MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

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  • Cedrik
    Rookie
    • Oct 2012
    • 107

    #31
    Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

    I have a theory as to why this maybe happening (I'm probably wrong though). Could this simply be a case of every player having the same player peak age ranges? I only say this because I remember they were hidden ratings in last gen and were basically the only ratings that controlled when a player progresses, stays the same or regresses.

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    • Midnitewaters
      Rookie
      • Jan 2015
      • 211

      #32
      Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

      Do they lose stats in all categories or just physical and ovr? Do all players lose the same amount of stats too or does potential make it slower?

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      • darkknightrises
        Banned
        • Sep 2012
        • 1468

        #33
        Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

        Originally posted by Midnitewaters
        Do they lose stats in all categories or just physical and ovr? Do all players lose the same amount of stats too or does potential make it slower?


        I don't know if potential makes it slow or not. I just now that players at 30 fall of a hill like they are 33-34 and at 28 they tend to get worse to. Just about ever player at 30 has a big drop. You should have some guys at 30 drop off by 1 other guys stay the same other guys drop off by 6 ect. Right now basicly ever guy at 30 will drop off by 4-6 points and then another 4-6 points at 31, 32 ect. Some times guys will drop off in shooting even though shooting is like the last thing to go for nba players and some times there iq goes down and guys don't get more stupid so that is just stupid lol. When I did a simulation sever times ever yes ever player at 30 or older went down other then james, Carmelo and paul and out of all the players who are 30,31 I would say like 90% of them went down by 4-6 points. I even see guys go down who are like 28 even after having a good season. I had a simulation where curry averaged a carrier high in points assest and fg% yet he at the age of 28 went down like 2 points.

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        • Midnitewaters
          Rookie
          • Jan 2015
          • 211

          #34
          Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

          I was hoping potential would make some fall off slower than other. It would also be nice if physical stats dropped but iqs went up but I havent tested enough to know.

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          • Shady Mike
            Banned
            • Nov 2014
            • 1218

            #35
            Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

            Originally posted by JA Money14
            No, LeBron James, Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook, and James Harden are superstars.

            Bogut and Lowry are incredible players and tops at their respective positions, but they are not superstars. Maybe mid-range was a bad use of words and in no way am I comparing the extremely overhyped Michael Carter-Williams to the likes of Kyle Lowry, but hopefully you get the gist.

            My point was that it is perfectly fine if a guy that averaged 10 minutes a game his entire career is gone by 30, but guys that are big time players in this league should not be gone at such an age. Guys like Michael Beasley, Steve Francis and Tracy McGrady are exceptions, not the rule.
            Not attacking you or anything like that, but I'm getting extremely tired of seeing comments like this being made. Is Michael Carter-Williams in the all-star game? No. Did anyone ever call him an all-star? No. Can he shoot the ball? No. The fact of the matter is, MCW is 6'7 a second year PASSING point guard who has been FORCED into a scoring role because of a lack of talent on his team. He does what he has too as a starting point guard in the NBA. He is the only player in the NBA averaging 15-7-6 and he's doing his best in a bad situation and trying to be a leader. He's a good passer, a great rebounder, and he plays tough opportunistic defense (almost 2 steals per game for his career).

            So no, MCW is not "overhyped" he's not overrated. He's a good young player with a bright future who is getting prepped to lead a team that is gathering assets to be a playoff contender in the future. And the OS community needs to be respectful of his unique talent, because quite frankly he's doing stuff right now that no one else in the NBA is able to do at all.

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            • annan
              Banned
              • Feb 2004
              • 355

              #36
              Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

              Originally posted by Shady Mike
              Not attacking you or anything like that, but I'm getting extremely tired of seeing comments like this being made. Is Michael Carter-Williams in the all-star game? No. Did anyone ever call him an all-star? No. Can he shoot the ball? No. The fact of the matter is, MCW is 6'7 a second year PASSING point guard who has been FORCED into a scoring role because of a lack of talent on his team. He does what he has too as a starting point guard in the NBA. He is the only player in the NBA averaging 15-7-6 and he's doing his best in a bad situation and trying to be a leader. He's a good passer, a great rebounder, and he plays tough opportunistic defense (almost 2 steals per game for his career).

              So no, MCW is not "overhyped" he's not overrated. He's a good young player with a bright future who is getting prepped to lead a team that is gathering assets to be a playoff contender in the future. And the OS community needs to be respectful of his unique talent, because quite frankly he's doing stuff right now that no one else in the NBA is able to do at all.
              Haha, ShadyMike is either MCW or his mom...

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              • JA Money14
                Banned
                • Mar 2012
                • 0

                #37
                Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

                Originally posted by Shady Mike
                Not attacking you or anything like that, but I'm getting extremely tired of seeing comments like this being made. Is Michael Carter-Williams in the all-star game? No. Did anyone ever call him an all-star? No. Can he shoot the ball? No. The fact of the matter is, MCW is 6'7 a second year PASSING point guard who has been FORCED into a scoring role because of a lack of talent on his team. He does what he has too as a starting point guard in the NBA. He is the only player in the NBA averaging 15-7-6 and he's doing his best in a bad situation and trying to be a leader. He's a good passer, a great rebounder, and he plays tough opportunistic defense (almost 2 steals per game for his career).

                So no, MCW is not "overhyped" he's not overrated. He's a good young player with a bright future who is getting prepped to lead a team that is gathering assets to be a playoff contender in the future. And the OS community needs to be respectful of his unique talent, because quite frankly he's doing stuff right now that no one else in the NBA is able to do at all.
                Dude, I am an NBA fan, so I respect all players and what they bring to the table. I refuse to put Kyle Lowry and MCW in the same category. I consider him overrated, but largely the comment was geared toward the regression issue and not my thoughts about him.

                If you disagree with me, that's cool, I am not expecting everyone to love or agree with my opinions, but I wasn't attacking him as a person or player although it may have seemed that way. I understand you're a Sixers fan so it may be easier for you to be offended at that.

                At any rate, this is wayyy off topic and if you want to continue just hit me up via PMs because this should not overtake the main point.

                You see what the regression issue is leading to, 2K? You're tearing us apart!

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                • OldHossRadbourn
                  Rookie
                  • Mar 2012
                  • 453

                  #38
                  Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

                  Has anyone tried increasing the potential of players ages 28 and over to see what that does? I know people have messed with ages and sliders but what about the potential rating?

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                  • vardano
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2013
                    • 22

                    #39
                    Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

                    In last gen game increasing of potential of players was helping players not to drop so fast after 29-30 old age. I would spend hours before the start of my association and revisit all teams with tweakering in order to have realistic outcome.

                    Right now I have a lot of projects in a real life, I don't have a time to spend on tweaking a game as I used to. Listen, this is does not seem like one hell of problem for devs to fix and I don't want to wait one year more for a next title which just probably will change this design decision of current which breaks all fun for me of two mods in game which I enjoy most.

                    I really want to see some kind of reply from 2k team.

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                    • ronyell
                      SimWorld Sports Inc - CEO
                      • Dec 2005
                      • 5932

                      #40
                      Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

                      Originally posted by JA Money14
                      Dude, I am an NBA fan, so I respect all players and what they bring to the table. I refuse to put Kyle Lowry and MCW in the same category. I consider him overrated, but largely the comment was geared toward the regression issue and not my thoughts about him.

                      If you disagree with me, that's cool, I am not expecting everyone to love or agree with my opinions, but I wasn't attacking him as a person or player although it may have seemed that way. I understand you're a Sixers fan so it may be easier for you to be offended at that.

                      At any rate, this is wayyy off topic and if you want to continue just hit me up via PMs because this should not overtake the main point.

                      You see what the regression issue is leading to, 2K? You're tearing us apart!
                      Doesn't matter... By current status MCW will not be on a MyLeague roster in 4 years due to progression/regression
                      SIMWORLD HOOPS - JOIN, DISCUSS or WATCH
                      THE ONLY PLACE WHERE YOU CAN:
                      #SeeTheGameBeTheGame

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                      • CWSapp757
                        SimWorld Draft Class Guru
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 4652

                        #41
                        Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

                        Originally posted by Shady Mike
                        Not attacking you or anything like that, but I'm getting extremely tired of seeing comments like this being made. Is Michael Carter-Williams in the all-star game? No. Did anyone ever call him an all-star? No. Can he shoot the ball? No. The fact of the matter is, MCW is 6'7 a second year PASSING point guard who has been FORCED into a scoring role because of a lack of talent on his team. He does what he has too as a starting point guard in the NBA. He is the only player in the NBA averaging 15-7-6 and he's doing his best in a bad situation and trying to be a leader. He's a good passer, a great rebounder, and he plays tough opportunistic defense (almost 2 steals per game for his career).

                        So no, MCW is not "overhyped" he's not overrated. He's a good young player with a bright future who is getting prepped to lead a team that is gathering assets to be a playoff contender in the future. And the OS community needs to be respectful of his unique talent, because quite frankly he's doing stuff right now that no one else in the NBA is able to do at all.
                        You are asking people (on the Internet I may add)... to be respectful of MCW's unique talent? People bash Lebron James (the best player on the planet) on a daily basis and you are asking people to be respectful to MCW? Good luck on that campaign my friend.

                        Anyways, add me to the list of people that are still aggravated with this issue. As someone said, I don't think it is a bug because I truly believe that this is how they intended things to work. I think that they thought that this system would work. It does not.
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                        • nickthemajin
                          Rookie
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 298

                          #42
                          Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

                          Originally posted by CWSapp757
                          You are asking people (on the Internet I may add)... to be respectful of MCW's unique talent? People bash Lebron James (the best player on the planet) on a daily basis and you are asking people to be respectful to MCW? Good luck on that campaign my friend.

                          Anyways, add me to the list of people that are still aggravated with this issue. As someone said, I don't think it is a bug because I truly believe that this is how they intended things to work. I think that they thought that this system would work. It does not.

                          Just to play Devils advocate here. I'd say Lebron isn't the best player on the planet. Not anymore. I think that torch was passed to Anthony Davis this season.

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                          • Dreece
                            SimWorld NBA 2K Guru
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 2440

                            #43
                            Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

                            Originally posted by nickthemajin
                            Just to play Devils advocate here. I'd say Lebron isn't the best player on the planet. Not anymore. I think that torch was passed to Anthony Davis this season.
                            This has nothing to do with the OP. Please let's stay on topic please. This is a MAJOR issue to us hardcore My League players and it would be nice if we can have an adult conversation in this thread without it getting derailed by nonsense. #SimWorld
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                            • annan
                              Banned
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 355

                              #44
                              Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

                              Should we start a thread on the 2k forums?

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                              • Shady Mike
                                Banned
                                • Nov 2014
                                • 1218

                                #45
                                Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

                                Originally posted by nickthemajin
                                Just to play Devils advocate here. I'd say Lebron isn't the best player on the planet. Not anymore. I think that torch was passed to Anthony Davis this season.
                                There was some guy who averaged 32-7-5 last year, can't remember his name though.

                                Originally posted by Dreece
                                This has nothing to do with the OP. Please let's stay on topic please. This is a MAJOR issue to us hardcore My League players and it would be nice if we can have an adult conversation in this thread without it getting derailed by nonsense. #SimWorld
                                The regression issue sucks and I hope it gets fixed.
                                Last edited by Shady Mike; 01-09-2015, 02:20 AM.

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