An In-Depth Look at the Changes to the NBA 2K16 Ratings System

[2_headedmonster]

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You don't pick the conference you play in, just like the Warriors didn't get to choose that every team they faced starting PG be injured....but that's how it happened.....think it's silly to try to discredit LBJs performance or the Warriors accomplishments because of either of those things....


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Ummm you do pick the conference you play in. Free agency?

Not to say he has to come to the west, but its undeniable the east is a much, much, much easier path.

[Kese86]

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It it was easy to do it would have been done already. That type of change takes years to implement. First all the realy world strategies that one' encounters in the real sport must exist in the video game realm for it to even be a possibility.

As that starts to happen it paves the way for the increase in difficulty to be more than ratings boosts.

We started that transition a bit last year. So many things have to change on many levels for a full implementation.

First off, I appreciate the response Czar and have enjoyed your work since you were breaking down plays on like 2K8 I think with the rap intro and everything lol What you said acknowledges that you guys know that this is an issue and are working to improve it, which is all I ask for. I've been playing ball for 19 years so it just gets frustrating when video game skills (cheese, exploits, op moves, etc.) equate to more success than actually knowing how to play basketball and what works in real life. Glad to know work is being done to improve in that area.

[DaKoKing]

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I'm definitely going to have to wait and see on this one. This places a ton of trust into the basketball evaluation skill of a group that I haven't ever trusted in that regard.

[ronyell]

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Guess I'll be "that guy" & i'm surprised no one else has said anything; but based on the screenshots & ratings that have dropped in the past few days... I don't see these rating changes... Gobert a 79 with Drummond being an 81?! Where is the player separation if ratings govern contracts?

I thought that there would be a distinct separation in player classes based on the OP of this thread. Not being a cynic but editing a scale looks like it'll be necessary yet again.

[stillfeelme]

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Guess I'll be "that guy" & i'm surprised no one else has said anything; but based on the screenshots & ratings that have dropped in the past few days... I don't see these rating changes... Gobert a 79 with Drummond being an 81?! Where is the player separation if ratings govern contracts?

I thought that there would be a distinct separation in player classes based on the OP of this thread. Not being a cynic but editing a scale looks like it'll be necessary yet again.

Why should there be that much distinction between these players. They are all very similar.

I guess what you are saying is Drummond should be rated much higher than Whiteside based off what? He has more potential so he should be rated higher again I am not sure what you are saying?

• Gobert 23yrs old going into 3rd NBA season still on rookie contract
• Whiteside 26yrs old going into 4th NBA season signed for less than a million most likely because he knows the cap is going up and he has a chance to really get paid when the cap goes way up
• Drummond 22yrs old going into 4th NBA season still on rookie contract

[ataman5]

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The new scale is definitely well thought of an idea i like to experience.

My thought is and has always been there should be a wider range of Overall or specific ratings from low 20's to 100 by that you will defeinitely have a better rate of differentiation between players.

Let's say on-ball defense, guys like Steve Novak has to have a 25 onball defense (i'm exagerating stuff no offense please.) but on the other hand Kawhi Leonard has to have high 80's smt. So that whenever Lebron matches with Novak you would know that Novak can't ever really hold on with LBJ on the drive etc. so this should be clearly seen. On the defensive side you see some players really let go off their defenders and never magically get back, this creates a collapse in defense and offense use it to their strenght at times and plays gets varied and you see real basketball happening and it's happening differently on every possesion with that much of difference between individuals and teams ofcourse.

There are players that can't even make one dribble only one on the run so why would they be able to they should make mistakes and stupid ones?

Players that can't shoot should not be able to hit the rim 10 out of 10 times, i'm not talking just by making or not making he shouldn't be hitting even the rim. Same applies to Free Throws why in the world we don't see airballs with players who can't shot.

Same applies to passing as well some players are that worse of a passer to pass the ball so they definitely should hit the mascot for more. More errors or beautiness has to happen with wider differentiation.

Also some guys can't dribble with left hand or right hand this should definitely be handy on outcomes when dribbling or making layups, if you know what i mean.

So i'm all for wider ranges and different outcomes, i don't want to see games get repetetive after 3 weeks. Blows have to happen, bad defenders should make your defense collapse way way easier and vice versa on offense etc.

[eko718]

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Guess I'll be "that guy" & i'm surprised no one else has said anything; but based on the screenshots & ratings that have dropped in the past few days... I don't see these rating changes... Gobert a 79 with Drummond being an 81?! Where is the player separation if ratings govern contracts?

I thought that there would be a distinct separation in player classes based on the OP of this thread. Not being a cynic but editing a scale looks like it'll be necessary yet again.

Drummond is an 83 ovr.

[cool318]

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So if we're going to compare these players to the GOAT... Kobe should be up there.

That being said, i know he just turned 37 and his form is questionable. But i should note, he led the NBA in scoring for quite sometime last season.

Kobe - 87?

Fair to me

[philly guy]

I would also call Moses Malone as the best offensive rebounder in history.

[redsox4evur]

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So if we're going to compare these players to the GOAT... Kobe should be up there.

That being said, i know he just turned 37 and his form is questionable. But i should note, he led the NBA in scoring for quite sometime last season.

Kobe - 87?

Fair to me

There's a difference between being a scorer and scoring a ton on a bad team which Kobe did. He ain't the player used to be. He should be somewhere in the low 80's. He's not an elite athlete anymore. He is coming off another leg injury. He isn't durable at all. Can't remember the last time he played more than 60 games.

[Sundown]

An In-Depth Look at the Changes to the NBA 2K16 Ratings System

So if we're going to compare these players to the GOAT... Kobe should be up there.



That being said, i know he just turned 37 and his form is questionable. But i should note, he led the NBA in scoring for quite sometime last season.



Kobe - 87?



Fair to me

Chucking at abominably low efficiency on stupid high volume isn't hard. There are plenty of players that can do that. Just few have Kobe's clout where they wouldn't get immediately benched. Plus his defense is atrocious.

80-81 is pretty generous. 82-83 if he actually starts playing with any semblance of shot selection and teamwork.

Lol. Old Kobe is not only 4 points lower than prime Durant.

[ReyTV]

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Might wanna tone it down there coach. Kobe still averaged over 20ppg last season, GIVEN, all that you said.


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[eko718]

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So if we're going to compare these players to the GOAT... Kobe should be up there.

That being said, i know he just turned 37 and his form is questionable. But i should note, he led the NBA in scoring for quite sometime last season.

Kobe - 87?

Fair to me

I'm pretty sure ratings for the 2015-2016 season will be heavily based on performance during the 2014-2015 season. The question is not the greatness of any particular player, but how do they currently measure up in each ratings category, compared to the best ever recorded statistical data for a given category.

Last year, it was said that they use a 3 year look back to develop ratings with the most recent season having the most weight, so these are not lifetime achievement ratings.

[Wildcats302]

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There's a difference between being a scorer and scoring a ton on a bad team which Kobe did. He ain't the player used to be. He should be somewhere in the low 80's. He's not an elite athlete anymore. He is coming off another leg injury. He isn't durable at all. Can't remember the last time he played more than 60 games.

Just every season in his career before the last two seasons. If you can't remember that, I guess you just don't have a great memory...which is cool.

I do not disagree with his rating in the low 80s, especially if they are changing the ratings and moving a lot of people down.

[Sundown]

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Might wanna tone it down there coach. Kobe still averaged over 20ppg last season, GIVEN, all that you said.


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While chucking. Pure PPG without regards to efficiency and attempts is about one of the least informative stats.