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  • Thetruth9012
    MVP
    • Oct 2013
    • 1287

    #16
    Re: 2K16 has totally killed contested shooting

    Guys for offline players just change jumsphoot gather User/Cpu to 20 go to scrimage and you see a difference
    2k18 fixes

    Bigs can cover to much ground on defense(they are too fast)

    Late contest on laups matter too much.

    Random blocks doing pumpfakes.

    Leaning shots for guys who have catch and shoot badge should be removed.

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    • lisinas
      MVP
      • Jan 2010
      • 1218

      #17
      Re: 2K16 has totally killed contested shooting

      Originally posted by FloorGeneral
      Curry is a human cheat code. Bringing him up in an argument for video games should not be allowed. If 2K allowed us to play with Curry like he plays in real life, the mods of this forum would have to be fireman with all the fires they'd be constantly putting out.
      You guys are using "Curry is too good in real life" argument way over the top, we are talking about more players, do i need to list all the players in the nba who hit contested shots with consistency (to an extent obviously, they dont make every shot they take)

      Lebron from the post
      Wade from the post
      Melo from Triple threat (jab step etc.)/post
      LA
      Dirk
      Durant
      Curry
      Kobe
      Derozan

      and so on and so on, it's pretty much non existent in the game right now though (at least offline and im not even playing on HOF).

      My point is, there are bunch of players in the nba who 1.Have the ability to hit contested shots with decent consistency 2.Are not afraid to take contested shots even if they are not as good as the top tier players at making them (Derozan), now go in a game and try to use Derozan the way he plays in real life... heck, try to use Melo from the triple threat and come back to me with the results.
      Last edited by lisinas; 11-01-2015, 03:00 PM.
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      • lisinas
        MVP
        • Jan 2010
        • 1218

        #18
        Re: 2K16 has totally killed contested shooting

        Originally posted by Chmielu9123
        Guys for offline players just change jumsphoot gather User/Cpu to 20 go to scrimage and you see a difference
        Now this response i understand and appreciate, i will try that later and come back with results.
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        • CanOfCornCobb
          Banned
          • Sep 2013
          • 525

          #19
          Re: 2K16 has totally killed contested shooting

          So let me just pass the ball the to Curry on the wing and shoot a contested 3 off the catch everytime. You guys are trying to make this game too realistic. There are different levels of contested shots in this game (in the guys face, on-ball hand up, close out fly by) and they all result as they should for a basketball SIMULATION. You complain about stars not hitting contested shots.... go play on HOF sim. Lebron will plow thru you driving, hit a contested fade from the post. Curry will splash 3s on you if you sag off a little bit. The game is plenty realistic. I gotta admit at first I loved the game, then hated it, but now I love it even more than before because the expectations have already been set.

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          • tril
            MVP
            • Nov 2004
            • 2912

            #20
            Re: 2K16 has totally killed contested shooting

            disagree.
            are you using real field goal percentage or user timing.
            I find the game to be properly balanced. If I find that a player is hot, he will hit a good % of contested shots.
            I also think the release point is affected based on the defender, and type of shot.
            In addition, a few games does not dictate a trend. you really have to see how these stats play out during the course of an entire season.
            In the end the % of contested shots will be close in percentage to the open shots made %.

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            • lisinas
              MVP
              • Jan 2010
              • 1218

              #21
              Re: 2K16 has totally killed contested shooting

              Originally posted by CanOfCornCobb
              So let me just pass the ball the to Curry on the wing and shoot a contested 3 off the catch everytime. You guys are trying to make this game too realistic. There are different levels of contested shots in this game (in the guys face, on-ball hand up, close out fly by) and they all result as they should for a basketball SIMULATION. You complain about stars not hitting contested shots.... go play on HOF sim. Lebron will plow thru you driving, hit a contested fade from the post. Curry will splash 3s on you if you sag off a little bit. The game is plenty realistic. I gotta admit at first I loved the game, then hated it, but now I love it even more than before because the expectations have already been set.
              We are talking from User controlling those players perspective and you cant pull most of that stuff with any of the superstar players.
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              • Sundown
                MVP
                • Oct 2010
                • 3270

                #22
                Re: 2K16 has totally killed contested shooting

                Originally posted by MadManCometh
                Hey, I agree with u bro. I play with the Warriors and u are absolutely correct. Curry hits nothing unless he's 100% wide open. And that in itself is unrealistic. I wonder if 2k actually watch real life games sometimes. Like u said, Curry hits a lot of shots even with a hand up. Now I know it's a video game and there has to be a counter for Curry but maybe he shouldnt get penalized as heavy. I agree he's basically a spot up shooter and nothing like he is in real life. I think it's a joke the way Curry is watered down in this game.





                And what's the point of putting step backs and side steps in the game if their never going to hit them. Curry hits step backs easily IRL. But good luck trying that in the game.

                Mike is adjusting step backs in a patch AND wide open shots based on player rating, whom Curry will be the biggest benefactor from. It wasn't that hard to convince Mike to do the former when the issue was presented without exaggeration and in detail, even though it meant going into code to make the change and made it more involved than a regular shot tweak.

                Not sure why information on what is being addressed is again being ignored.

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                • lisinas
                  MVP
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 1218

                  #23
                  Re: 2K16 has totally killed contested shooting

                  Originally posted by Sundown
                  Mike is adjusting step backs in a patch AND wide open shots based on player rating, whom Curry will be the biggest benefactor from. It wasn't that hard to convince Mike to do the former when the issue was presented without exaggeration and in detail, even though it meant going into code to make the change and made it more involved than a regular shot tweak.

                  Not sure why information on what is being addressed is again being ignored.
                  That all we needed to know, thank you !
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                  • Rockie_Fresh88
                    Lockdown Defender
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 9621

                    #24
                    Re: 2K16 has totally killed contested shooting

                    Op you got a video of the kind of shot you're taking ? How contested are you talking ?
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                    • CanOfCornCobb
                      Banned
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 525

                      #25
                      Re: 2K16 has totally killed contested shooting

                      Yes you can. Ive hit tons of fadeaway's from the post with Parker, contested 3's with Middleton, drifting shots with Middleton, soaring layups with Giannis.... the original post wants guys to be able to hit jump shots with the shot clock winding down and a defender up in their grill. That's just not going to happen in a video game nor it should. How often in real life does an offensive player chew up the final 5 sec of the shot clock from the perimeter and jack up a shot that goes in? There's so many things that go into the % chance to make a jumpshot in this game especially considering the rubberband AI. Lets be honest, you have a better chance of hitting an open 3 when you're down 10 than up 10 and that shouldnt be the case, but it is. Now you want to ask 2K to tweak contested shots by superstars with ratings, score, timing, and randomness taking effect? Whatever, im done posting here.

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                      • DC
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 17996

                        #26
                        Re: 2K16 has totally killed contested shooting

                        Originally posted by Rockie_Fresh88
                        Op you got a video of the kind of shot you're taking ? How contested are you talking ?
                        I came here to post the same thing.

                        OP you need to post some evidence before you present complaints.
                        Concrete evidence/videos please

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                        • Vroman
                          Pro
                          • Aug 2014
                          • 959

                          #27
                          Re: 2K16 has totally killed contested shooting

                          The only contested shot which really doesn't go in is the side/back step shot which is newly featured shot with nba 2k16. Defender's recovery speed on that one is really fast and such jumpshot never works.

                          Pull-up shots off the dribble, post fades/stepbacks shots, leaners, faceup fadeaways, stepback off the dribble shots (right stick away while dribbling) does work with defender in the face when u time it right with the right player.

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                          • ProfessaPackMan
                            Bamma
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 63852

                            #28
                            Re: 2K16 has totally killed contested shooting

                            Originally posted by DC
                            I came here to post the same thing.

                            OP you need to post some evidence before you present complaints.
                            Man, I don't need to post no damn video evidence of it happening.

                            It happens all the time along with other ridiculous stuff that goes along in this game so I don't need no damn video proof for ya'll....
                            #RespectTheCulture

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                            • stillfeelme
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 2406

                              #29
                              Re: 2K16 has totally killed contested shooting

                              How big of a sample size are you talking about here?

                              Didn't Mike Wang tweak the success percentage last week?

                              I agree with much of this but I don't see this being accurately reflected until a major gameplay and rating change occurs it involves on ball-defense and ratings for contested, and open ratings and really possibly some step back ratings. I don't see this happening until next year if at all. They will have to get rid of the "green" release being high success of going in into green means best timing of the jumper.

                              To add to this the on ball defense being played involves way too much contact to be initiated by the defense to slow down the offense without always gapping the ball properly. They have chosen to let the on ball defense to be more physical to slow down the offense.

                              This allows you to play players like Melo, Curry, KD, etc. unrealistically.

                              Steph is one of those players that doesn't lose that much % when contested especially off the dribble stepback whatever. You can't really get in his space once he puts the ball on the floor

                              The way 2K is set up now it seems like Mike has to tune the whole game by tweaking percentages. So guys who can't shoot contested shots at a good rate will get increased artifically because Melo, KD, Steph whoever is not reflected right. It is not an easy task unless they add open vs. contested ratings at the bare minimum

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                              • MadManCometh
                                Banned
                                • Aug 2007
                                • 459

                                #30
                                Re: 2K16 has totally killed contested shooting

                                People kill me with the video request as if they have a different game. If u are unaware of the problem posted by the OP then u probably don't play the game much.

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