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  • Beluba
    Gameplay Director, NBA2k
    • Jul 2002
    • 1389

    #211
    Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

    Originally posted by circuit
    can we focus on Blocks now, needs to be toned down if your not a shot blocker especially on dunks
    Blocks are being addressed in Patch 3.

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    • Hustle Westbrook
      MVP
      • Jan 2015
      • 3113

      #212
      Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

      Originally posted by Beluba
      Thanks, everyone, for the feedback. The debate over what tweaks should be made is a pretty clear indicator that it would be a mistake to make any significant changes... so any updates going forward will be extremely subtle.

      That being said, an update went out Saturday morning. Here's what I changed:
      • Biggest change... heavily contested contact layups should be dropping less frequently
      • Wide open 3's (nobody within 12 feet) with excellent shooters were given a tiny boost
      • Wide open middies (with 75+ rated shooters) were bumped up by about 3%
      • The frequency of dunking in traffic was decreased a little bit, dunk attempts will be converted to layups
      This looks awesome. Thank you.
      Check out my YouTube channel for NBA 2K16 MyTeam and Play Now Online gameplay videos!

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      • DrewFriday
        Rookie
        • Oct 2015
        • 8

        #213
        Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

        These are MY thoughts. I play myteam ONLY. I pay GREAT money to have the team I have.

        Steph curry
        Durant
        Lebron
        Amethyst Scottie Pippen
        Amethyst Kidd
        400 cards collected Ray Allen

        You see where I am going with this. I love the nba 2k series. He is my beef. If you spend $50 American dollars to buy ONE steph curry. After packs and reselling. Why in the world with a 95 standing and 95 moving 3 point shot. Nothing goes in WIDE OPEN. WIDE OPEN nothing goes in.

        At this point I am erasing this game from my hard drive until a SERIOUS PATCH can address USELESS shooters. Durant for 3 BRICK. CHEF CURRY LOOKING LIKE A BLONDE WHO CANT COOK.

        Useless shooters. Everyone I play. Is in 3-2 zone DARING you to shoot the 3. Every game is 0-3 from 3 and him 1-5 from 3. Everybody is scared to shoot the 3. CURRY IS USELESS. I'm sure HE himself is PISSED at the disrespectful representation of himself.

        I understand cutting the cheese. But when the BEST SHOOTER IN THE GAME IS USELESS. I'm done. I can't. I have bought every copy of this game since 2k7. I have NEVER seen this level of BS with regard to the JUMP SHOT (what basketball is made of)

        2k Dev if you read this. Please address these issues. Look on YouTube and see NICK the bulls fan RAGE at the jump shot trash. Look at shake 4nd bake videos and see how the community is complaining to him about this jump shot nonsense.

        I spend 50 dollars a Thursday. 50 a Thursday and if Friday is good another 50. You are throwing away MONEY because you are trying to please a crowd of MINORITIES.

        PLEASE FIX THE JUMPSH!T!!!!

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        • DmaXmius101
          Banned
          • Sep 2015
          • 53

          #214
          Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

          Is there's any chance of a Beluba simulation sliders set. The default sim sliders for SS and HOF seems a bit off for some reason. Beluba what sliders set do you recommend for those levels.

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          • MeloNYK7
            Rookie
            • Oct 2011
            • 294

            #215
            Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

            Originally posted by Beluba
            Blocks are being addressed in Patch 3.
            Thank you. Block dunks/lay ups and miss dunks definitely need to be addressed.

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            • BluFu
              MVP
              • May 2012
              • 3596

              #216
              Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

              Originally posted by DrewFriday
              These are MY thoughts. I play myteam ONLY. I pay GREAT money to have the team I have.

              Steph curry
              Durant
              Lebron
              Amethyst Scottie Pippen
              Amethyst Kidd
              400 cards collected Ray Allen

              You see where I am going with this. I love the nba 2k series. He is my beef. If you spend $50 American dollars to buy ONE steph curry. After packs and reselling. Why in the world with a 95 standing and 95 moving 3 point shot. Nothing goes in WIDE OPEN. WIDE OPEN nothing goes in.

              At this point I am erasing this game from my hard drive until a SERIOUS PATCH can address USELESS shooters. Durant for 3 BRICK. CHEF CURRY LOOKING LIKE A BLONDE WHO CANT COOK.

              Useless shooters. Everyone I play. Is in 3-2 zone DARING you to shoot the 3. Every game is 0-3 from 3 and him 1-5 from 3. Everybody is scared to shoot the 3. CURRY IS USELESS. I'm sure HE himself is PISSED at the disrespectful representation of himself.

              I understand cutting the cheese. But when the BEST SHOOTER IN THE GAME IS USELESS. I'm done. I can't. I have bought every copy of this game since 2k7. I have NEVER seen this level of BS with regard to the JUMP SHOT (what basketball is made of)

              2k Dev if you read this. Please address these issues. Look on YouTube and see NICK the bulls fan RAGE at the jump shot trash. Look at shake 4nd bake videos and see how the community is complaining to him about this jump shot nonsense.

              I spend 50 dollars a Thursday. 50 a Thursday and if Friday is good another 50. You are throwing away MONEY because you are trying to please a crowd of MINORITIES.

              PLEASE FIX THE JUMPSH!T!!!!
              So you're deleting the game you've (apparently) spent at least 250 dollars on because you've missed some jumpers

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              • Beluba
                Gameplay Director, NBA2k
                • Jul 2002
                • 1389

                #217
                Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

                Originally posted by Beluba
                This one's tricky, Sundown. Currently, standing stepback jumpers are treated the same as other "skill" shots like spin jumpers and pull-up J's. So to fix zig-zagging pull-ups, all of these shots took a pretty big hit. I need to put standing stepbacks in a separate category to be able to boost JUST those shot types, so it's something that we'd have to address in the patch. I'll investigate that today.
                I think we have a solution for Patch 3. Until then, it's kind of hacky, but there is a workaround. If you hold LS away, tap Shoot to do the stepback jumper, but then pause for a brief moment (technically, breaking out of the shot to a live dribble, then shooting immediately after) rather than doing it as a Tap+Press&Hold mechanic, you can still create space with the stepback and then branch into the shot portion without incurring the penalty.

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                • ch46647
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 3515

                  #218
                  Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

                  Originally posted by Beluba
                  I think we have a solution for Patch 3. Until then, it's kind of hacky, but there is a workaround. If you hold LS away, tap Shoot to do the stepback jumper, but then pause for a brief moment (technically, breaking out of the shot to a live dribble, then shooting immediately after) rather than doing it as a Tap+Press&Hold mechanic, you can still create space with the stepback and then branch into the shot portion without incurring the penalty.
                  This is great news! I play with the Warriors and you guys have added so many beautiful step back animations, but the success rate is extremely low. (I use real fg%)

                  I am looking forward to this patch so I can begin my MyLeague.

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                  • MeloNYK7
                    Rookie
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 294

                    #219
                    Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

                    Definitely looking forward to this patch, few things that need addressing. Shooting was my #1 tho glad that has now been fixed. Others include blocks, miss dunks, CPU transition defense after made baskets, quicker passes/response time input, more explosiveness/tighter isomotion input,tighter/quicker response input on buttons (passing,play calling). And for some reason Y-Y input for alleys only works like 75% of the time, other times it just does a regular pass. Just a few things i would like to see addressed.

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                    • Sundown
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 3270

                      #220
                      Shot % Tweaks needed?

                      Originally posted by Beluba
                      This one's tricky, Sundown. Currently, standing stepback jumpers are treated the same as other "skill" shots like spin jumpers and pull-up J's. So to fix zig-zagging pull-ups, all of these shots took a pretty big hit. I need to put standing stepbacks in a separate category to be able to boost JUST those shot types, so it's something that we'd have to address in the patch. I'll investigate that today.

                      Fantastic to hear Mike! That's all we can ask.

                      It did seem like the standing step shots were rated like moving step shots, and the other skill shots seem to produce pretty realistic results otherwise. Being able to cheese those out to the three would be a bad thing.

                      If standing step shots can be boosted, will that also apply to stationary step shots in all directions (like the "side-Steph" and step into three?)


                      Originally posted by Beluba
                      I think we have a solution for Patch 3. Until then, it's kind of hacky, but there is a workaround. If you hold LS away, tap Shoot to do the stepback jumper, but then pause for a brief moment (technically, breaking out of the shot to a live dribble, then shooting immediately after) rather than doing it as a Tap+Press&Hold mechanic, you can still create space with the stepback and then branch into the shot portion without incurring the penalty.

                      Thanks also for this. I'll give it a shot (no pun intended). I'm going to guess it'll be a little tricky for me to release right before the step goes into a shot animation and it probably won't look as glorious as the hold shot (seriously fantastic other than difficulty this year), but it might tie me over until the patch proper.

                      While we're on the topic, I'll just mention that there seems to be a bit of a hitch after the left stick tap little directional step animation before it's possible to blend into a shot.

                      Excited about the patch and updates!
                      Last edited by Sundown; 10-26-2015, 07:49 PM.

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                      • DC
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 17996

                        #221
                        Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

                        Thanks for adjusting dunks in traffic. I know you had me in mind when doing that Mike. #MyMan
                        Concrete evidence/videos please

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                        • TheDuggler
                          Pro
                          • Sep 2012
                          • 728

                          #222
                          Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

                          Hey Beluba, do these tweaks apply to already in progress MyCareers?

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                          • jfsolo
                            Live Action, please?
                            • May 2003
                            • 12965

                            #223
                            Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

                            I can't speak about online, but offline I think these new tweaks are nice, it will be even more evident when transition defense, wandering wing defenders in the half court, and lack of physicality/deny of position in the paint is patched. These things are what's allowing the FG% to be too high right now in User vs. CPU games.
                            Jordan Mychal Lemos
                            @crypticjordan

                            Do this today: Instead of $%*#!@& on a game you're not going to play or movie you're not going to watch, say something good about a piece of media you're excited about.

                            Do the same thing tomorrow. And the next. Now do it forever.

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                            • Sundown
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 3270

                              #224
                              Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

                              Originally posted by jfsolo
                              I can't speak about online, but offline I think these new tweaks are nice, it will be even more evident when transition defense, wandering wing defenders in the half court, and lack of physicality/deny of position in the paint is patched. These things are what's allowing the FG% to be too high right now in User vs. CPU games.

                              Are you seeing a noticeable reduction in CPU contact cheese layups and and-1s?

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                              • jfsolo
                                Live Action, please?
                                • May 2003
                                • 12965

                                #225
                                Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

                                Originally posted by Sundown
                                Are you seeing a noticeable reduction in CPU contact cheese layups and and-1s?
                                Yes, it was very evident in the first quarter of the first game. I was actually very surprised at how noticeable it was. They will still get a few to drop, but most will miss now, especially with guards.

                                If anyone says that they can't tell the difference, I will be shocked.
                                Jordan Mychal Lemos
                                @crypticjordan

                                Do this today: Instead of $%*#!@& on a game you're not going to play or movie you're not going to watch, say something good about a piece of media you're excited about.

                                Do the same thing tomorrow. And the next. Now do it forever.

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