Passing is AWFUL in 2k at the moment!

[Dominant Big]

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Passing works fine. The only problem is when it decides to bounce pass for no reason during an icon pass.

[TalenT]

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I agree with most of the issues that have been mentioned in this thread so far.

Another thing that drives me crazy is that often, when you see an open man standing in a good position to score (if he kept standing exactly were he was) he starts to move once you played the pass. The result is that the player either moves behind a defending player while he tries to catch the ball and ultimately you turn it over or he ends up being in a much worse position than in the moment you pass it to him.

This is especially annoying when you see a big man open near the basket and while catching the ball he walks towards the three point line, instead of having an easy layup or dunk.

However, the main reason why passing is flawed is a lack of player movement in my eyes. If you play isolation or you can't finish a play because of the defense and decide to abort the play, the players just keep standing around instead of trying to get to an opening. It's like the game wants you to play iso ball, because in most of these situation there is not much else you can do to make a play.

OMG this drives me INSANE! Especially when the player open is a knock down 3 point shooter. I play with the Bulls and Dunleavy does this to me constantly.

[LorenzoDC]

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Thanks for your explanation LDC

Anyway you can post an example of your issues in the second half of your post next time it happens?

Not that I'm doubting you (or anyone else), just want to see an example of exactly what you mean...

EDIT: or anyone else who wants to....I'll post some of my issues/ non issues too.


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Try it yourself with Spread Rip 4 Punch. You can't pass to the top of the key without icon passing if you don't want to hit your target on the block. That's a low post play.

EDIT: Or here's two cutter plays you can see it with: Tri Base 4 Dive, Tri Top 3 Dive

[The 24th Letter]

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Try it yourself with Spread Rip 4 Punch. You can't pass to the top of the key without icon passing if you don't want to hit your target on the block.

I will actually....

again, didn't want to come off as doubting you....

I just made personal vow that this year most of my points/complaints will be made through footage, lol


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[madmax52277]

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Thanks for your explanation LDC

Anyway you can post an example of your issues in the second half of your post next time it happens?

Not that I'm doubting you (or anyone else), just want to see an example of exactly what you mean...

EDIT: or anyone else who wants to....I'll post some of my issues/ non issues too.


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Venting.......

When I do passes are playing...let me feel like I'm doing it. no automatic animations that I didn't ask for. stop with the delay plays to give chances for the defense to recover. It's no secret that the game is not based on players skills and knowledge...instead they implied cheat tactics.

I said this month's ago..games are giving and taken away not from your game style, but from animations.

High hopes for 2k16.

[LorenzoDC]

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I will actually....

again, didn't want to come off as doubting you....

I just made personal vow that this year most of my points/complaints will be made through footage, lol


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Cool, no worries, I understood.

I edited my comment while you were responding, added a couple more plays. Check them out too.

[The 24th Letter]

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Venting.......



When I do passes are playing...let me feel like I'm doing it. no automatic animations that I didn't ask for. stop with the delay plays to give chances for the defense to recover. It's no secret that the game is not based on players skills and knowledge...instead they implied cheat tactics.



I said this month's ago..games are giving and taken away not from your game style, but from animations.



High hopes for 2k16.

See this would've been a complaint for me in NBA 2K14. If a guy was riding you, you wouldn't be able to pass out of it until that sequence was over....a literal 1-2 seconds later....I just don't see much of this anymore..


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[LorenzoDC]

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See this would've been a complaint for me in NBA 2K14. If a guy was riding you, you wouldn't be able to pass out of it until that sequence was over....a literal 1-2 seconds later....I just don't see much of this anymore..


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It's reduced and a lot better now, it's true. You still get stuck a bit when your dribbler loses the handle a bit though. That's still a long animation prison. There's also cases where defender closeout to your open shooter catching the pass is way OP, but then again, that may be created in part by my slider set. After patch 4, I jacked up defense and contested shots so much to get better shooting percentages, so I probably see closeout cheese more than maybe others do now.

[Boilerbuzz]

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It's reduced and a lot better now, it's true. You still get stuck a bit when your dribbler loses the handle a bit though. That's still a long animation prison.

So what should happen if you hit "pass" while your player doesn't have a clean grasp of the ball or is stumbling? If you think people cry rivers now when passes go sailing OOB, imagine the wailing if fumbling was introduced in those situations...

[LorenzoDC]

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So what should happen if you hit "pass" while your player doesn't have a clean grasp of the ball or is stumbling? If you think people cry rivers now when passes go sailing OOB, imagine the wailing if fumbling was introduced in those situations...

No, I don't think a player should be able to pass without a handle. So to me it's a bit off topic because I don't see it as a passing issue with that animation.

I was just commenting on the general experience of losing extended control over your player in an animation. If I were to address that lost handle animation, I would either make it shorter or give the user a way to use dribbling controls to try to recover faster. Then once recovered, a pass would be possible.

[madmax52277]

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See this would've been a complaint for me in NBA 2K14. If a guy was riding you, you wouldn't be able to pass out of it until that sequence was over....a literal 1-2 seconds later....I just don't see much of this anymore..


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24..I've played 2k14 and understand what you're saying, but c'mon don't you think some of those passes are rigged. sorry I don't have no vid proof but it sure looks like a setup up to me.

I'll lay off the topic now thanks.

[Boilerbuzz]

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24..I've played 2k14 and understand what you're saying, but c'mon don't you think some of those passes are rigged. sorry I don't have no vid proof but it sure looks like a setup up to me.



I'll lay off the topic now thanks.

I think "rigged" is an unfair way to put it. Do I think the game explicitly makes you fail some situations? Absolutely. I don't think it's an accident. It's their way of telling you, "dude, you shouldn't do that". And I get it. Sometimes, I don't agree with them for sure, but I don't have a problem with the intent. People say the game doesn't punish non-sim play enough. Maybe. But the attempt is definitely there.

[The 24th Letter]

Passing is AWFUL in 2k at the moment!

I was going to follow up the same question as Boiler.....don't want to get too off topic myself..

This is where I bump heads with some guys that say they're 'stuck' in animations, there needs to be a reaction to every action (but that's a different topic all together). In no way at all should you be 'dragged' for multiple dribbles and not able to pass. That was a huge peeve for me in '14.

but I do agree with being 'punished' when properly cut off by the defense i.e the stumbling animation....I think there have to be checks and balances in place to stop things from getting too wild...I'm ok with not being able to pass right out of that.


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[The 24th Letter]

Passing is AWFUL in 2k at the moment!

24..I've played 2k14 and understand what you're saying, but c'mon don't you think some of those passes are rigged. sorry I don't have no vid proof but it sure looks like a setup up to me.



I'll lay off the topic now thanks.

When I pass to a teammate with a defender beside him and it goes directly into the defenders hands...it annoys me to no end....especially when I angled the pass to avoid that....same when the wrong trajectory is 'chosen' when I'm passing to a big down low...

Don't get me wrong max, there are issues that I have...apparently I just don't see as many as some others....the thread has honestly surprised me...


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[madmax52277]

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I think "rigged" is an unfair way to put it. Do I think the game explicitly makes you fail some situations? Absolutely. I don't think it's an accident. It's their way of telling you, "dude, you shouldn't do that". And I get it. Sometimes, I don't agree with them for sure, but I don't have a problem with the intent. People say the game doesn't punish non-sim play enough. Maybe. But the attempt is definitely there.

Your right and wrong in away....yes it does teaches you not to make bad passes, but if you have a slow defender suddenly intercept the ball that shouldn't be in the first place..that's not the skill of the user fault,