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  • ksuttonjr76
    All Star
    • Nov 2004
    • 8662

    #91
    Re: Blocks are ridiculous!

    Originally posted by MadManCometh
    Ur talking about things that happen every blue moon. I'm talking about things that happen 3X's per game in nba2k16.

    Hell, Corey Brewer once score 50 in a nba game to. But that don't mean he should be lebron in the game either.
    Then I'm going to tell you the same thing that I told another poster.

    If it's happening multiple times in a game, then it's probably time to take a hard look at your stick skills. You're complaining, because it's happening to YOU. You're the player making the decisions on the sticks to shoot. So, how are you really playing the game?

    I rarely get blocked by a "non shot blocker". If I get blocked, I already know that it was from me trying to sneak in the dunk or layup instead of resetting the offense.

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    • Caelumfang
      MVP
      • Oct 2012
      • 1218

      #92
      Re: Blocks are ridiculous!

      Originally posted by ksuttonjr76
      Then I'm going to tell you the same thing that I told another poster.

      If it's happening multiple times in a game, then it's probably time to take a hard look at your stick skills. You're complaining, because it's happening to YOU. You're the player making the decisions on the sticks to shoot. So, how are you really playing the game?

      I rarely get blocked by a "non shot blocker". If I get blocked, I already know that it was from me trying to sneak in the dunk or layup instead of resetting the offense.
      This. This this this this this. At the end of the day, it comes down to user shot selection. If I get blocked, 9 times out of 10 I deserved it, because I put myself in a bad position. And hell, even when I get caught unaware, I can't do anything but laugh, because the block looks so vicious that it makes you rethink your approach.

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      • MadManCometh
        Banned
        • Aug 2007
        • 459

        #93
        Re: Blocks are ridiculous!

        Originally posted by ksuttonjr76
        Then I'm going to tell you the same thing that I told another poster.

        If it's happening multiple times in a game, then it's probably time to take a hard look at your stick skills. You're complaining, because it's happening to YOU. You're the player making the decisions on the sticks to shoot. So, how are you really playing the game?

        I rarely get blocked by a "non shot blocker". If I get blocked, I already know that it was from me trying to sneak in the dunk or layup instead of resetting the offense.
        Stick skills have nothing to do with switching to Ricky Rubio and blocking dunks. Point is, which u have a hard time grasping, is that not only does this player not have the ratings to make such a play, but in real life he doesn't even really have the physical ability/athleticism to get up and block dunks. I'm I saying it's totally impossible? No. I'm saying it's extremely unlikely. Yet, players of that nature are making plays like this all the time in nba 16. Every game im seeing things of this nature happen. Ur argument seems to be based on, "anything is possibe". Which I agree, but my argument is its happening waaaaaaaaaay to often. And based on the nature of the game as it is currently, every single big in the game is a shot blocker now automatically.
        Last edited by MadManCometh; 10-08-2015, 09:53 AM.

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        • kadzier
          Rookie
          • Dec 2013
          • 494

          #94
          Re: Blocks are ridiculous!

          Originally posted by Caelumfang
          This. This this this this this. At the end of the day, it comes down to user shot selection. If I get blocked, 9 times out of 10 I deserved it, because I put myself in a bad position. And hell, even when I get caught unaware, I can't do anything but laugh, because the block looks so vicious that it makes you rethink your approach.
          And this has nothing to do with the fact that the USER can block the CPU way too consistently even with poor shot blockers, which is what actually needs to be toned down (not the CPU blocking you)

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          • Caelumfang
            MVP
            • Oct 2012
            • 1218

            #95
            Re: Blocks are ridiculous!

            Originally posted by kadzier
            And this has nothing to do with the fact that the USER can block the CPU way too consistently even with poor shot blockers, which is what actually needs to be toned down (not the CPU blocking you)
            So you want them to tune down user blocks. Do you have any sort of idea what ramifications that will have online? Like, at all?

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            • MadManCometh
              Banned
              • Aug 2007
              • 459

              #96
              Re: Blocks are ridiculous!

              The problem with nba 2k16 is the defense is just not sim. Every single game I play online, regardless of the teams, or skills seems to be a defensive based game. It can be warriors vs Lakers but it's goin to be close and a defensive battle regardless. I've place over 100 games online and I would say of the 80 wins I have at least 70 was decided by 5 points or less. It's like every body has good defense this year, regardless of teams and stick skills.

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              • MontanaMan
                MVP
                • Oct 2014
                • 1160

                #97
                Re: Blocks are ridiculous!

                Yea, nah....

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                • ksuttonjr76
                  All Star
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 8662

                  #98
                  Re: Blocks are ridiculous!

                  Originally posted by MadManCometh
                  Stick skills have nothing to do with switching to Ricky Rubio and blocking dunks. Point is, which u have a hard time grasping, is that not only does this player not have the ratings to make such a play, but in real life he doesn't even really have the physical ability/athleticism to get up and block dunks. I'm I saying it's totally impossible? No. I'm saying it's extremely unlikely. Yet, players of that nature are making plays like this all the time in nba 16. Every game im seeing things of this nature happen. Ur argument seems to be based on, "anything is possibe". Which I agree, but my argument is its happening waaaaaaaaaay to often. And based on the nature of the game as it is currently, every single big in the game is a shot blocker now automatically.
                  So, you're going to tell me that the whole time you're focused on the dunk attempt, you never ONCE noticed Rubio trailing behind you? So, Rubio caught you slipping on the dunk attempt, but it's the game's fault? Okay, that's user error.

                  On the flip side, is Rubio suppose to give you an uncontested layup/dunk attempt, or should there be some REASONABLE amount of expectation that he's going to make a play on the ball?

                  If you want to argue that there's not enough shooting fouls by non shotblockers, I can live with that. I would even say that's a fair complaint. However, to want to tone down shot blocking, because of your inability to read the defense for the best shot opportunity is ridiculous.

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                  • ksuttonjr76
                    All Star
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 8662

                    #99
                    Re: Blocks are ridiculous!

                    Originally posted by Caelumfang
                    So you want them to tune down user blocks. Do you have any sort of idea what ramifications that will have online? Like, at all?
                    They don't care...as long as he can score that's all that really matters. It's always about what the offense can't and can do to score. When the defense is able to stop it consistently, then it's a glitch or needs to be nerfed.

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                    • kadzier
                      Rookie
                      • Dec 2013
                      • 494

                      #100
                      Re: Blocks are ridiculous!

                      Originally posted by Caelumfang
                      So you want them to tune down user blocks. Do you have any sort of idea what ramifications that will have online? Like, at all?
                      just user blocks for players who have no block ratings whatsoever. Like I'm fine getting 2-3 user chasedown dunk blocks per game with a dude with 90 block rating. Not with a point guard with a 35 block rating

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                      • NDAlum
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                        • Jun 2010
                        • 11453

                        #101
                        Re: Blocks are ridiculous!

                        Oh, it's an online issue. Guess that's why I don't see it. The human element is what ruins online play (for me).
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                        • MadManCometh
                          Banned
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 459

                          #102
                          Re: Blocks are ridiculous!

                          Originally posted by ksuttonjr76
                          So, you're going to tell me that the whole time you're focused on the dunk attempt, you never ONCE noticed Rubio trailing behind you? So, Rubio caught you slipping on the dunk attempt, but it's the game's fault? Okay, that's user error.

                          On the flip side, is Rubio suppose to give you an uncontested layup/dunk attempt, or should there be some REASONABLE amount of expectation that he's going to make a play on the ball?

                          If you want to argue that there's not enough shooting fouls by non shotblockers, I can live with that. I would even say that's a fair complaint. However, to want to tone down shot blocking, because of your inability to read the defense for the best shot opportunity is ridiculous.
                          U obviously don't watch basketball. If your did u would know it doesn't matter if Rubio is trailing me. I can live with him stripping me or something, but not him blocking my shot/dunk and even yelling like he's alonzo mourning.
                          Last edited by MadManCometh; 10-08-2015, 11:05 AM.

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                          • MadManCometh
                            Banned
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 459

                            #103
                            Re: Blocks are ridiculous!

                            Originally posted by kadzier
                            just user blocks for players who have no block ratings whatsoever. Like I'm fine getting 2-3 user chasedown dunk blocks per game with a dude with 90 block rating. Not with a point guard with a 35 block rating
                            Apparently they don't watch basketball. U got ppl on here that really play basketball and watch it, and then u got users that only play it as a video game and don't know the difference from a shot blocker and non-shot blocker. What u saying makes 100% perfect sense and I get it. But u got those casual fans that don't understand the difference

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                            • kadzier
                              Rookie
                              • Dec 2013
                              • 494

                              #104
                              Re: Blocks are ridiculous!

                              Originally posted by NDAlum
                              Oh, it's an online issue. Guess that's why I don't see it. The human element is what ruins online play (for me).
                              it's definitely there offline too; like I said my guard with no block ratings is basically like Prime Mutombo in MyCareer

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                              • ksuttonjr76
                                All Star
                                • Nov 2004
                                • 8662

                                #105
                                Re: Blocks are ridiculous!

                                Originally posted by kadzier
                                just because it's based on the "fantasy" of you being an NBA player doesn't mean that the gameplay itself isn't supposed to be sim, it's the same gameplay as the rest of the game.
                                No, it's never going to be sim. Created players have maxed out stats, and I'm pretty sure users select animations that gives them the best or EASIEST chance of scoring. You can't force "sim" elements into a game mode when most of the users are not "sim" in themselves and every player on the court is a human player. That's why it irks to death when people use that mode for examples of non sim elements.

                                AI players will attempt be Sim due to the programming. Human players are all about getting the win by any means possible.

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