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  • richard2001
    Banned
    • Dec 2015
    • 246

    #196
    Re: Stephen Curry in NBA 2K

    Originally posted by LO6IX
    Lives and thrives you mean? Do you not see how great he is at finishing with either hand in traffic, his playmaking, his ability to break down any defender off the dribble? He's become a great screener and has become a great player off the ball. This guy has gotten way better each year since he's been healthy. How's he gonna decline all of a sudden?
    He's thriving, but if he stops hitting the ridiculous shots, his average will go down. He's not a guy that can score 25+ a game going to the rim. He hits some fancy finishes, but at the end of the day, he doesn't have the size to take it to the basket 15 times a night and be effective doing it.

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    • richard2001
      Banned
      • Dec 2015
      • 246

      #197
      Re: Stephen Curry in NBA 2K

      Originally posted by LO6IX
      Lives and thrives you mean? Do you not see how great he is at finishing with either hand in traffic, his playmaking, his ability to break down any defender off the dribble? He's become a great screener and has become a great player off the ball. This guy has gotten way better each year since he's been healthy. How's he gonna decline all of a sudden?
      He's not a great playmaker either. He is one of the best off ball players in the league, and combine that with his quick release and his teams great system, and you've got the reason he's scoring 30 a game this year.

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      • Smirkin Dirk
        All Star
        • Oct 2008
        • 5174

        #198
        Re: Stephen Curry in NBA 2K

        I really dont envy the devs task here. Im sure they could program a CPU Curry to the 35 foot pull ups (the hypothetical 'Curry badge') but that opens up the probability that PNO will be overtaken by every 2nd person trying these very same 35 foot pull ups.
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        • RyanFitzmagic
          MVP
          • Oct 2011
          • 1959

          #199
          Re: Stephen Curry in NBA 2K

          Originally posted by richard2001
          I'm saying, that Jordan could score in more ways than Curry can. I don't know why you don't get it.

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          And Carmelo can score in more ways than LeBron. Durant can score in more ways than Jordan.

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          • richard2001
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            • Dec 2015
            • 246

            #200
            Re: Stephen Curry in NBA 2K

            Originally posted by RyanFitzmagic
            And Carmelo can score in more ways than LeBron. Durant can score in more ways than Jordan.
            Now maybe Melo can score in more ways than LeBron. But LeBron being arguably the best finisher in the league makes up for it. But Miami LeBron, who shot 40% from deep one year, could score in more ways. Same thing for Jordan vs KD. Jordan was such a good finisher at the rim, and he had that post game. Those made up for his lack of a good three ball.


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            • UnbelievablyRAW
              MVP
              • Sep 2011
              • 1245

              #201
              Re: Stephen Curry in NBA 2K

              Originally posted by richard2001
              You're going too far. Better scorer than Jordan? You're just talking out of your *** right now. Are you really gonna say he's a better scorer than the GOAT, who averaged what Currys averaging right now, for his whole career. MJ averaged 30 for 6 or 7 straight years. Curry might finish a hair above 30 a game, and he'll only have done it once.

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              I don't think you understand that scoring in multiple ways doesn't matter as long as the ball goes in the basket. I'd rather have Curry hitting 3's at above 45% off the dribble in people's face (as consistently as he's been doing it) than have Jordan do post up fadeaways or score contested layups.

              You're trying to argue that its something that can go away at any moment (that can be said about literally anyone btw, bad argument) but he's been playing at this level all season.

              3's>2's and Curry is posting the most efficient offensive performance in NBA history. Are you trying to argue against numbers? Or....?

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              • SonicMage
                NBA Ratings Wizard
                • Oct 2002
                • 3544

                #202
                Re: Stephen Curry in NBA 2K

                Originally posted by Hot Kidd
                I really dont envy the devs task here. Im sure they could program a CPU Curry to the 35 foot pull ups (the hypothetical 'Curry badge') but that opens up the probability that PNO will be overtaken by every 2nd person trying these very same 35 foot pull ups.
                Then so be it. If that's Curry's game, that's how he should play. There are other ways the devs can give incentive to using teams besides the Warriors. 2K can't resort to traditional rock-paper-scissors gameplay balancing methods when modeling the NBA, because there is now one team that is far and away better than the rest. In gaming terms, the Warriors are OP. So, give players greater rewards for winning with teams that aren't as great, because they pose a greater challenge.

                On another note, badges in general have ruined the art of roster making. Some are redundant with ratings to a confusing degree, some are ridiculous and hokey, and some just plain don't work as advertised. They're OK as incentives for MyPlayer but they don't really have a place on the standard rosters. That's a little off-topic but my point is the solution here is not a new special badge for Curry. In fact, that's one more step further in the wrong direction.
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                • richard2001
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                  • Dec 2015
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                  #203
                  Re: Stephen Curry in NBA 2K

                  Originally posted by UnbelievablyRAW
                  I don't think you understand that scoring in multiple ways doesn't matter as long as the ball goes in the basket. I'd rather have Curry hitting 3's at above 45% off the dribble in people's face (as consistently as he's been doing it) than have Jordan do post up fadeaways or score contested layups.

                  You're trying to argue that its something that can go away at any moment (that can be said about literally anyone btw, bad argument) but he's been playing at this level all season.

                  3's>2's and Curry is posting the most efficient offensive performance in NBA history. Are you trying to argue against numbers? Or....?
                  I have not said that he's inefficient. He is having a great season. I'm talking about raw scoring ability. The ability to score in every way possible. Look at LeBron compared to Melo. LeBron has a higher career scoring average, but outside of those couple years where LeBron had a good jumper, Melo was the better pure scorer. Steph might be leading in ppg, but he isn't the best pure score in the league. Like I've said about 5 times, he's the best jumpshooter in the league, but not the best overall scorer.

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                  • RyanFitzmagic
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 1959

                    #204
                    Re: Stephen Curry in NBA 2K

                    Originally posted by richard2001
                    I'm talking about raw scoring ability. The ability to score in every way possible.
                    That's not raw scoring ability, that's scoring versatility.

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                    • Mbunn1993
                      Pro
                      • Nov 2012
                      • 870

                      #205
                      Re: Stephen Curry in NBA 2K

                      I think his finishing ability is pretty underrated IRL. We're so used to seeing guys finish with power, but he gets his shots off with finesse and sometimes its beautiful to see.

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                      • skinnybonez
                        MVP
                        • May 2003
                        • 1459

                        #206
                        Re: Stephen Curry in NBA 2K

                        Please have an animation where he takes a set shot 40+ feet out

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                        • jeebs9
                          Fear is the Unknown
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 47564

                          #207
                          Re: Stephen Curry in NBA 2K



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                          • MoneyOvaHuds
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                            • Jul 2014
                            • 3491

                            #208
                            Re: Stephen Curry in NBA 2K

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                            • giantsharks
                              Rookie
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 320

                              #209
                              Re: Stephen Curry in NBA 2K

                              Originally posted by richard2001
                              And my bad, he did have 12. But that's even further proof that he lives and dies by the jumper. 36 of 46 points from deep. He's a limited scorer, you know it and I know it.

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                              LOLOLOL dude why are you hating so much? Limited scorer? thats the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard, good thing you arent a gm, youd probably trade Curry for Melo because he can post up and fadeaway. Who cares that he cant post up or fadeaway? Do you actually watch the warriors or steph play? He scores in so many ways, off the dribble, with defenders in his face, with either hand, taking it to the hole and yes ridiculous 3s. What makes you think his skill is just going to "go away?" Your entire argument is based on him hypothetically getting bad all of a sudden. Maybe if you hypothetically stop hating you could see some of the most amazing basketball being played of all time.JUST STOP HATING AND ENJOY THE SHOW.

                              Back on topic, I wish 2k would make Steph one way for offline play so we can have fun with the ridiculous things he does but I understand keeping it the way it is for online rosters.
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                              • Mbunn1993
                                Pro
                                • Nov 2012
                                • 870

                                #210
                                Re: Stephen Curry in NBA 2K

                                Originally posted by giantsharks
                                good thing you arent a gm, youd probably trade Curry for Melo because he can post up and fadeaway. Who cares that he cant post up or fadeaway?l.
                                He actually said recently that he "might add post moves" next year. It's almost like he said it in a "maybe I'll do it.. If I want too" kinda way hahah

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