ourselves so that we can in essence, keep it real.

I know of nothing that destroys a team quicker than throwing your teammates under the bus to save one's own reputation.

I know of no better way to lose a job and gainful employment than disregarding the rules that you gave your word(honor,integrity) to uphold.

We are a team. Marketing does it's thing. I don't have to agree and I don't with how we are currently sharing information on what we worked on this year.

However this is my team and I'm riding with them. They have had a hand in helping the game reach it's current status.

With you being a member for such a short period of time maybe you didn't read that thread or see those post's ?

Maybe you didn't catch Leftos and Davez going to work answering questions and continuing to improve the product based on user negative reactions to some of the things that either were not done or not included in the original design.

Maybe you didn't catch Leftos 2.5 hour interview on what a terrific team environment and exactly how anti corporate machine Visual Concepts is as a company. ( In corporate environments in gaming Engineers don't usually "get" to design)

Maybe you haven't seen Beds answering and listening to solid critique of the new ratings system. Or myself responding to those who didn't like what they viewed in AI vs AI game-play video's released thus far.

Maybe you haven't seen me tell guys the AI will not always be fantastic, we still have a lot of work to do etc. All responses to negative feedback on things we actually have an impact on.

If in fact you haven't seen these things occur does not mean that they have not or will not continue to. But please understand it is not our job or a requirement for us to either be here or answer anything.

For the individuals you called out, this is our home. We come here everyday ANYWAY. We respect those who put so much love and attention into making the game that we make even better.

So much so that we value their opinion enough to implement suggestion from here directly into our specific area's of influence at every moment possible. (It is not always possible).

Things that have been brought up that we can't address for 15 have already been tabled for discussion on their merits and feasibility for 16.

This is what we, whom you so easily judged,are bringing to the table for OUR community. On top of the extra hours and dedication that we know anyone else here would put in if given the same opportunity.

And regarding your second post no one who fit's into your description of OSr's works on the online portion of the game and I dam sure won't publicly slander those who are busting their *** on that side of the game just to satisfy... You.

This is written with zero anger or Ill will and with all the respect, you did not deem considerate enough to give to us.

Sincerely,

OSr's now at 2k.

#SimNation #OS4Life #Don'tPlayVideoGames

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