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  • 24ct
    Pro
    • Sep 2012
    • 884

    #166
    Re: NBA 2K16 Digital Short - Stephen Curry: Beyond the Shadows

    Originally posted by MikeGSW
    You're on here talking about it. Their marketing strategy is working. People are talking. Wondering. Anticipating.

    Every year people doubt them. Every year they crush it. Those same people buy it. And we do the whole dance all over again 9 months later.
    Lol dog what do you even know about marketing? Really...

    I'm only talking about it because it's the only thing(news) to talk about. Their is a such thing as bad marketing. This isn't free press we're talking about. They spent money to make this commercial.

    Either way just because I'm 'talking about it' doesn't mean I'm anticipating anything. I know 2k16 is gonna be the same game as last year. I'm smart enough to realize the only way the game changes is if they really strip it from the ground up. It's gonna be the same animation heavy game with 1 on 1 mocap scenarios playing out in animations which doesn't look good to me anymore. Personally...

    And the past 2 years 2K has been extremely lackluster dog. Especially considering these are current gen games on a new system. The graphics were cool but the game played exactly the same. You say they crushed it but I seriously beg to differ.

    This isn't just me disappointed they don't release info. The game has regressed since 2K14. 2K15 is a terrible game IMO. The AI and story in myCareer is terrible. The online play is terrible.

    I'm not just gonna say a game is good just because they drop it. I've been playing since Dreamcast. The 1st NBA 2K.

    They're not showing the game because it's the same thing. If you like it cool but I'm not buying that they have broken any new ground. And that's cool, you can't please everybody. If you like it that's cool but I haven't really enjoyed the PS4 2Ks. 2k was the main reason I bought a PS4.

    Ppl saying everyone buys the game knows the reason. It's the only competent basketball game. 2k is using that to their advantage. But when Live was out and actually worth buying 2K dropped news way earlier. I actually plan on getting Live this year because I anticipate 2k being lackluster again...

    Thanks for your input tho...

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    • 24ct
      Pro
      • Sep 2012
      • 884

      #167
      Re: NBA 2K16 Digital Short - Stephen Curry: Beyond the Shadows

      Originally posted by ClevelandinDistress
      NBA 2k just isn't bringing it anymore. Maybe I'm getting old but the games just don't have that charisma and passion inserted into the gameplay anymore. It's like they've taken all their heart and soul and stuffed it into all the Myplayer stuff. The last time I was impressed was with the announcement of NBA2k14 and the Phil Collins trailer. I have only been underwhelmed from that point on. The graphics fidelity, lighting, emotion, have taken steps backwards and once I got a taste of those graphics there was just no going back for me. If you think I'm making this up, search James Harden 2k14 and compare him to the recently released 2k16 screenshot.

      The way they bring out info for this game is fine. But their focus is 90% on all the fluffy teenager stuff that makes them money. It's like this game is being made for 10 year old kids who purchase myteam coins and not the true sim heads. Oh but there's Da_Czar and Mike Wang and all the other guys who are in this for us! That's what you say, I feel their muzzle has been tightened and their interaction is way down. Instead of seeing more gameplay content because they're happy to show it off, it's like they do it now just to satisfy the few old heads still around making up the final 10% of their marketing campaign.

      I cringe just thinking about the annoying 2k stream with Ronnie where they play exclusively in the park and talk about hair styles and clothing options. I loath the days when Gold pack this and Silver Pack that, Rare Edition here, rare edition there, are focal point in their discussions.

      I just want my grassroots contender NBA 2K back. Fame has made my favorite game turn into a gold digger. No longer is she the cute innocent summer fling, now she's the used up, cakeface lady strutting her stuff all over Broadway.
      Bruh. This is exactly what I'm talking about.

      Especially the last part lol. Good post dude. Not everybody is impressed with what 2k is doing.

      Every time I join a party ppl complain about the SAME stuff. Sliding. No control due to animations. Etc etc. Even tho they play it. It's because it's the only basketball game to play. Not because it's so good. It USED to be so good. Now it's the only option to try.

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      • MikeGSW
        Banned
        • Oct 2014
        • 861

        #168
        Re: NBA 2K16 Digital Short - Stephen Curry: Beyond the Shadows

        Originally posted by 24ct
        Lol dog what do you even know about marketing? Really...

        I'm only talking about it because it's the only thing(news) to talk about. Their is a such thing as bad marketing. This isn't free press we're talking about. They spent money to make this commercial.

        Either way just because I'm 'talking about it' doesn't mean I'm anticipating anything. I know 2k16 is gonna be the same game as last year. I'm smart enough to realize the only way the game changes is if they really strip it from the ground up. It's gonna be the same animation heavy game with 1 on 1 mocap scenarios playing out in animations which doesn't look good to me anymore. Personally...

        And the past 2 years 2K has been extremely lackluster dog. Especially considering these are current gen games on a new system. The graphics were cool but the game played exactly the same. You say they crushed it but I seriously beg to differ.

        This isn't just me disappointed they don't release info. The game has regressed since 2K14. 2K15 is a terrible game IMO. The AI and story in myCareer is terrible. The online play is terrible.

        I'm not just gonna say a game is good just because they drop it. I've been playing since Dreamcast. The 1st NBA 2K.

        They're not showing the game because it's the same thing. If you like it cool but I'm not buying that they have broken any new ground. And that's cool, you can't please everybody. If you like it that's cool but I haven't really enjoyed the PS4 2Ks. 2k was the main reason I bought a PS4.

        Ppl saying everyone buys the game knows the reason. It's the only competent basketball game. 2k is using that to their advantage. But when Live was out and actually worth buying 2K dropped news way earlier. I actually plan on getting Live this year because I anticipate 2k being lackluster again...

        Thanks for your input tho...

        Blah blah blah. People say this every year and every year they prove them wrong. Innovate and improve. Every damn year.

        Don't like it? Don't buy it. But we all know you will. Because they all do. In the end.

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        • kolanji
          Pro
          • Sep 2009
          • 872

          #169
          Re: NBA 2K16 Digital Short - Stephen Curry: Beyond the Shadows

          Originally posted by ClevelandinDistress
          NBA 2k just isn't bringing it anymore. Maybe I'm getting old but the games just don't have that charisma and passion inserted into the gameplay anymore. It's like they've taken all their heart and soul and stuffed it into all the Myplayer stuff. The last time I was impressed was with the announcement of NBA2k14 and the Phil Collins trailer. I have only been underwhelmed from that point on. The graphics fidelity, lighting, emotion, have taken steps backwards and once I got a taste of those graphics there was just no going back for me. If you think I'm making this up, search James Harden 2k14 and compare him to the recently released 2k16 screenshot.

          The way they bring out info for this game is fine. But their focus is 90% on all the fluffy teenager stuff that makes them money. It's like this game is being made for 10 year old kids who purchase myteam coins and not the true sim heads. Oh but there's Da_Czar and Mike Wang and all the other guys who are in this for us! That's what you say, I feel their muzzle has been tightened and their interaction is way down. Instead of seeing more gameplay content because they're happy to show it off, it's like they do it now just to satisfy the few old heads still around making up the final 10% of their marketing campaign.

          I cringe just thinking about the annoying 2k stream with Ronnie where they play exclusively in the park and talk about hair styles and clothing options. I loath the days when Gold pack this and Silver Pack that, Rare Edition here, rare edition there, are focal point in their discussions.

          I just want my grassroots contender NBA 2K back. Fame has made my favorite game turn into a gold digger. No longer is she the cute innocent summer fling, now she's the used up, cakeface lady strutting her stuff all over Broadway.

          yea i know exactly what u mean cause i feel the same way...lets face it we are not the cool kids anymore...would love to see nba 2k broken down into two like forza with the arcade version developed by another studio while the sim heads like us get to keep our none playing MC stats loving realistic defensive minded manager making team running games to ourselves
          Last edited by kolanji; 08-10-2015, 05:40 PM.
          Humans fear what they dont understand, hate what they cant concur i guess its just the theory of man

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          • MikeGSW
            Banned
            • Oct 2014
            • 861

            #170
            Re: NBA 2K16 Digital Short - Stephen Curry: Beyond the Shadows

            Oh and sorry to disappoint. But if they've got you talking about it and got you watching all their videos etc and coming on here... well. The marketing works. Simple as that.

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            • jbthegreat
              Rookie
              • Sep 2010
              • 148

              #171
              Originally posted by WaddupCouzin
              JBtheGreat:

              Are you still on the fence about the game? Like most on here, I am Dreamcast Era 2K player, so I plop my money down and wait for the goodies. I'm confident that I'm going to be getting a good product, if that confidence wanes for some reason then I'll revisit my decision, but 45 days isn't that long to wait, plus they'll be a slew of information within the next 6 weeks. As MIKEGSW has said repeatedly in this thread, this is about par for course. The only thing missing was the crazy German guys playing at Gamescom... Lol.

              I pre-ordered my game last month, so I'm waiting for September 24th.

              Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk
              I was never on the fence. I have confidence in 2k. I just don't understand their marketing strategy. Would it hurt them to release info and footage sooner? Like why is there a low res bootleg gamescom clip floating around? Why didn't they just release the trailer they shot for Gamescom? Who does this benefit/hurt?

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              • MikeGSW
                Banned
                • Oct 2014
                • 861

                #172
                Re: NBA 2K16 Digital Short - Stephen Curry: Beyond the Shadows

                Originally posted by redsox4evur
                That would never happen and I can't see how that would be a good thing.
                Lol. It would be awesome. None of this waiting around.

                And they would sell like mad. It would have to be an established brand.

                If Rockstar dropped that GTA V trailer 24 hours before the game came out and nobody had known about it... man. World would've went crazy. Hype would've been unreal.

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                • lakers24
                  MVP
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 2013

                  #173
                  Re: NBA 2K16 Digital Short - Stephen Curry: Beyond the Shadows

                  Originally posted by kolanji
                  Why are you surprised ppl didnt notice....we are only basketball gamers in here.....we are not OS CSI or detectives. ...u working with the bureau man....naw just kidding bro good obsevation..but when i look at Curry u can clearly see his hair style is not 2k15 cause i have checked loading up 2k15 and his hair is shorter.....but again i could be wrong cause am not with the bureau

                  In these pics what i do not like is why still players hands always have this spirit finger look with their fingers spread apart. ....look at Bogut or lebron hands to see what am talking about
                  That's the new scan for Curry, I just didn't list him since we all know he's been scanned for 2k16 just like AD and Harden.

                  As for the fingers, I believe it's a couple of things: 1. Whenever I see 2k do motion capture the phalanges usually don't have anything on them to capture their movement. 2. They never seem to have motion captured off ball defense stances which contribute to the players having "videogame" like movements.
                  PSN - QfRmCpT

                  https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8D...Y0FbPFHI6e-Wpg

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                  • King_B_Mack
                    All Star
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 24450

                    #174
                    Re: NBA 2K16 Digital Short - Stephen Curry: Beyond the Shadows

                    Only real issues I have with the 2K marketing is the lame over teases for months on end with no real meat to chew on for a while and the moving away of how video game marketing used to be.

                    Remember back in the days when you could pick up a gaming magazine and get a write up on the upcoming sports titles. It'd be like the July or August issue and there'd be a few screenshots and a decent preview on the modes and a few gameplay improvements and by the time the last month came around, you could find even more videos of full games being played online. This whole thing of putting everything off until the last 2-4 weeks is a little bit annoying. Especially since during that 2-4 weeks we still don't get info released every day. It's like Monday you'll get something, then Friday. Not the end of the world, but it's a little off putting what the marketing cycle has turned into. At least this year they've toned down the announcement of announcement hyping and receipt re-tweeting.

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                    • lakers24
                      MVP
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 2013

                      #175
                      Re: NBA 2K16 Digital Short - Stephen Curry: Beyond the Shadows

                      The receipt retweeting is definitely coming
                      PSN - QfRmCpT

                      https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8D...Y0FbPFHI6e-Wpg

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                      • Junior Moe
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 3869

                        #176
                        Re: NBA 2K16 Digital Short - Stephen Curry: Beyond the Shadows

                        I like the trailer. As others have said, not enough to chew on. Curry's shot was beautiful, though.

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                        • lakers24
                          MVP
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 2013

                          #177
                          Re: NBA 2K16 Digital Short - Stephen Curry: Beyond the Shadows

                          New observation (i'm turning into the only OS CSI I see lol): The crowd now has ball tracking. It's really noticeable during Curry's 3.
                          PSN - QfRmCpT

                          https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8D...Y0FbPFHI6e-Wpg

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                          • MoneyOvaHuds
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2014
                            • 3491

                            #178
                            Re: NBA 2K16 Digital Short - Stephen Curry: Beyond the Shadows

                            Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                            9.99 music album and 59.99 video game is a wee bit different there man lol.

                            $16 bucks *

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                            • jbthegreat
                              Rookie
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 148

                              #179
                              Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                              Only real issues I have with the 2K marketing is the lame over teases for months on end with no real meat to chew on for a while and the moving away of how video game marketing used to be.

                              Remember back in the days when you could pick up a gaming magazine and get a write up on the upcoming sports titles. It'd be like the July or August issue and there'd be a few screenshots and a decent preview on the modes and a few gameplay improvements and by the time the last month came around, you could find even more videos of full games being played online. This whole thing of putting everything off until the last 2-4 weeks is a little bit annoying. Especially since during that 2-4 weeks we still don't get info released every day. It's like Monday you'll get something, then Friday. Not the end of the world, but it's a little off putting what the marketing cycle has turned into. At least this year they've toned down the announcement of announcement hyping and receipt re-tweeting.
                              Is that too much to ask for.

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                              • 2_headedmonster
                                MVP
                                • Oct 2011
                                • 2251

                                #180
                                Re: NBA 2K16 Digital Short - Stephen Curry: Beyond the Shadows

                                Originally posted by kel16harris
                                [ATTACH]104168[/ATTACH] old footage?? Steph doesn't have on the ankle supports that he did in the free throw routine snippet

                                Sent from my SHIELD using Tapatalk
                                i hate that they added elevation to his jumpshot to slow it down.

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