So This Is The NBA 2K16 Transition Defense At Its Finest

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  • Guard-ian
    Pro
    • Apr 2008
    • 612

    #61
    Re: So This Is The NBA 2K16 Transition Defense At Its Finest

    Transition defense or the easy fastbreak (it takes no skill to do it) along with the lead passes to the paint exploit (defenders don't catch/deflect them as they would in the real world) are the 2 issues cheesers are exploiting this year, it is really annoying because this take out all the greatness of this game, until that is solved (if it will be eventually), this game is not a true NBA basketball simulation... Just a run and gun unreal party.


    The first gameplay video I saw of this 2k16, that game between Ronnie and LD2K, I saw how Ronnie could keep in the game just fastbreaking at will, no basketball strategy was needed. I commented on that issue then (transition defense) but no one wanted to believe me... and here we are!!!

    Cheers!
    Ignorance is Bliss...

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    • RAPH
      Rookie
      • Oct 2012
      • 89

      #62
      Re: So This Is The NBA 2K16 Transition Defense At Its Finest

      I just lost a game because Brandon Jennings was to busy celebrating after an assist instead of getting back on defense in transition.

      I did everything I could to regain control over him but he was stuck in the celebration animation... meanwhile he gives up a basket to Ty Lawson... and I lose... smh

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      • DC
        Hall Of Fame
        • Oct 2002
        • 17996

        #63
        Re: So This Is The NBA 2K16 Transition Defense At Its Finest

        Really bothered how effective cheesers get a head a steam AFTER a made bucket. It is upsetting man
        Concrete evidence/videos please

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        • YDBoUnCe
          Rookie
          • Oct 2009
          • 184

          #64
          Re: So This Is The NBA 2K16 Transition Defense At Its Finest

          Originally posted by DC
          Really bothered how effective cheesers get a head a steam AFTER a made bucket. It is upsetting man
          I often resort to fouling in the back court before an outlet in the rare occasion that I get the opportunity. It forces the other player to run a half court offense and most dudes can't. Half court offense to them means pass, pump fake, look for the dunk.

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          • The 24th Letter
            ERA
            • Oct 2007
            • 39373

            #65
            Re: So This Is The NBA 2K16 Transition Defense At Its Finest

            Originally posted by DC
            Really bothered how effective cheesers get a head a steam AFTER a made bucket. It is upsetting man

            Even worse after a made free throw



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            • Hustle Westbrook
              MVP
              • Jan 2015
              • 3113

              #66
              Re: So This Is The NBA 2K16 Transition Defense At Its Finest

              Originally posted by YDBoUnCe
              I often resort to fouling in the back court before an outlet in the rare occasion that I get the opportunity. It forces the other player to run a half court offense and most dudes can't. Half court offense to them means pass, pump fake, look for the dunk.

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              Whenever someone throws the inbound pass now I just call a double team and try to trap them on the sideline to try and force a turnover or at the very least give my teammates some time to get back on defense.
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              • jfsolo
                Live Action, please?
                • May 2003
                • 12965

                #67
                Re: So This Is The NBA 2K16 Transition Defense At Its Finest

                I want to start MyLeague when the regular season begins, but this issue and the lack of physicality and ball denial against players in the paint before they get the ball is just too much. The extra sucky thing is that we know that the XBOX One will get the gameplay patch 1 to 3 weeks after the PS4 so it could be December before some of us see these things resolved.
                Jordan Mychal Lemos
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                Do this today: Instead of $%*#!@& on a game you're not going to play or movie you're not going to watch, say something good about a piece of media you're excited about.

                Do the same thing tomorrow. And the next. Now do it forever.

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                • jbl33333
                  Rookie
                  • Oct 2015
                  • 50

                  #68
                  Re: So This Is The NBA 2K16 Transition Defense At Its Finest

                  I was playing a game and obtained exactly the footage that this thread speaks of:






                  Literally these happened almost back to back off of dead balls.

                  Am I doing something wrong here? This is cheese if I've ever seen it before. I know Garnett is 80 years old but damn, my mom could have done a better job sticking to the defensive assignment. Garnett just slowly trots down the floor forgetting he is supposed to guard someone. My POEs are even set to Limit Transition/Protect the Paint and I always ensure fatigue levels are good.

                  I understand that maybe I could have user'd a big man to ensure he sticks to his assignment (Griffin) but I shouldn't have to do that.... it's basic defense that should have been programmed in...

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                  • Biizz713
                    Pro
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 517

                    #69
                    Re: So This Is The NBA 2K16 Transition Defense At Its Finest

                    all that talk about cutting cheese and you can literally run an offense around inbounding to half court and holding turbo into the paint. I just don't understand what their testers do, because I'm pretty sure it isn't playing the game.

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                    • YDBoUnCe
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 184

                      #70
                      Re: So This Is The NBA 2K16 Transition Defense At Its Finest

                      Originally posted by jbl33333
                      I was playing a game and obtained exactly the footage that this thread speaks of:






                      Literally these happened almost back to back off of dead balls.

                      Am I doing something wrong here? This is cheese if I've ever seen it before. I know Garnett is 80 years old but damn, my mom could have done a better job sticking to the defensive assignment. Garnett just slowly trots down the floor forgetting he is supposed to guard someone. My POEs are even set to Limit Transition/Protect the Paint and I always ensure fatigue levels are good.

                      I understand that maybe I could have user'd a big man to ensure he sticks to his assignment (Griffin) but I shouldn't have to do that.... it's basic defense that should have been programmed in...
                      I've seen worse. I've seen people do that with just one pass, that being the initial inbound. They cut CP completely out of the picture and just hoist it up fullcourt

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                      • ehh
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 28962

                        #71
                        Re: So This Is The NBA 2K16 Transition Defense At Its Finest

                        My beef isn't even straight up transition situations, I see stuff like this in the halfcourt set all the time (HUM vs CPU)...

                        Kevin Seraphin with the popular "let me stand out of bounds under the hoop and allow a dunk" that I get a few times per game. Seraphin has no awareness of where he is on the court, he thinks he's 50' from the hoop and still back-pedaling because he doesn't think he needs to be near his assignment yet.



                        Sure, Carmelo isn't the best defender in the world, but here he goes under the "screen" and runs to the right block, the complete wrong direction and away from the ball. It looks like he's racing to cover Afflalo's man in the corner as if he's expecting Afflalo to rotate in to help on Gordon, though AA never budges. Same goes with Porzingis, Melo may be thinking that he needs to cover Porzingis' man because he expected Taps to rotate over. Same deal with AA though as Porzingis never budges.





                        Regardless, it seems like there's a big disconnect and the CPU-controlled players aren't aware of whatever team strategy/concept we have for defense and rotations. They also aren't aware of if a rotation is being made and how they should react accordingly.
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                        • YDBoUnCe
                          Rookie
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 184

                          #72
                          Re: So This Is The NBA 2K16 Transition Defense At Its Finest

                          That second gif highlights an issue that I see with defenders getting caught up after a pass/handoff. I see why you call it a "screen". Either way that's bad recovery. So even if you're a purist looking to play man on man, there's a caveat.

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                          Last edited by YDBoUnCe; 10-19-2015, 12:14 PM.

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                          • jbl33333
                            Rookie
                            • Oct 2015
                            • 50

                            #73
                            Re: So This Is The NBA 2K16 Transition Defense At Its Finest

                            Originally posted by ehh
                            My beef isn't even straight up transition situations, I see stuff like this in the halfcourt set all the time (HUM vs CPU)...


                            Regardless, it seems like there's a big disconnect and the CPU-controlled players aren't aware of whatever team strategy/concept we have for defense and rotations. They also aren't aware of if a rotation is being made and how they should react accordingly.
                            wow those are really bad. i'd be ok with poor defenders getting scored on, but here they didn't even make an effort to make the right read. was this online or offline? I know i've played HOF v CPU and had situations where my non-user'd teammate would inexplicably get distracted and allow for cuts to the basket even while watching his man. i think this is (unfairly) one of the ways they make HOF difficult

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                            • YDBoUnCe
                              Rookie
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 184

                              #74
                              Re: So This Is The NBA 2K16 Transition Defense At Its Finest

                              Yeah I'm gonna wait till they patch this before play online again. Can't handle cheese fest right now.

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                              • Hustle Westbrook
                                MVP
                                • Jan 2015
                                • 3113

                                #75
                                Re: So This Is The NBA 2K16 Transition Defense At Its Finest

                                Originally posted by YDBoUnCe
                                Yeah I'm gonna wait till they patch this before play online again. Can't handle cheese fest right now.

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