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  • ClevelandinDistress
    Pro
    • Mar 2011
    • 547

    #226
    Re: NBA 2K16 Digital Short - Stephen Curry: Beyond the Shadows

    Originally posted by Da_Czar
    I read stuff like this and I just shake my head men. Name another dev on any dev team with a weekly show discussing NBA hoops and video games ? Just becuase you don't see us don't mean we not here.

    Muzzle ?
    And that's the problem Da_Czar, everything has to be a produced flashy fireworks show for us to get any info. Just taking a look at Mike Wang twitter account @beluba will tell you all you need to know. He used to answer questions about gameplay, little teasers about new signature animations etc etc. Now he just retweets NBA Jordan Edition pictures and says "he's too busy for Twitter."
    It's like you guys don't even have to try and impress us anymore. I miss the Ben Wallace trash talking in your face commercials. I miss NBA 2k having that raw edge. Now the whole environment is just power cream soft stuff. Even the environment in this forum is way weaker. I used to remember getting excited to jump on the forums and see what was up. Now it's just disappointment and shorter thread pages.

    Just seeing a whole crew of 30 guys with state of the art cameras hanging around Spike Lee and the Lululemon ping pong ball dudes crushes my heart. This game has gone Hollywood. You can't say that doesn't affect gameplay because it's still a video game and the universe is connected. I don't want or need any of that. Even if it was the best mode or storyline ever, just the thought that NBA 2K has turned into this alternate reality Hollywood reality TV show storyline campaign crushes my heart. The whole vibe of this game has gone soft, catering to the masses. Sure, it makes you guys money, but it also gives me the impression that the NBA 2K I knew and played since 2k5 is long gone.

    #bringbacktheoldschoolvibe
    #Wheniversonwasonthecover


    #bethestory?

    Maaan,i just wanna play a solid basketball game without the flashy glitter or balloons. I don't need to be anything. Especially not a story.

    Don't even get me started on 2ktv as well. Something nobody asked for and definitely something people really don't care about. I want to feel like I'm playing a video game. This weird mixture of live action only further removes me from the video game world and I start to notice anything that isn't lifelike. I know it sounds weird, but I can't be the only one.

    For me, 2k's marketing tactics border on the annoying. So much so that when something impressive actually does get revealed, I'm already out of that optimal hype zone. I feel sorry for you Da_Czar and all the other gameplay guys. You're second fiddle now to all the other fluffy material they push out for a few solid months to generate pre-orders. Your opportunity to market the game has been diminished, cast away, sent into the basement of the NBA 2k headquarters in California.

    I really don't think it's an age thing either. Sure, I'm in my late 20s now, but I can honestly say my 17 year old self wouldn't have been excited after watching this "Beyond the Shadows" over produced over hyped disappointment of a video.

    Does anyone else miss written content? Info you could actually sink your teeth into? I know I do! Paragraphs and paragraphs of in depth breakdowns of all the improvements and changes to the game. I don't need an edited produced video with Spike Lee. Just give me a few paragraphs, some screenshots, and I'll be just chilling back here like "Cool. Real cool."
    Last edited by ClevelandinDistress; 08-11-2015, 01:33 AM.
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    • 2_headedmonster
      MVP
      • Oct 2011
      • 2251

      #227
      Re: NBA 2K16 Digital Short - Stephen Curry: Beyond the Shadows

      Originally posted by Da_Czar
      I read stuff like this and I just shake my head men. Name another dev on any dev team with a weekly show discussing NBA hoops and video games ? Just becuase you don't see us don't mean we not here.

      Muzzle ?
      i have my complaints, but im confident they're the result of design decisions or oversight and not the result of content disconnected developers. I wouldnt waste my time voicing issues otherwise...

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      • MikeGSW
        Banned
        • Oct 2014
        • 861

        #228
        Re: NBA 2K16 Digital Short - Stephen Curry: Beyond the Shadows

        Yeah. 2k marketing sucks.

        Now watch them sell another 6 million copies.

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        • Da_Czar
          NBA 2K Gameplay Producer, Offensive AI System - SIM NATION
          • Jul 2002
          • 5408

          #229
          Re: NBA 2K16 Digital Short - Stephen Curry: Beyond the Shadows

          Originally posted by ClevelandinDistress
          And that's the problem Da_Czar, everything has to be a produced flashy fireworks show for us to get any info. Just taking a look at Mike Wang twitter account @beluba will tell you all you need to know. He used to answer questions about gameplay, little teasers about new signature animations etc etc. Now he just retweets NBA Jordan Edition pictures and says "he's too busy for Twitter."
          It's like you guys don't even have to try and impress us anymore. I miss the Ben Wallace trash talking in your face commercials. I miss NBA 2k having that raw edge. Now the whole environment is just power cream soft stuff. Even the environment in this forum is way weaker. I used to remember getting excited to jump on the forums and see what was up. Now it's just disappointment and shorter thread pages.

          Just seeing a whole crew of 30 guys with state of the art cameras hanging around Spike Lee and the Lululemon ping pong ball dudes crushes my heart. This game has gone Hollywood. You can't say that doesn't affect gameplay because it's still a video game and the universe is connected. I don't want or need any of that. Even if it was the best mode or storyline ever, just the thought that NBA 2K has turned into this alternate reality Hollywood reality TV show storyline campaign crushes my heart. The whole vibe of this game has gone soft, catering to the masses. Sure, it makes you guys money, but it also gives me the impression that the NBA 2K I knew and played since 2k5 is long gone.

          #bringbacktheoldschoolvibe
          #Wheniversonwasonthecover


          #bethestory?

          Maaan,i just wanna play a solid basketball game without the flashy glitter or balloons. I don't need to be anything. Especially not a story.

          Don't even get me started on 2ktv as well. Something nobody asked for and definitely something people really don't care about. I want to feel like I'm playing a video game. This weird mixture of live action only further removes me from the video game world and I start to notice anything that isn't lifelike. I know it sounds weird, but I can't be the only one.

          For me, 2k's marketing tactics border on the annoying. So much so that when something impressive actually does get revealed, I'm already out of that optimal hype zone. I feel sorry for you Da_Czar and all the other gameplay guys. You're second fiddle now to all the other fluffy material they push out for a few solid months to generate pre-orders. Your opportunity to market the game has been diminished, cast away, sent into the basement of the NBA 2k headquarters in California.

          I really don't think it's an age thing either. Sure, I'm in my late 20s now, but I can honestly say my 17 year old self wouldn't have been excited after watching this "Beyond the Shadows" over produced over hyped disappointment of a video.

          Does anyone else miss written content? Info you could actually sink your teeth into? I know I do! Paragraphs and paragraphs of in depth breakdowns of all the improvements and changes to the game. I don't need an edited produced video with Spike Lee. Just give me a few paragraphs, some screenshots, and I'll be just chilling back here like "Cool. Real cool."

          That video wasn't for you guys. That was for the casuals. LOL.
          Catch me on that #SimNation #SimHangOut Friday's @ 10:00 pm est https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...N7yxMiElOpMl_B

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          • 2k gamer all day
            Banned
            • Jul 2015
            • 316

            #230
            Re: NBA 2K16 Digital Short - Stephen Curry: Beyond the Shadows

            Hope we get something new tonight at twitch broadcast ......

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            • iLLWiLL
              MVP
              • Jul 2002
              • 3560

              #231
              Re: NBA 2K16 Digital Short - Stephen Curry: Beyond the Shadows

              Originally posted by MikeGSW
              Seriously has anyone noticed how it's the same people (Ill, wii etc) that complain the loudest and start **** in every thread?


              HO-LY crap. I have arrived. Thank you for the shout-out, kid

              I'm not going to bring up my 2K buying history. Look through my recent post history to find out. I have yet to be warned about "trolling" so I would think that my comments have not been out of bounds. Quite frankly I think we voice our assessments in a fair manner, and you don't agree with them so you do the easiest thing and label it "trolling" ...
              Last edited by iLLWiLL; 08-11-2015, 02:05 AM.

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              • MikeGSW
                Banned
                • Oct 2014
                • 861

                #232
                Re: NBA 2K16 Digital Short - Stephen Curry: Beyond the Shadows

                Originally posted by iLLWiLL
                HO-LY crap. I have arrived. Thank you for the shout-out, kid

                I'm not going to bring up my 2K buying history. Look through my recent post history to find out. As for your comment earlier that you aren't on 2k's nuts ...
                I don't care about your buying history buddy. You would be a fool not to buy 2k because it's the superior product.

                BUT I've seen the way you conduct yourself on the Live forums. You're definitely a huge Live fan. Your bias is clear.

                And explain how I'm on 2ks nuts? Be specific. I admire a great game and that's what they put out every year. Is it flawed? Of course. Is there room for improvement? Definitely. The cheesy exploits, the terrible defense, strange animations you get trapped in etc etc. BUT in spite of those things. It's still one of the best sports games (and one of the best games in general) on a yearly basis.

                Just because I can see the past the flaws and appreciate the stuff it does right doesn't mean I'm on their nuts. You take any sign of positive reinforcement towards them or any sort of compliment to the game at all as homerism. Smh. It's moronic.

                On the flip side I will happily discuss the pros and cons of both games.

                What I do is constructive criticism. What you do is criticism. There's a difference.

                Don't worry though. Keep trolling. At least it's passing the time. September 25th is so close... and yet so far.


                Edit: did a 2min search. Didn't take long to find proof of your Live fanboyism. I get it. There's nothing wrong with being a live fan just quit pretending youre not. And stop letting it cloud your judgement. I don't know if it's your die hard homerism for Madden that effected this or what but it's messed up man.

                Originally posted by iLLWiLL

                I'll give your tips a try Gizmo. I'll still probably end up exchanging it for Splinter Cell.....I'm content sticking with the original NBA Live 95, still the BEST BBALL GAME EVER!!!
                Last edited by MikeGSW; 08-11-2015, 02:15 AM.

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                • ClevelandinDistress
                  Pro
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 547

                  #233
                  Re: NBA 2K16 Digital Short - Stephen Curry: Beyond the Shadows

                  Originally posted by Da_Czar
                  That video wasn't for you guys. That was for the casuals. LOL.
                  And that's my point. We feel left out, neglected, 2nd fiddle.

                  And I ain't even dancing to that fiddle no more.
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                  • MikeGSW
                    Banned
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 861

                    #234
                    Re: NBA 2K16 Digital Short - Stephen Curry: Beyond the Shadows

                    Originally posted by ClevelandinDistress
                    And that's my point. We feel left out, neglected, 2nd fiddle.

                    And I ain't even dancing to that fiddle no more.
                    You are second fiddle to the marketing team. They want to make as much money as possible. Die hards buy it every year. It's the casuals they need to reach. 90% of the fan base are casual fans. That's where the money is.

                    But the marketing team being focused on the casual fans isn't the same as the developers being focused on that. They're probably more focused on striking a balance.

                    At the end of the day career mode is the most played mode. The reason for that is most players are casual fans. If 2k wants to make money, which they do because they're a business after all. Then they have to get the casual fans on board.

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                    • swac07
                      MVP
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 1843

                      #235
                      Re: NBA 2K16 Digital Short - Stephen Curry: Beyond the Shadows

                      One thing I will acknowledge.....I like that the devs still come around, speak, and address issues when its nothing but peace n love over here or even when the territory seems "hostile and just plain trollish"......I have to say I admire you guys' Professionalism no matter the "climate" over here.


                      "Wisdom is ALWAYS an overmatch for strength"........The Zen Master

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                      • iLLWiLL
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 3560

                        #236
                        Re: NBA 2K16 Digital Short - Stephen Curry: Beyond the Shadows

                        Originally posted by MikeGSW
                        I don't care about your buying history buddy. You would be a fool not to buy 2k because it's the superior product.

                        BUT I've seen the way you conduct yourself on the Live forums. You're definitely a huge Live fan. Your bias is clear.

                        And explain how I'm on 2ks nuts? Be specific. I admire a great game and that's what they put out every year. Is it flawed? Of course. Is there room for improvement? Definitely. The cheesy exploits, the terrible defense, strange animations you get trapped in etc etc. BUT in spite of those things. It's still one of the best sports games (and one of the best games in general) on a yearly basis.

                        Just because I can see the past the flaws and appreciate the stuff it does right doesn't mean I'm on their nuts. You take any sign of positive reinforcement towards them or any sort of compliment to the game at all as homerism. Smh. It's moronic.

                        On the flip side I will happily discuss the pros and cons of both games.

                        What I do is constructive criticism. What you do is criticism. There's a difference.

                        Don't worry though. Keep trolling. At least it's passing the time. September 25th is so close... and yet so far.


                        Meh. I edited my original post, by the way. I'm always open for debate. But 1) not now, it's after midnight and time for rest, and 2) I'm not about to waste time going back n forth with someone that's just going to resort to "You're trolling" stuff. I back up my opinions with elaboration on why I see things that way, you are welcome to disagree with it. You on the other hand, can only use words like "sucks big fat donkey balls" Guarantee you'll get a warning by the mods for that kind of talk before I do. Like I said in another post on this forum, you can always take solace in knowing that you are on a predominantly 2K fan site, and regardless of what you say, as long as it's pro-2K, you will get a crapload of 'likes' Have a good night
                        Last edited by iLLWiLL; 08-11-2015, 02:16 AM.

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                        • 23
                          yellow
                          • Sep 2002
                          • 66469

                          #237
                          Re: NBA 2K16 Digital Short - Stephen Curry: Beyond the Shadows

                          Originally posted by swac07
                          One thing I will acknowledge.....I like that the devs still come around, speak, and address issues when its nothing but peace n love over here or even when the territory seems "hostile and just plain trollish"......I have to say I admire you guys' Professionalism no matter the "climate" over here.


                          Soak it up because the comedy will be ending soon

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                          • swac07
                            MVP
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 1843

                            #238
                            Re: NBA 2K16 Digital Short - Stephen Curry: Beyond the Shadows

                            Originally posted by 23
                            Soak it up because the comedy will be ending soon
                            Oh I ALREADY know
                            Last edited by swac07; 08-11-2015, 03:31 AM.
                            "Wisdom is ALWAYS an overmatch for strength"........The Zen Master

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                            • lakers24
                              MVP
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 2013

                              #239
                              Re: NBA 2K16 Digital Short - Stephen Curry: Beyond the Shadows

                              Mannnn this thread is a mess. Don't give the people some significant gameplay to analyze and everyone becomes barbaric.
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                              https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8D...Y0FbPFHI6e-Wpg

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                              • MikeGSW
                                Banned
                                • Oct 2014
                                • 861

                                #240
                                Re: NBA 2K16 Digital Short - Stephen Curry: Beyond the Shadows

                                Originally posted by iLLWiLL
                                Meh. I edited my original post, by the way. I'm always open for debate. But 1) not now, it's after midnight and time for rest, and 2) I'm not about to waste time going back n forth with someone that's just going to resort to "You're trolling" stuff. I back up my opinions with elaboration on why I see things that way, you are welcome to disagree with it. You on the other hand, can only use words like "sucks big fat donkey balls" Guarantee you'll get a warning by the mods for that kind of talk before I do. Like I said in another post on this forum, you can always take solice in knowing that you are on a predominantly 2K fan site, and regardless of what you say, as long it's pro-2K, you will get a crapload of 'likes' Have a good night
                                I also edited my original post. As proof of your bias.

                                And the donkey balls stuff was put in there to get the mods attention. So I hope it worked. They seem to be oblivious to the subtle trolling by Live fans. Maybe if I bring it into the light they'll see what's actually going on.

                                I guarantee the majority of negative comments in this thread were made by people who align themselves more with Live. Bank on it.

                                Again. Nothing wrong with being the fan of the other game. Just don't let it cloud your judgement. We're all basketball fans at the end of the day. It should never be about this game or that game.

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