2K16 has totally killed contested shooting

[ViolenceFight]

Re: 2K16 has totally killed contested shooting

You see this what I'm talking about. 2k use to have a rating called SIT aka Shoot in traffic (last gen). This turned the game around for the better when they had it. Superstars had high ratings. And you could see the different. Some players get hot. Especially superstars.

I'd be fine with that rating returning as long as it's still not guaranteed. Or it was handled different Online vs. Offline. Despite what it sounds like, I want star players to be star players, but I'm not willing to give that away if it turns online into a cheesefest where I can bulldoze a whole team in the paint with LeBron. Or stepback 3 every possession with steph. There has to be a balance or the game will not work.

If it has to jade a couple players for the greater good of the game as a whole...I'm fine with that.


And to MadManCometh. If you don't think this game simulates the NBA, you're clearly playing a different game or watching a different basketball league on ESPN than the majority of us. This notion you have that we all come off as fan boys (you said this in another thread basically) is laughable....especially if you were around for the last 2 years.

I've seen this forum tear 2k apart. From the online association threads, to the fade/drifting 3 cheese and lack of blocks in 13. No play calling or motion is in offense in 14. LD2K in here running damage control. I won't even bring up the ridiculous patch 4/demigod threads last year.

This is the best offering they put up in years, and as close to simulating the game as you can get without breaking certain things. If you know how to play BASKETBALL, and I have to say that because a lot of "2k Gods" Can't deal with a simple play or run an offense, this game is perfect. If you want to drop 40 with a single guy every game, this might not be the game for you.

[Rockie_Fresh88]

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It's 2015 and y'all act like posting a video is rocket science lol

[ThatMichiganFan]

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It happens towards the very end of the video, but Jimmy Butler hits a contested jumper in the corner. The Bulls were CPU, but it still proves that contested shots do go in. Butler looks open, but KCP closes quickly and gets his hands up late, but gets close enough to affect the shot, just not enough for Butler to miss.

[downsouth]

Re: 2K16 has totally killed contested shooting

Why dont you pass to the open man instead. Did you miss the finals last year when Curry was jacking bricks being bothered by dellavadova?

A good fg% is over 50% i bet u are complaining about shooting 65% or more..

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[jeebs9]

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I'd be fine with that rating returning as long as it's still not guaranteed. Or it was handled different Online vs. Offline. Despite what it sounds like, I want star players to be star players, but I'm not willing to give that away if it turns online into a cheesefest where I can bulldoze a whole team in the paint with LeBron. Or stepback 3 every possession with steph. There has to be a balance or the game will not work.

If it has to jade a couple players for the greater good of the game as a whole...I'm fine with that.


And to MadManCometh. If you don't think this game simulates the NBA, you're clearly playing a different game or watching a different basketball league on ESPN than the majority of us. This notion you have that we all come off as fan boys (you said this in another thread basically) is laughable....especially if you were around for the last 2 years.

I've seen this forum tear 2k apart. From the online association threads, to the fade/drifting 3 cheese and lack of blocks in 13. No play calling or motion is in offense in 14. LD2K in here running damage control. I won't even bring up the ridiculous patch 4/demigod threads last year.

This is the best offering they put up in years, and as close to simulating the game as you can get without breaking certain things. If you know how to play BASKETBALL, and I have to say that because a lot of "2k Gods" Can't deal with a simple play or run an offense, this game is perfect. If you want to drop 40 with a single guy every game, this might not be the game for you.

Oh I totally agree with you!!

[jeebs9]

Re: 2K16 has totally killed contested shooting

It's 2015 and y'all act like posting a video is rocket science lol

I think post a video is important. To show people that it is possible to hit contested shots in it's current state. Because I still have problems hitting face up jumpers with Dirk. Even though now I can (with a little work jabbing). People are looking for the face hand in your face knock down jumper that we know some of these players are able to hit. I think the way the game is currently you can. But like I said about you have to work for it. It isn't going to be a jump get a perfect release and you'll be able to knock down a jumper.

[ViolenceFight]

Re: 2K16 has totally killed contested shooting

I think post a video is important. To show people that it is possible to hit contested shots in it's current state. Because I still have problems hitting face up jumpers with Dirk. Even though now I can (with a little work jabbing). People are looking for the face hand in your face knock down jumper that we know some of these players are able to hit. I think the way the game is currently you can. But like I said about you have to work for it. It isn't going to be a jump get a perfect release and you'll be able to knock down a jumper.

2k15 spoiled a lot of people with the shot meter/green releases. Ironically if you put the game on Rookie Casual (did this in MyCareer to farm badges), it plays exactly how most of these guys want it to play. I'm talking pull ups in 2 guys faces, dunking on a whole squad, LeBron post game on fleek.

2k16 humbles you at first. Because the stuff you thought you were good at...it turns out you're not as good as you thought. Your slight flaws are now weaknesses.

[MadManCometh]

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Guys, guys, you can't post abnormalties and then says, "look, look, a contested shot goes in". Lol that's like me posting a vid from a shot goin in from halfcourt. The percentage of any contested shot goin in by any player, star or not, is pretty low. Let's be real. When I play guys online and when I know I got a good contest, I'm already goin for the rebound because I know it's a miss.

I would say even the slightest contested shots are more than likely not going in. Just the other day I had a mismatch when a cousins switched out on Curry. The guy controller Cousins did nothing, he just stood there. Didn't reach, no hand up. I pulls up with cousins about 4 ft in front of me and the game gave me a F and of course the miss. Now what bugs me is the fact that the game graded that shot an F. Not so much that he missed. Cousins just stood there with no hand up. And it was clear space between us.

[Nevertheles109]

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Guys, guys, you can't post abnormalties and then says, "look, look, a contested shot goes in". Lol that's like me posting a vid from a shot goin in from halfcourt. The percentage of any contested shot goin in by any player, star or not, is pretty low. Let's be real. When I play guys online and when I know I got a good contest, I'm already goin for the rebound because I know it's a miss.

I would say even the slightest contested shots are more than likely not going in. Just the other day I had a mismatch when a cousins switched out on Curry. The guy controller Cousins did nothing, he just stood there. Didn't reach, no hand up. I pulls up with cousins about 4 ft in front of me and the game gave me a F and of course the miss. Now what bugs me is the fact that the game graded that shot an F. Not so much that he missed. Cousins just stood there with no hand up. And it was clear space between us.

....You seem to be stuck in your ways. People ARE being real with you, but you just won't accept it.

[ViolenceFight]

Re: 2K16 has totally killed contested shooting

Guys, guys, you can't post abnormalties and then says, "look, look, a contested shot goes in". Lol that's like me posting a vid from a shot goin in from halfcourt. The percentage of any contested shot goin in by any player, star or not, is pretty low. Let's be real. When I play guys online and when I know I got a good contest, I'm already goin for the rebound because I know it's a miss.

I would say even the slightest contested shots are more than likely not going in. Just the other day I had a mismatch when a cousins switched out on Curry. The guy controller Cousins did nothing, he just stood there. Didn't reach, no hand up. I pulls up with cousins about 4 ft in front of me and the game gave me a F and of course the miss. Now what bugs me is the fact that the game graded that shot an F. Not so much that he missed. Cousins just stood there with no hand up. And it was clear space between us.

The Durant video posted earlier was 5 shots from the same game, contested, that should have been bricks by most logic.

You're not even plating devil's advocate here. You're just flat out ignoring everything because it doesn't fall in line with what you want.

Hell, the curry video posted earlier was the first 3 shots of the game. Back to back to back. One off the dribble, one in a guys face, and one off a late screen from 26 feet out.

I alluded to it earlier, but I'll say it flat out: The only thing that has remained constant through every "issue" you have had with the game being broken, or something not working how you think it should.....is you. There's been video evidence, a developer telling you otherwise, multiple users (and I'm not counting myself, as there are people on here like 24th, and DC who are way better than I am) who know the game telling you otherwise.

Are you just trolling here? If you are serious, I'm starting to think you need to take a step back and analyze what You are doing. Because the only one who continuesto ignore the facts presented is you. And the only one who insists that these issues are "Clear as day", is you. So, you know, perhaps it's actually now an issue of your perception vs. Reality now. You might have to accept the fact that this game is running fine for the most part, and the issues you have are starting to become what you try to accomplish within the new structure the game has become vs. What it was in previous years.

[jeebs9]

Re: 2K16 has totally killed contested shooting

Guys, guys, you can't post abnormalties and then says, "look, look, a contested shot goes in". Lol that's like me posting a vid from a shot goin in from halfcourt. The percentage of any contested shot goin in by any player, star or not, is pretty low. Let's be real. When I play guys online and when I know I got a good contest, I'm already goin for the rebound because I know it's a miss.

I would say even the slightest contested shots are more than likely not going in. Just the other day I had a mismatch when a cousins switched out on Curry. The guy controller Cousins did nothing, he just stood there. Didn't reach, no hand up. I pulls up with cousins about 4 ft in front of me and the game gave me a F and of course the miss. Now what bugs me is the fact that the game graded that shot an F. Not so much that he missed. Cousins just stood there with no hand up. And it was clear space between us.

You see... that's not a good shot. Sounds like you had "mouse in the house". And then rushed it. If Cousins gets matched up with Curry on the block. The first thing I'm doing is press L2. There is nothing curry can do in that situation. The only thing a opponent can do is bring help. As long as you don't face up to curry and try to dribble around him.

And Cousins isn't a good example in this situation either. I don't think his standing layup and close shot ratings are high as people expect them to be. Last time I checked they were in the 70's.

The Durant video posted earlier was 5 shots from the same game, contested, that should have been bricks by most logic.

You're not even plating devil's advocate here. You're just flat out ignoring everything because it doesn't fall in line with what you want.

Hell, the curry video posted earlier was the first 3 shots of the game. Back to back to back. One off the dribble, one in a guys face, and one off a late screen from 26 feet out.

I alluded to it earlier, but I'll say it flat out: The only thing that has remained constant through every "issue" you have had with the game being broken, or something not working how you think it should.....is you. There's been video evidence, a developer telling you otherwise, multiple users (and I'm not counting myself, as there are people on here like 24th, and DC who are way better than I am) who know the game telling you otherwise.

Are you just trolling here? If you are serious, I'm starting to think you need to take a step back and analyze what You are doing. Because the only one who continuesto ignore the facts presented is you. And the only one who insists that these issues are "Clear as day", is you. So, you know, perhaps it's actually now an issue of your perception vs. Reality now. You might have to accept the fact that this game is running fine for the most part, and the issues you have are starting to become what you try to accomplish within the new structure the game has become vs. What it was in previous years.

Couldn't have said it better.

[MadManCometh]

Re: 2K16 has totally killed contested shooting

The Durant video posted earlier was 5 shots from the same game, contested, that should have been bricks by most logic.

You're not even plating devil's advocate here. You're just flat out ignoring everything because it doesn't fall in line with what you want.

Hell, the curry video posted earlier was the first 3 shots of the game. Back to back to back. One off the dribble, one in a guys face, and one off a late screen from 26 feet out.

I alluded to it earlier, but I'll say it flat out: The only thing that has remained constant through every "issue" you have had with the game being broken, or something not working how you think it should.....is you. There's been video evidence, a developer telling you otherwise, multiple users (and I'm not counting myself, as there are people on here like 24th, and DC who are way better than I am) who know the game telling you otherwise.

Are you just trolling here? If you are serious, I'm starting to think you need to take a step back and analyze what You are doing. Because the only one who continuesto ignore the facts presented is you. And the only one who insists that these issues are "Clear as day", is you. So, you know, perhaps it's actually now an issue of your perception vs. Reality now. You might have to accept the fact that this game is running fine for the most part, and the issues you have are starting to become what you try to accomplish within the new structure the game has become vs. What it was in previous years.

See u guys get caught up in that "let's analyze the video " game. It's like u get a kick out of playing video detective. I can post vids posting the opposite exrtreme. But im not about to. Ive played well over 300 games online. I don't need ur analysis and don't care much about ur opinions on this particular matter when I know I hAve my own experience. Some of u are just on here to combat anything that's being brought to light. It's a game to u guys. It's a pattern. Every post that's posted with an issue, u got the same guys being forum combat warrior, then ur buddy chimes in with the tag team. It's pretty hilarious.

[ThatMichiganFan]

Re: 2K16 has totally killed contested shooting

Guys, guys, you can't post abnormalties and then says, "look, look, a contested shot goes in". Lol that's like me posting a vid from a shot goin in from halfcourt. The percentage of any contested shot goin in by any player, star or not, is pretty low. Let's be real. When I play guys online and when I know I got a good contest, I'm already goin for the rebound because I know it's a miss.

I would say even the slightest contested shots are more than likely not going in. Just the other day I had a mismatch when a cousins switched out on Curry. The guy controller Cousins did nothing, he just stood there. Didn't reach, no hand up. I pulls up with cousins about 4 ft in front of me and the game gave me a F and of course the miss. Now what bugs me is the fact that the game graded that shot an F. Not so much that he missed. Cousins just stood there with no hand up. And it was clear space between us.

Its not posting abnormalities, it is evidence supporting our claim. Contested shots do NOT go in at a high rate, except for one in a lifetime players like Kobe, KD, etc. I do not have the shot % data, but I know that the difference in success between a contested shot and uncontested (There are many different meanings of "contested," this point only specifies that the defender is making an effort to contest the shot), but there is a very large gap in make percentage, even for stars.

[ThatMichiganFan]

Re: 2K16 has totally killed contested shooting

See u guys get caught up in that "let's analyze the video " game. It's like u get a kick out of playing video detective. I can post vids posting the opposite exrtreme. But im not about to. Ive played well over 300 games online. I don't need ur analysis and don't care much about ur opinions on this particular matter when I know I hAve my own experience. Some of u are just on here to combat anything that's being brought to light. It's a game to u guys. It's a pattern. Every post that's posted with an issue, u got the same guys being forum combat warrior, then ur buddy chimes in with the tag team. It's pretty hilarious.

If you do not need our analysis or our opinions, why post on a PUBLIC forum? The same thing happens with any issue, people have opposing views. If you are so closed minded that you will just ignore our half of the argument because you do not agree, that is your problem.

[ViolenceFight]

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See u guys get caught up in that "let's analyze the video " game. It's like u get a kick out of playing video detective. I can post vids posting the opposite exrtreme. But im not about to. Ive played well over 300 games online. I don't need ur analysis and don't care much about ur opinions on this particular matter when I know I hAve my own experience. Some of u are just on here to combat anything that's being brought to light. It's a game to u guys. It's a pattern. Every post that's posted with an issue, u got the same guys being forum combat warrior, then ur buddy chimes in with the tag team. It's pretty hilarious.

Ok, so you're just trolling. Good. Thanks for answering my question. I'm going to go with that because it hurts my brain to think there's actually a person who is that stubborn when presented with facts.

There's no conspiracy to combat flaws bro, there's just people who understand the game and try to share that knowledge with you. And then you reject all logic in favor if what you think should happen. So, I'm done. I'll keep playing this fantastic simulation, you have fun thinking it's broke