Stephen Curry in NBA 2K

[8KB24]

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This nonsense. Are you really prepared to argue that the ratings aren't assigned initially with deference to how players performed the previous year/s?

They are. But almost all of the ratings are based on this year's performance. Maybe 15% from previous two years.

[SteveQ]

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Present the argument.

There isn't one lol

[Speedy]

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Folks.

Keep this on 2K.

If you want to debate thru odyssean novels how Steph Curry compares in NBA's history, go to the NBA forum or discuss via PMs.

[ggsimmonds]

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1. Steph Curry is the best shooter in NBA history. That is not up for debate.

2. Steph Curry may be having the best scoring season in history. I personally disagree with that position, but for the sake of argument I'll accept it.

3. That does not mean his overall should be so high. I don't even care much about overall, I care about the component attributes that make it up, but 2k is overrating Steph in multiple areas in order to boost his overall.
In other words, just because he is having the best season shooting the ball does not mean he should have the highest overall.

I love Steph Curry; but in no way is he on the same level as a guy like John Wall when it comes to distributing the ball. To the comment that Wall has more assists because Steph shoots more, understand that Steph's offense should make it easier for him to set guys up. If you are doubling Steph that means someone is open. John doesn't get doubled teamed on the perimeter. The argument that Steph is as good in this area as John is laughably flawed.

[trandoanhung1991]

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1. Steph Curry is the best shooter in NBA history. That is not up for debate.

2. Steph Curry may be having the best scoring season in history. I personally disagree with that position, but for the sake of argument I'll accept it.

3. That does not mean his overall should be so high. I don't even care much about overall, I care about the component attributes that make it up, but 2k is overrating Steph in multiple areas in order to boost his overall.
In other words, just because he is having the best season shooting the ball does not mean he should have the highest overall.

I love Steph Curry; but in no way is he on the same level as a guy like John Wall when it comes to distributing the ball. To the comment that Wall has more assists because Steph shoots more, understand that Steph's offense should make it easier for him to set guys up. If you are doubling Steph that means someone is open. John doesn't get doubled teamed on the perimeter. The argument that Steph is as good in this area as John is laughably flawed.

Well if having the GOAT regular season is so easy, then why hasn't anyone do until now?

His OVR should definitely be high, however I do agree that 2K stat pads his OVR too much. I'd rather see him have ridiculously monstrous offensive stats than high OVR. As it is, there's really not much that differentiates between a 90 and a 99 in 3pt shooting in my experience, much less 95 to 99. If his shooting stats this year, especially 3pt shooting, is 99, then every other shooter ever should not exceed 90, maybe even less than that.

Steph plays in a different system where by passing to an open man doesn't guarantee an assist. GSW trades good looks for great looks, that's why their ball movement is lauded. If you look at the team stats, you'd see that outside of Curry and Green, everyone else on their main roster averages around 2-3 APG, except for Barbosa, and their team averages close to 30 APG.

I'm curious about these metrics you're using to determine that Curry is better off the ball and has better handles.

That last bit was regarding how Curry's a better scorer than Jordan. Sorry if I got you confused

[kabamaru]

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I am enjoying the coversation.

I am ready for the shake of continuing the conversation to even admit that Curry is 30 times better scorer than Jordan ever was.

Can somebody PLEASE explain me how Curry has higher ACCELERATION than both Westbrook and Wall ? I have asked that before but never got an answer

http://2kmtcentral.com/16/players/compare/9018/9033/8973

I could thrown in some historical players too in the acceleration part, but let's keep it to current PGs only.

[kabamaru]

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I'm 100% certain Curry this year is a way better scorer than Jordan. He plays offball much better

If 1991 stands for your age, you have never seen Jordan playing. You are excused.

[ggsimmonds]

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Well if having the GOAT regular season is so easy, then why hasn't anyone do until now?

His OVR should definitely be high, however I do agree that 2K stat pads his OVR too much. I'd rather see him have ridiculously monstrous offensive stats than high OVR. As it is, there's really not much that differentiates between a 90 and a 99 in 3pt shooting in my experience, much less 95 to 99. If his shooting stats this year, especially 3pt shooting, is 99, then every other shooter ever should not exceed 90, maybe even less than that.

Steph plays in a different system where by passing to an open man doesn't guarantee an assist. GSW trades good looks for great looks, that's why their ball movement is lauded. If you look at the team stats, you'd see that outside of Curry and Green, everyone else on their main roster averages around 2-3 APG, except for Barbosa, and their team averages close to 30 APG.



That last bit was regarding how Curry's a better scorer than Jordan. Sorry if I got you confused

No where did I say or even imply that having the GOAT season is easy.

Nor did I say that Steph is having the best season of all time. Maybe he is having the best scoring or shooting season season in history, but that is not easy.

Regardless, someone had done it before. Whoever had the season that was previously regarded as best of all time did it.

You are right about GS's offense. Their offense is beautiful to watch. But Curry is not the same level passer as John Wall. I didn't realize his acceleration was greater than Wall's either. That is wrong.

[8KB24]

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If 1991 stands for your age, you have never seen Jordan playing. You are excused.

You are one of those who will never accept that someone can be better than MJ? Even for a singular season?

[kabamaru]

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You are one of those who will never accept that someone can be better than MJ? Even for a singular season?

Don't you think you are rushing a bit?

Regular season hasn't even finished. And you are talking about greatest season ever?

For all we know Steph could get an injury tomorrow and not play in any play-off game.

For all we know, he might be disqualified first round with GSW, or even get the second ring in a row, but he could have really bad Finals.

Would that still be a best season ever? Up to now Curry never won a Finals MVP.

Iggy did last year. He carried his team when the teams leader was struggling against Dellavedova and a 6-7 man Cavs rotation due to injuries.

I was never really a Bulls fan. But MJ became the GOAT not because he scored 30 points or magnificent baskets in regular season.

He was named GOAT because he was deciding in winning titles. He won play-off series with fever, with final shots, with last defense, with 3s, with steals on last defense, with assist to an open teammate after drawing 2-3 players on him.

He was 6 TIMES FINALS MVP! Do you even know/seen what he has done in the play-offs? The finals?

So yes I am ready to accept when someone does a better season than MJ, but Curry still hasn't. Maybe he will, but please don't tell me that he has done best season ever because GSW are winning most games in regular season...

Do we even remember which team had the record for most wins before the Bulls? I don't! Did we call the leader of that team the GOAT before MJ because he led his team to most wins in regural season? It is nonsense.

I will be really happy to witness such dominance as MJ from another player in Play-off series.

I will be double-happy if this is done by a player like Curry, who is proving you do not need to be a super-athlete like MJ/Lebron etc to make it if you 've got enough talent.

[trandoanhung1991]

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If 1991 stands for your age, you have never seen Jordan playing. You are excused.

Right... Ever heard of YouTube? You are excused.

Don't you think you are rushing a bit?

Regular season hasn't even finished. And you are talking about greatest season ever?

For all we know Steph could get an injury tomorrow and not play in any play-off game.

For all we know, he might be disqualified first round with GSW, or even get the second ring in a row, but he could have really bad Finals.

Would that still be a best season ever? Up to now Curry never won a Finals MVP.

Iggy did last year. He carried his team when the teams leader was struggling against Dellavedova and a 6-7 man Cavs rotation due to injuries.

I was never really a Bulls fan. But MJ became the GOAT not because he scored 30 points or magnificent baskets in regular season.

He was named GOAT because he was deciding in winning titles. He won play-off series with fever, with final shots, with last defense, with 3s, with steals on last defense, with assist to an open teammate after drawing 2-3 players on him.

He was 6 TIMES FINALS MVP! Do you even know/seen what he has done in the play-offs? The finals?

So yes I am ready to accept when someone does a better season than MJ, but Curry still hasn't. Maybe he will, but please don't tell me that he has done best season ever because GSW are winning most games in regular season...

Do we even remember which team had the record for most wins before the Bulls? I don't! Did we call the leader of that team the GOAT before MJ because he led his team to most wins in regural season? It is nonsense.

I will be really happy to witness such dominance as MJ from another player in Play-off series.

I will be double-happy if this is done by a player like Curry, who is proving you do not need to be a super-athlete like MJ/Lebron etc to make it if you 've got enough talent.

He's currently having the best regular season ever. Nobody's talking about playoffs because it's not here yet. Where are you even getting this from?

[x_NBA_x]

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He's currently having the best regular season ever. Nobody's talking about playoffs because it's not here yet. Where are you even getting this from?

This is the only thing that annoys me with Curry fanboys..

He is having the best efficient shooting regular season ever, the best three point scoring regular season ever but no way the best regular season ever...

Chamberlain - 50.4 PPG - 25.6 RBG
Jordan - 32.5 PPG - 8.0 RPG - 8.0 APG - 2.9 SPG - 0.8 BPG
Robertson - 30.8 PPG - 12.5 RPG - 11.4 APG (A triple double season)

Countless other dominant seasons too..

I'm not trying to downgrade Curry cause I enjoy watching him and appreciate he is an immense talent but the amount of clouded judgement from people on the history of the game and what players have accomplished in the past astounds me.

[RyanFitzmagic]

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This is why I'm starting to agree with 23. You can't just throw raw numbers out there and act like that's all that makes a good season.

You guys really should visit some basketball forums and learn more about the analytics of the game, and I'm not even trying to be mean.

[x_NBA_x]

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This is why I'm starting to agree with 23. You can't just throw raw numbers out there and act like that's all that makes a good season.

You guys really should visit some basketball forums and learn more about the analytics of the game, and I'm not even trying to be mean.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

[RyanFitzmagic]

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Pot. Kettle. Black.

I'm not gonna feed into this. You can say whatever you want, bro.