Shot % Tweaks needed?

[Korrupted]

Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

I agree 100. Because it's easy to alter shots. Just a good hard contest. U can't leave guys open and guys hit shots and then get online and ask 2k to lower the shootin . Basically ur asking 2k to fix ur defense. When guys hit shots on me it's because I left them open and my defense didn't get a hand up. I can deal with that. But when I contest good with a hand up it very seldom goes in. So when ppl complain about the shooting that tells me immediately that ur defense is basically garbage.

I can agree with this as well. People are horrible defensively in this game and wonder why they get torched on a regular basis. I will say Wide open jumpers have been streaky the last few days. When Patch 3 initially dropped I could tell a slight change in shooting percentages but now it seems drastic. If they Nerf shooting any more it's gon be brick city out here.

[ksuttonjr76]

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You know what? I'm going to give a bit of a reality check:

At this point, if you feel like shooting is still 'overpowered' online, it's because your defense is complete trash. It's that simple. And if you're hitting at a consistent rate, it's because your opponent's defense is complete trash.

To be fair....one of the posters said it was his online league that saw the jump in higher shooting percentages. Are you saying that everyone in his league suddenly forgot how to play defense?

[Caelumfang]

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To be fair....one of the posters said it was his online league that saw the jump in higher shooting percentages. Are you saying that everyone in his league suddenly forgot how to play defense?

No, it means their defense wasn't as good as they thought.

[sirio994]

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Looking at the issue from another point of view...we are all great shooters, offensive players, shot creators?

[sirio994]

Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

Defense is harder after patch 3...but offense is easier...something is definitively changed on play now offline (superstar/hall of fame sim) and it's not related only to the user and his/her defense

[cablexdeadpool]

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Looking at the issue from another point of view...we are all great shooters, offensive players, shot creators?

A lot of us, especially me, were against changing absolutely nothing when the game came out.

You actually had to play basketball, you actually had to be a good shooter, you actually had to have an offense, you actually had to know the controls. You had to mix it up. Three point chuckers like me, had to do something else besides jack up threes.

I got in the post with my guards, I ran cut plays, I ran midrange plays.

I never had a problem shooting on this game, now I really don't.

I can play 1-4 and jack up 30 threes a game and make 45 percent of them and I am a 3 point chucker. Sometimes 3s can be 50 percent of my offense and it doesn't matter who I play with. When the game first came out, I shot around 20 threes a game at 40 percent.

You know the test of the shooting of this game? Go play MyTeam. Before, when you played MyTeam, you actually had to play realistically...

Now?

You can fly around the court and jack threes. You can drive in the paint and kick out repeatedly for a three point shot.


Before I took what the defense gave me, now I don't have to, it's like child's play. Only players that give me problems on this game, are the ones that play off ball defense and turbo down the court.

Before getting a green light was rare, you can get greenlights all day.

You can have a center closing out and point guards will shoot over you.

I had Demar Derozan take a damn fadeaway 3 between 2 defenders.

I had a MyCareer game where my dude shot a damn game tying 3 pointer that was so deep, it didn't even register on the shot meter and my dude made it.

Only thing that needed to be changed in regards to shooting on was the percentage of hop shots and stepbacks that went it and made the animation faster.

Make people work for points, not just give it to them.

If the game isn't gonna be hard, why even play? Only place where it's skill on skill is MyPark anyway because there is no help. You can't hide behind onball D and etc. But even then, crap happens where it's like WTF?

[synistr]

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I cannot hit moving 3's with Steph in Gauntlet. in other modes I am good with him. his standing 3 is good. if he is driving in a straight line he knocks down a decent amount.

however, any lateral movement and pull up....I can only hit about 10%. this happens with other players too but Steph is the worst and most obvious because I have shoe on him and he has 99 moving 3 and cant hit one to save his life no matter how open he is.

not really that good with Kyrie either but a lil better than Steph. other players who have lesser shooting stats I dont have a problem with. they hit a decent percentage according to their stats.

[cablexdeadpool]

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I cannot hit moving 3's with Steph in Gauntlet. in other modes I am good with him. his standing 3 is good. if he is driving in a straight line he knocks down a decent amount.

however, any lateral movement and pull up....I can only hit about 10%. this happens with other players too but Steph is the worst and most obvious because I have shoe on him and he has 99 moving 3 and cant hit one to save his life no matter how open he is.

not really that good with Kyrie either but a lil better than Steph. other players who have lesser shooting stats I dont have a problem with. they hit a decent percentage according to their stats.

The moving shots in this game don't go in.

That's why was people always just do a standing shot off the dribble.

[The 24th Letter]

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Yeah I'm def not seeing heavily contested jumpers go in on a regular basis...you do pay for giving guys who can pull up (Curry/Melo) space though....as you should....

[zeroblackstar]

Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

MyCareer, Superstar Default - The CPU hits open 3s at far too high a clip or at least it seems that way, even average/poor 3pt shooters are draining them like Curry from the arc, when you couple this with your team constantly leaving shooters open for no reason whatsoever it gets pretty boring, oh there goes yet another wide open 3 from the CPU with a ~90% chance of going in...

The CPU also seems to hit heavily contested jumpers at a higher rate than seems natural, again these aren't deadeye shooters, they're just average shooters.

Similarly to some other comments I've seen the CPU hit a fadeaway 3 over 2 defenders as the shot clock expires far too many times, finally some defense being played aaannnd splash .

I could understand this if I was playing HOF but not on Superstar. I could change to Sim settings but then it will screw with my teammates ability to make shots...they're already taking bad shots as it is, don't want to make it any worse. The amount of times Melo has received the ball wide open in transition for an easy jumper and he takes 3 steps forward straight into 2 defenders and tries to shoot it in their face only to get blocked or throw up a total brick...yah, i'll keep it on default.

Edit: Your team in MyCareer deliberately play like morons quite frequently for what I can only assume is "game balance" purposes, I'm sure my comments above probably don't apply to MyTeam etc

[Caelumfang]

Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

MyCareer, Superstar Default - The CPU hits open 3s at far too high a clip or at least it seems that way, even average/poor 3pt shooters are draining them like Curry from the arc, when you couple this with your team constantly leaving shooters open for no reason whatsoever it gets pretty boring, oh there goes yet another wide open 3 from the CPU with a ~90% chance of going in...

The CPU also seems to hit heavily contested jumpers at a higher rate than seems natural, again these aren't deadeye shooters, they're just average shooters.

Similarly to some other comments I've seen the CPU hit a fadeaway 3 over 2 defenders as the shot clock expires far too many times, finally some defense being played aaannnd splash .

I could understand this if I was playing HOF but not on Superstar. I could change to Sim settings but then it will screw with my teammates ability to make shots...they're already taking bad shots as it is, don't want to make it any worse. The amount of times Melo has received the ball wide open in transition for an easy jumper and he takes 3 steps forward straight into 2 defenders and tries to shoot it in their face only to get blocked or throw up a total brick...yah, i'll keep it on default.

Edit: Your team in MyCareer deliberately play like morons quite frequently for what I can only assume is "game balance" purposes, I'm sure my comments above probably don't apply to MyTeam etc

Sorry, but if you're playing on Default, then you deserve what you get.

[zeroblackstar]

Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

Sorry, but if you're playing on Default, then you deserve what you get.

Did you actually read the entire post? To put it another way, the problem is that the CPU makes shots at a much higher rate than your own team, reducing both teams ability to hit shots by the same amount by setting the sliders to Sim isn't going to fix that is it. What I'm asking for is parity. If there was no problem, I could happily set it to Sim, as it stands Default seems to be the best answer at the moment.

[Caelumfang]

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Did you actually read the entire post? To put it another way, the problem is that the CPU makes shots at a much higher rate than your own team, reducing both teams ability to hit shots by the same amount by setting the sliders to Sim isn't going to fix that is it. What I'm asking for is parity. If there was no problem, I could happily set it to Sim, as it stands Default seems to be the best answer at the moment.

Yes, I read your post, but you're asking for something that will never happen. And by playing on Default, you're actually making things worse for yourself, which is why I don't feel bad for you.

Increasing game difficulty means you're increasing the CPU's advantage over your own team, else difficulty means nothing. And having sliders on Default means every single thing is set at 50, including defense and shot success. Contact in the paint, shot contests, etc suffer heavily when sliders are set at Default, as opposed to Sim. So yeah, those 'contested shots' are going to fall more when your sliders are on Default.

[The 24th Letter]

Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

I'm not understanding the offline shooting complaints though, we have sliders for that...

[thormessiah]

Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

I tested this fella's notion of chucking 3's all game in PlayNow. Used the Warriors against a Thunder user (oh boy). I shot 18 3's and made 7 so that's 38%, which is pretty realistic.I do feel I should've made more since the majority were open 3's like in the clip below, and I shot with pretty much everyone except for brother Bogut.

Dat ball smoovement tho

https://account.xbox.com/en-US/gameclip/fed33086-50da-4e83-9b7d-79a8db0efef1?gamertag=volfwaley&scid=7fb10100-002b-4e18-b7ad-70e811081528