2K16 has totally killed contested shooting

[cablexdeadpool]

Re: 2K16 has totally killed contested shooting

Curry is the most underpowered player in 2k in comparison to real life.

No he's not, just people don't know how to play with him

[ViolenceFight]

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Dude I read the topic and immediately knew EXACTLY the issue he was talking about. No vid needed for me. IF u play the game a lot of issues are actually quite obvious IMO.


Everybody knows the difficulty with stepback jumpers and shots of that nature. For u to act like u need a video of this is borderline hilarious.

But it's actually not quite obvious. Because they changed so much this year that a lot of the problems are actually user error that the user tries to blame on the game. Shooting this year is fine. The only ones who complain seem to be people that don't want to adapt to the new system. The video request is to see what's being used because, despite what you believe, most of us play the game enough to be able to tell you why something isn't working and help you figure out what you can do to make it work.

When examples are given, specifically to you, you fire back with garbage like:"yall can't even answer a question", "that's too much science" or "You don't play the game enough". There's one unchanged variable in all these threads abut problems so far. Just throwing that out there

[pazmacats]

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While I admire their efforts to lower the frequency of jumpers going in (it was pretty ridiculous at times last season), it seems this season it has come at the expense of shots taken when you size up your opponent, use pivot moves, or take tough late shot clock jumpers.

Now before you jump on me and say they don't happen often in real life, here's what I'll say. In a way it's true, but then you go watch LeBron, Curry, Kobe etc and they hit these shots with far greater regularity than in 2K.

Right now unless Curry is wide open, he airballs or badly misses any shot where a defender gets anywhere near him. It's ridiculous, just go look at his 53 point explosion yesterday and look at some of the ridiculous shots he makes.

Superstars and great shooters should not be impacted so heavily by what a defender does to them. Curry doesn't even care if Anthony Davis is on him. LeBron will happily take fallaways from anywhere and hit them, yet in 2K this seems to be a lost art.

I also have a feeling it is to do with the forced animations that occur when the defender gets within a distance of the shooter. I know they're fixing that, but I really hope they look at fixing this other blatant shooting issue.

I should be able to use jab steps, hesitations etc with players with the right amount of skill to create that gap necessary to get a shot off and hit it at a decent clip.

Right now it feels as though you need to completely lose the defender to hit shots regularly.

I play on PC and the only way to score is either
a) post moves
b) up and under (freethrows)
c) dunks
d) wide open jumpers

Everything else (layup, step back, leaner, etc) might as well not be in the game.

Contested jumpers go in sometimes. When playing against AI this depends on the score. If I'm behind and shoot a contested corner three with a 99 shooter I'll hit 1/10 times.

[LionsFanNJ]

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Yeah. I'm convinced he doesn't even have the game. Especially with how he's talking in this thread.

[The 24th Letter]

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This posts reminds of me of another we had earlier this year about it being impossible to create shots with elite guys....someone requested raw gameplay footage of KD creating shots...this was my post:

Spoiler

Here's me playing terrible basketball and Isoing with KD for half of the first, all jumpers.....missed some/made some.... showed settings at the beginning

https://vid.me/7v0o

EDIT: first video was a ***** to upload but I wanted to show raw footage....here's some more shots I created after I subbed my self back in...


https://vid.me/tCnj

I ended up going like 10-22 for the first half shooting like this..

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That's SS/SIM, before I learned KD's awful timing and before any on ball D and shot tuning....all semi contested..

[ViolenceFight]

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This posts reminds of me of another we had earlier this year about it being impossible to create shots with elite guys....someone requested raw gameplay footage of KD creating shots...this was my post:

Spoiler

That's SS/SIM, before I learned KD's awful timing and before any on ball D and shot tuning....all semi contested..

Yeah, the point guard in me cringed watching those. Like, those are shots I'd only take with a few seconds left. 2 of those were just flat out bad shots. This is why we ask for video. I can look at this and see what he's saying. In this case 24th went out of his way to take bad shots, and gave a long enough sample size so you can tell he's not just cherry picking his video clips.

Not only that, but I bet he'd also be willing to show it over the course of a few games, because sometimes you get super hot, and sometimes you couldn't throw it into the ocean.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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If it's not online then it doesn't count 24.

Come on, you should know how it goes by now.

[DaPope13]

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I'm glad the guys brought up were 2 of the greatest ever and curry who is probably on his way. I mean cos everyone in the NBA shoots like them. That's the standard control group

[Sundown]

2K16 has totally killed contested shooting

Honestly, it's more hilarious that you can't show us first hand what you're experiencing....you can literally hit share and get a video uploaded quicker than writing most of these paragraphs in your posts...and the defense for not doing this is...."you haven't played the game enough if you don't agree"

Anyway, a lot of this is being addressed indirectly by the patch. The unnecessary contested shot animations are being addressed, so that should help with face ups, and as Sun said, step backs are also being improved. I think both those will help a lot....IMO we don't need an arbitrary raise in %'s....

So excite about step back/hopshot patch.

Also you started the (sane) thread about step shots being an issue. If you hadn't I might not have labbed it or tried as hard to make sure Mike saw it was a problem in the percentages thread. (I might not even have figured out how to step back at all. Lol)

See folks, things get changed if we present our case without freaking out.

[2_headedmonster]

Re: 2K16 has totally killed contested shooting

This posts reminds of me of another we had earlier this year about it being impossible to create shots with elite guys....someone requested raw gameplay footage of KD creating shots...this was my post:

Spoiler

That's SS/SIM, before I learned KD's awful timing and before any on ball D and shot tuning....all semi contested..

lol yeaaaaa, that was a fun thread.

[ViolenceFight]

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I'm glad the guys brought up were 2 of the greatest ever and curry who is probably on his way. I mean cos everyone in the NBA shoots like them. That's the standard control group

I was talking with a guy about this earlier. Curry is the SNK boss of the NBA. He's an absolute beast. Because of that, to replicate him without breaking the game in terms of balance you would have to literally code him differently. Then quick match would be GSW mirror matches because he's arguably so hard ro deal with that it would completely warp the game.

In a fighting game he'd be "soft banned" from competitive play. In Magic: The Gathering he'd be banned because he would completely warp the meta game into decks that run curry, and decks specifically designed to beat him.

As far as 2k16 goes, as "Dumbed down" as people think he is....would you let him get a wide open look? Would you not double him if he got hot? He's still hard to deal with.

[Peninc]

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Made a thread like this the other day, and it got locked and deleted because I was supposedly "complaining about shooting". I wasnt really, except to say that this game is missing something important that the real NBA has in abundance. There are no exciting plays that makes you say "Oh damn thats just like what Kobe did last night!"...the game is so neutered for stars in the name of realism that you cannot make a contested fadeaway EVER. Certainly not against the CPU which is all I play against. A half court shot never ever goes in in the maybe two thousand games that I've played.

The shot penalty for taking what the game considers a bad shot is so severe that the stars of the game simply are not stars anymore. Anyway before I go off on that.....I'll just say I agree with the OP

[ProfessaPackMan]

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^You and people like you would hate that thread DC made that's on the 1st page, in regards to what should/shouldn't happen in the game.

[raidertiger]

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No he's not, just people don't know how to play with him

No...nothing separates his 3 point shooting from anyone else. It is impossible to replicate Curry in 2k.

[The 24th Letter]

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Was messing around with Curry a bit on SS/SIM....haven't really Played with him all that much....

He's got range on him, lol

In my experience it doesn't seem like just anyone can just knock these down

https://vid.me/kdfB