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  • bo.jangles344
    Banned
    • Jun 2013
    • 1007

    #76
    Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

    I'm mostly a park 3 on 3 player and i'm thinking a world wide tuning down. I thought before the last tweak percentages were amazing and realistic. I thought wide open could use a little boost but after running at people with lockdown defender there should be a much bigger penalty now. I don't think dead eye should be as effective as it is at the moment. It's not outrageously horrible but it's frustrating trying to give a little bit of space to prepare for the drive and not be able to close the 3ft gap enough. Also, off the dribble shots are not penalized enough for the super elite shooters. I understand it's a give and take, meaning my inside scorer would essentially never be able to hit off the dribble but i can barely do it now. All in all, mids to 3s are painful to defend with an outside scorer able to come off the dribble anywhere and still be 50/50 from deep but not with someone in his Jersey and if he beats me off the dribble but I'm closing in it shouldn't be this hard to contain a jump shooter. I don't care if he has the best jumper and the best handling, I'm at lvl 20 on defense with lockdown defender. My title is "superior lockdown defender". Sure, he went outside and play making. I bet on my athleticism and defense. I wanna be Tony Allen and give any guard in the game fits. Shouldn't matter their rating. I invested in defense, i should be able to guard anyone. If they're going to go into the paint they can meet my center. But when I'm on the perimeter they should fear me too. I won't say that I'm the best player in the world, but when i invest heavily in defense, i should have some sort of payoff. Right now, there's a stream of outside mini demigods dribbling circles and running off screens popping off the dribble mids and 3s with a little bit of daylight and pulling. I don't care about when they beat me beat me and I'm completely out of position. But if I'm within 3-4 feet of the shooter with dead eye, shot creator, and i have lockdown i would prefer 30% success rate vs 90 from mid and 50/50 from 3.

    All in all, contested layups mid and 3 could use a significant drop imo since the last tuning.
    Last edited by bo.jangles344; 10-21-2015, 09:20 PM.

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    • TaylorBoi
      Banned
      • Jun 2015
      • 188

      #77
      Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

      Shooting is decent as is. Maybe boost the wide open 18-20 footers a lil more but other than that it's straight.

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      • MadManCometh
        Banned
        • Aug 2007
        • 459

        #78
        Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

        I guess my thing is make the ratings count. U cannot leave elite shooters open and they just hit a few jumpers here and there. Stopping jump shooters is easy, put a hand up!! I'm so sick of ppl playing bad defense and getting away with it. U cannot leave elite 3 point shooters open 6 times a game and they only hit once or twice. If I leave Korver open 5 times and he hits 4 3s than that's my fault for leaving a elite 3point shooter open.


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        • hanzsomehanz
          MVP
          • Oct 2009
          • 3275

          #79
          Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

          The game is still in its infancy - not even 30 days in

          The first shooting tweak was premature, a knee-jerker

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          • wimp14
            Rookie
            • Oct 2012
            • 127

            #80
            Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

            I play HOF sim offline and shoot about 30% on wide open 3 balls. Yes my feet are set and my timing is good. I'm talking spot up shoots with great or good shooters brick city. Yeah I miss about 3 dunks per game which is outrageous. I'm fine with getting blocked but come on with the miss dunks.

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            • MadManCometh
              Banned
              • Aug 2007
              • 459

              #81
              Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

              Originally posted by wimp14
              I play HOF sim offline and shoot about 30% on wide open 3 balls. Yes my feet are set and my timing is good. I'm talking spot up shoots with great or good shooters brick city. Yeah I miss about 3 dunks per game which is outrageous. I'm fine with getting blocked but come on with the miss dunks.
              Exactly. JuSt today I was playing online and one of the Timber wolves guards(Kevin Martin) blocked Blake Griffins dunk and I just cringed. Then on the other end I had CP3 and I blocked Lavines dunk. I just shook my head. The other day I was playing the cavs online and I dribbled near Mosgov with curry and the computer generated an automatic steal by Mosgov. And I'm like Mosgov would never strip curry's pocket like that.


              I understand the game is about defense, but u can't make it unrealistic by making guys block dunks and missing open shots just to say, "it's about defense".
              Last edited by MadManCometh; 10-21-2015, 11:17 PM.

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              • Scrooge
                Rookie
                • Oct 2008
                • 187

                #82
                Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

                I play offline hof sim quick matches

                Please please tweak open catch and shoot mid range back to what they used to be before the first adjustment

                Or atleast have computer shoot the same percentage

                I'm shooting like 20% off wide open catch and shoots with pierce

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                • Phreezy P
                  MVP
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 3219

                  #83
                  Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

                  Originally posted by Ray Vibes
                  A bunch of center's are good at 3's... Dirk, Aldridge, Bosh, Kevin love and Cousins just to name a few.
                  Those are literally all natural PFs.
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                  • yonly1ME
                    Rookie
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 98

                    #84
                    Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

                    I've played a little bit of every mode, and everything seemed fine except for two things that stood out to me.

                    Play Now Online is fine except Bigs miss too many dunks if a defender is in the general vicinity of the rim.

                    I know shot fatigue exists in the game but I feel it doesn't exist in Ante-Up or if it does it is very minimal.

                    I know it supposed to be more arcade but on 3v3, there are teams of two bigs holding circle in the paint, and having 1 guy dribble back and forth with hesitation 3 for 20 seconds and hitting tough shots at a good clip.

                    Has anyone else experienced this in Ante-Up or Park?
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                    • Jrocc23
                      MVP
                      • May 2010
                      • 3207

                      #85
                      Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

                      Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                      Why the hell would he want to play on HOF?

                      I am guessing you're referring to me? If not, my bad. But I said SS or HOF, honestly it doesn't matter. It's too frequent either way.

                      Honestly, for me, HOF plays better and shots don't go in as frequent as SS for the CPU players just from what I've experienced.

                      And why shouldn't he play on HOF if he's wondering about shooting? I know y'all are stuck on saying SS is the best difficulty, but that's an opinion no matter what forum poster or developer says it. I honestly like HOF. And others do play on it, so if it's issues, they should check it out.

                      Maybe they do get a boost or whatever but it's what I need a little anyways because the game is too easy on anything else. But the shooting is bad for CPU players. And I keep stressing my CPU players as well.
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                      • hanzsomehanz
                        MVP
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 3275

                        #86
                        Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

                        Originally posted by wimp14
                        I play HOF sim offline and shoot about 30% on wide open 3 balls. Yes my feet are set and my timing is good. I'm talking spot up shoots with great or good shooters brick city. Yeah I miss about 3 dunks per game which is outrageous. I'm fine with getting blocked but come on with the miss dunks.
                        That's fundamentally how the hardest difficulty is designed on almost all sports games or games in general: for the end user to have generally less success outcomes.

                        I find on SS and HOF the computer will leave me wide open on 3 very often as if they are baiting me - sometimes I make 'em pay, other times not so much...

                        30% is still about 1 for 3 but when you're attempting 3s at a high volume on HOF those numbers could start to deviate - you might see 2 for 6 then 3 for 7 or 4 for 8 but you could also go 2 for 9 or 3 for 9.

                        If you're attempting the wide open 3s at a high volume you may want to consider who they are constantly leaving wide open. If you're playing outside of My Career it could come down to a numbers game and your teammates simply struggle with 3s.

                        1 for 3 is not far from 2 for 4 so it may be something very minor for you to work on to increase your 3pt percentage o wide open opportunities.

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                        • vincemeister55
                          Rookie
                          • Jun 2012
                          • 162

                          #87
                          Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

                          floaters gets in almost 98% of the time for star players

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                          • Rockie_Fresh88
                            Lockdown Defender
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 9621

                            #88
                            Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

                            I like where outside shooting is for the most part
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                            • Thetruth9012
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2013
                              • 1287

                              #89
                              Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

                              Originally posted by yonly1ME
                              I've played a little bit of every mode, and everything seemed fine except for two things that stood out to me.

                              Play Now Online is fine except Bigs miss too many dunks if a defender is in the general vicinity of the rim.

                              I know shot fatigue exists in the game but I feel it doesn't exist in Ante-Up or if it does it is very minimal.

                              I know it supposed to be more arcade but on 3v3, there are teams of two bigs holding circle in the paint, and having 1 guy dribble back and forth with hesitation 3 for 20 seconds and hitting tough shots at a good clip.

                              Has anyone else experienced this in Ante-Up or Park?
                              This ballers do all the time !!!
                              Because shot contest in park is to low if you closeout a litle slow its over you can dbl them but they still find a way really because of this shot contest
                              2k18 fixes

                              Bigs can cover to much ground on defense(they are too fast)

                              Late contest on laups matter too much.

                              Random blocks doing pumpfakes.

                              Leaning shots for guys who have catch and shoot badge should be removed.

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                              • Ray Vibes
                                Elite Allstar
                                • Mar 2011
                                • 519

                                #90
                                Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

                                Originally posted by Phreezy P
                                Those are literally all natural PFs.
                                Yes they are. Trust me, I'm smarter than that.

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