CPU needs to shoot more 3s...again (Video example included)

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  • Smirkin Dirk
    All Star
    • Oct 2008
    • 5173

    #1

    CPU needs to shoot more 3s...again (Video example included)

    This was a problem last year. It's not as bad. Most of us are seeing the CPU put up 15-2os 3s per game which is slightly below average. Over my last 10 MyLeague games the CPU has put up 16, 21, 21, 18, 20, 22, 13, 21, 14, 14 and 30. Not bad, could be better.

    Here is where it could be better. Generally, the CPU will shoot the 3 if left open. But they never hunt for 3s as NBA players do. They need to aggressively look for the 3, as Curry does below. Ask yourself how many times you've seen the CPU do this. Very rarely. It was the only 3 he took for the game. Need more.

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  • The 24th Letter
    ERA
    • Oct 2007
    • 39373

    #2
    Re: CPU needs to shoot more 3s...again (Video example included)

    How many minutes do you play on HK?

    (If that's in the video, I apologize, I can't see it)

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    • Smirkin Dirk
      All Star
      • Oct 2008
      • 5173

      #3
      Re: CPU needs to shoot more 3s...again (Video example included)

      Originally posted by The 24th Letter
      How many minutes do you play on HK?

      (If that's in the video, I apologize, I can't see it)
      I play 12. The video shows CPU doing a nasty stepback 3, which I rarely see from CPU Curry/Lillard/Durant and other star shooters.
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      • Walt Frazier
        Pro
        • Jan 2014
        • 989

        #4
        Re: CPU needs to shoot more 3s...again (Video example included)

        I am using shady's sliders and they jack up a ton of threes...

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        • Luke Skywalker
          Pro
          • Dec 2014
          • 917

          #5
          Re: CPU needs to shoot more 3s...again (Video example included)

          would raising 3PT Tendency help?

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          • ThatMichiganFan
            Pro
            • Apr 2014
            • 801

            #6
            Re: CPU needs to shoot more 3s...again (Video example included)

            Using my sliders (shameless plug, sorry), the CPU will take advantage of every mistake you make from deep. Stars will not only shoot open threes, but they will look for the three ball.

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            Against the Bulls, I went under a screen and he buried a three (48 s in the clip). In my next game against the Pacers, PG13 shot 8 threes, something you would never see with the default tendencies. In that game, the Pacers as a team only took 17 threes.
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            • redsox4evur
              Hall Of Fame
              • Jul 2013
              • 18169

              #7
              Re: CPU needs to shoot more 3s...again (Video example included)

              Originally posted by Luke Skywalker
              would raising 3PT Tendency help?
              Yes it would.
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              • rjohns23
                Pro
                • Sep 2010
                • 656

                #8
                Re: CPU needs to shoot more 3s...again (Video example included)

                I agree with the OP... The problem is the game will never hunt for threes because of coding. It's a difference between shoot more threes and hunt for threes. Hunting for threes is more of a human element. 2k is getting better but you basically will have to alter the players tendencies so much that you take away other things. It would be nice if they add a tendency called hunt for threes lol

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                • jinntu
                  Rookie
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 161

                  #9
                  Re: CPU needs to shoot more 3s...again (Video example included)

                  Originally posted by rjohns23
                  I agree with the OP... The problem is the game will never hunt for threes because of coding. It's a difference between shoot more threes and hunt for threes. Hunting for threes is more of a human element. 2k is getting better but you basically will have to alter the players tendencies so much that you take away other things. It would be nice if they add a tendency called hunt for threes lol
                  They took two steps back in that regard imo. It seems iso(or off the dribble) tendencies only allow for the drive because that's all they really seem to go for. I think it's because they took away the moving shot tendencies. Second I have an unfounded theory that ai shot selection is based on the same scale as the user and they avoid shots that are below a certain value (C+shots for example) offset by their shot iq and without a shot in traffic rating to offset the strength of the defense they are either driving or passing then taking the shots off the dribble or even just a contested shot.

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                  • ZoneSix
                    Rookie
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 276

                    #10
                    Re: CPU needs to shoot more 3s...again (Video example included)

                    seems like the cpu doesn't take enough shots off the dribble period.

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                    • BegBy
                      Banned
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 1212

                      #11
                      Re: CPU needs to shoot more 3s...again (Video example included)

                      Originally posted by ZoneSix
                      seems like the cpu doesn't take enough shots off the dribble period.

                      Roster edits. I messed with some tendencies and I've had pretty awesome results. In order to get any sort of chance of seeing any stepbacks, hops, euro's, etc, you basically have to put said tendency to 100. To get them to pull up more I set the pull up tendency to around 50. It works pretty well, especially with slider tweaks.

                      This is just my experience with slider adjustments. I'm sure with other tendency tweaks and slider adjustments what I am suggesting would be too much, or not enough of something else.

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                      • DC
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 17996

                        #12
                        Re: CPU needs to shoot more 3s...again (Video example included)

                        Originally posted by ZoneSix
                        seems like the cpu doesn't take enough shots off the dribble period.
                        And for some reason 2K took away our ability to edit shots off of the dribble this year.
                        Concrete evidence/videos please

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                        • lebromelo
                          Rookie
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 172

                          #13
                          Re: CPU needs to shoot more 3s...again (Video example included)

                          this is def a problem in 2k16.
                          it seems ballhandling PGs especially have this prob.
                          Curry shoots only arnd 3 3pointers a game for me.
                          even if i set his play type to only 3pt shooting, the game refuses to run that play for him, thus he goes into freelance and drives.
                          Klay on the other hand shoots arnd 5-7 threes, so its likely an issue with PGs.

                          And my short term solution for this that i hope 2k implements (doubt a patch would fix but maybe 2k17) is make the player tendency and gameplay sliders extremely sensitive. For example if we set 3pt shot tendency to 99 it should b an insane amount of 3s, like 40plus team 3s/game. so thus most of us would set the tendency to 70-75ish to get 3point shots in the 20s. and the opposite would also ring true. if we set for example, inside shot tendency to 0, the cpu should literally take 0 inside shots.
                          and im sure cpu shooting largely depends on how the individual user plays but with this solution we all have the leeway to customize to our liking.
                          Last edited by lebromelo; 11-05-2015, 10:31 AM.

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                          • jinntu
                            Rookie
                            • Mar 2005
                            • 161

                            #14
                            Re: CPU needs to shoot more 3s...again (Video example included)

                            Originally posted by lebromelo
                            this is def a problem in 2k16.
                            it seems ballhandling PGs especially have this prob.
                            Curry shoots only arnd 3 3pointers a game for me.
                            even if i set his play type to only 3pt shooting, the game refuses to run that play for him, thus he goes into freelance and drives.
                            Klay on the other hand shoots arnd 5-7 threes, so its likely an issue with PGs.

                            And my short term solution for this that i hope 2k implements (doubt a patch would fix but maybe 2k17) is make the player tendency and gameplay sliders extremely sensitive. For example if we set 3pt shot tendency to 99 it should b an insane amount of 3s, like 40plus team 3s/game. so thus most of us would set the tendency to 70-75ish to get 3point shots in the 20s. and the opposite would also ring true. if we set for example, inside shot tendency to 0, the cpu should literally take 0 inside shots.
                            and im sure cpu shooting largely depends on how the individual user plays but with this solution we all have the leeway to customize to our liking.
                            This is what I've always hoped for in the sliders but there's a LOT that's hardcoded into the game so even if you set inside shot to 0 they still take inside shots for example. Hell inside shot tendency seems to be a main driver for AI offensive aggression (set it to 0 and see how much clock they waste).

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                            • AJJProductions
                              Rookie
                              • Nov 2015
                              • 32

                              #15
                              Re: CPU needs to shoot more 3s...again (Video example included)

                              Always the same...

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