so frustrated with this game

[Smirkin Dirk]

Re: so frustrated with this game

IIRC a couple of BIG issues with 2k14 was the AI not taking any shots from mid-range and the AI always running the shot clock down without any movement and then hoisting up ridiculous fadeaways from just inside the 3. I don't see how any game pre-freelance offense and ACE can be looked at as better than what we have now. There is no way I could go back and play any 2k without the freelance offenses. That's like going back and playing a college football game from the 90's without spread offenses lol.

Well said.

Nostalgia has gotten out of control.

Go back to the 2K14 boards and plenty were talking about the good old days of 2K11.

2K16 is very, very, very good.

[HowDareI]

Re: so frustrated with this game

Seems like adjusting the sliders would be an easy fix for this problem.

It is...if you're allowed to.

My custom roster/custom sliders league is great. But I don't play it that much. Rather play my friends h2h or my career/park or pro am.

All the cheaters ruined MyCareer, so no more adjustable sliders/rosters there.

Still don't think it should be hard to load custom rosters or sliders into a quick match if it's a private lobby...that's something I hope's in 17.

[Padgoi]

Re: so frustrated with this game

I don't know about you guys, but I can't even play this damn game anymore because it's so easy now. How easy? I'm the Knicks playing on Superstar difficulty. When the game first came out, I had to adjust my sliders on Superstar because I couldn't compete. Over time I got better, but the game was still very difficult on Superstar so the sliders made it more realistic. Then these patches and roster updates came and the game got unrealistically easy. I'm not using a slider set where ALL of the User and CPU sliders are the exact same on Superstar difficulty and I'm about to win the title with . . . the KNICKS! That's right. I beat the Bulls in 5 games. I'm currently beating the Cavs in the ECF (who mind you I lost all 4 games to in the regular season before these last idiotic patches hit). The game is so easy now I don't even feel like playing anymore.

[2k gamer all day]

Re: so frustrated with this game

Played 2k since 2 weeks not more bec its boring as hell .. No content

I mean this 2k is broke guys.. Mabye just for me bec i play on a real big tv so i see the "stutters-stuttering" almost after every single basket. It's annoying man

All other nba 2k was always smooth in online quick matches 1vs1 but 2k16 is broke!

Let's talk about the gameplay.. I can make a full court pass to my center at the other end to make a easy score.. The defensive can't get my guy bec they are to slow to get back. The other guy do the same and again and again ... What is that ???? Why we can do that

Park: Almost the same like last + no rec .. Thanks!

MyLeague: Almost the same like last year

For me 2k16 is just 2k15.5 . I play nba since 2k9 so i know what i talk. We get less and less content from year to year or new things which are broke

The best nba 2k was nba 2k9.. LOBBYS!!! Man i loved that

[TalenT]

Re: so frustrated with this game

I think why everyone is frustrated is because, lets be honest, the game is dope. It's just these little things get in the way of it being legendary. Everyone sees the potential. You can be in the middle of a great game...playing sim with your friends or whatever and some dumb ish happen and take you right out of the immersion (I.E. the fastbreak defense that was supposedly fixed). It feels like we're just a few gameplay tweaks away (they seem like easy fixes but may not be) but they won't adjust them which is the most frustrating part.

[SpeedyClaxton]

Re: so frustrated with this game

I think why everyone is frustrated is because, lets be honest, the game is dope. It's just these little things get in the way of it being legendary. Everyone sees the potential. You can be in the middle of a great game...playing sim with your friends or whatever and some dumb ish happen and take you right out of the immersion (I.E. the fastbreak defense that was supposedly fixed). It feels like we're just a few gameplay tweaks away (they seem like easy fixes but may not be) but they won't adjust them which is the most frustrating part.

Nahhh game isn't definitely few tweaks from being perfect. Every other 2K title (except 15 & 16) i played deeply beyond real NBA playoff schedule, with 2K16 i stopped 2months ago, with that being said that's how much game is dope lol

[Smirkin Dirk]

Re: so frustrated with this game

I can't believe the comments about weight. Big Guys used to slide around on D like Gary Payton. Now slow guys feel slow and quick guys feel quick. Massive improvement in 2k16

[kabamaru]

Re: so frustrated with this game

To me the WHOLE AI of defensive system needs to be re-worked.

My teammates feel stupid. AI should adjust. My opponent could play pick and Fades and the CPU will NEVER adjust.

I can play deny and someone torch me with manual cuts but the CPU will never adjust. I know I can switch the settings but it is not normal nor easy to pause the game after every 2nd defense.

Also how can someone claim that p'n'r defense is good?

All in all, the CPU can really defend ON-BALL, which requires no thinking.

It is so frustrating for me to play on-ball and then get torched by stupid AI decisions.

This is way most of the times I play off-ball. I let the CPU guard the ball. and I try to read the game, and provide help defense or switch defense anywhere in the game needed.

You may call it cheese or whatever you want, but to me, reading your opponents plays, providing help-defense when are where needed requires more basketball knowledge than sticking to the ball handler.

[TalenT]

Re: so frustrated with this game

Nahhh game isn't definitely few tweaks from being perfect. Every other 2K title (except 15 & 16) i played deeply beyond real NBA playoff schedule, with 2K16 i stopped 2months ago, with that being said that's how much game is dope lol

I disagree. There's plenty of good to build on. I actually do have fun with the game. Just a question....what do you think is unfixable? Especially without just a few tweaks? I'm just curious.

[Luke Skywalker]

Re: so frustrated with this game

Offline you really need to mess with the sliders for the CPU.

Online is a wreck, they cater to turbo cheese like crazy. You can just take LeBron James and run him into the paint and make an easy layup. Just because LeBron is 94 overall doesn't mean you should use him carelessly.

Users with poor shot selection are much more rewarded. Fadeaway 3s, all nonsense. I am thankful we have sliders for offline.

[ViolenceFight]

Re: so frustrated with this game

Played 2k since 2 weeks not more bec its boring as hell .. No content

I mean this 2k is broke guys.. Mabye just for me bec i play on a real big tv so i see the "stutters-stuttering" almost after every single basket. It's annoying man

All other nba 2k was always smooth in online quick matches 1vs1 but 2k16 is broke!

Let's talk about the gameplay.. I can make a full court pass to my center at the other end to make a easy score.. The defensive can't get my guy bec they are to slow to get back. The other guy do the same and again and again ... What is that ???? Why we can do that

Park: Almost the same like last + no rec .. Thanks!

MyLeague: Almost the same like last year

For me 2k16 is just 2k15.5 . I play nba since 2k9 so i know what i talk. We get less and less content from year to year or new things which are broke

The best nba 2k was nba 2k9.. LOBBYS!!! Man i loved that

You know, you keep talking about stuttering. I'm thinking it's either your connection, or something localized to your particular copy of the game. I know English is not your first language, but your posts are never coherent enough to actually try and diagnose the problems you have

[Inzombniac]

Re: so frustrated with this game

This is an inherent issue when you have a vocal fanbase like 2K does. In fact, I might be wrong but I dare say a lot of these problems are because of the short sighted nature is to listen to a large community after release (not OS since outside of a few issues, a lot agreed that 2K16 played perfectly).

People whined and whined about their shots not going in and having a hard time getting past their defenders and scoring. They whined about how it was too hard and not realistic but what people don't take into account is that the learning curve of the game is the key. The game just came out...any game is hard when you first start playing and if it's not, the developers didn't do a good job making it challenging to have to learn to adapt. So a large amount of people whined about this and patch after patch, adjustment after adjustment, 2K caved and listened.

Fast forward months later and now a lot of people are saying the game is too easy or talking about these flaws with it. Again, I may be wrong but a lot of these animations weren't there in the beginning (such as the auto charge in the paint when someone ran in where you don't even get shooting fouls for them or the person that gets called for it isn't even trying to take a charge). There were legitimate issues that should have been taken out (such as the charge cheese in Park) but for the large part, gameplay should have remained the same. Now that everyone has mastered the game and learned releases and what crossovers/moves work on their guy along with the defense being dumbed down from what it was when the game came out...it's obviously ultra easy for those who know it. Everyone from offline players to Park players, you name it, they all know what works and what doesn't and because things changed for those who struggled at first, it's ultra easier and broken in some forms with stuff that wasn't there at first.

Long story short, 2K should have a window of a month or two after release where they just let people complain outside of legitimate issues that are game breaking. Then they can take actual matters into consideration that are detrimental to the game rather than detrimental to the player themselves.

[2k gamer all day]

Re: so frustrated with this game

You know, you keep talking about stuttering. I'm thinking it's either your connection, or something localized to your particular copy of the game. I know English is not your first language, but your posts are never coherent enough to actually try and diagnose the problems you have

Yea true but bro ... I changed nothing with my connection

I play nba2k since 9 years and i could play always smooth. I checked also nba 2k15 again in 1vs1 online and i get never these stutters .. So 2k16 is broke right?? I play on xbox one with cd version

The thing is .. I really thought i'm alone with that problem but i asked other players and they said they have the same problems. I'm sure as they build up this game they made a big misstake!

Mabye it's just on the xbox one if you have the cd version . I really don't know

[Padgoi]

Re: so frustrated with this game

This is an inherent issue when you have a vocal fanbase like 2K does. In fact, I might be wrong but I dare say a lot of these problems are because of the short sighted nature is to listen to a large community after release (not OS since outside of a few issues, a lot agreed that 2K16 played perfectly).

People whined and whined about their shots not going in and having a hard time getting past their defenders and scoring. They whined about how it was too hard and not realistic but what people don't take into account is that the learning curve of the game is the key. The game just came out...any game is hard when you first start playing and if it's not, the developers didn't do a good job making it challenging to have to learn to adapt. So a large amount of people whined about this and patch after patch, adjustment after adjustment, 2K caved and listened.

Fast forward months later and now a lot of people are saying the game is too easy or talking about these flaws with it. Again, I may be wrong but a lot of these animations weren't there in the beginning (such as the auto charge in the paint when someone ran in where you don't even get shooting fouls for them or the person that gets called for it isn't even trying to take a charge). There were legitimate issues that should have been taken out (such as the charge cheese in Park) but for the large part, gameplay should have remained the same. Now that everyone has mastered the game and learned releases and what crossovers/moves work on their guy along with the defense being dumbed down from what it was when the game came out...it's obviously ultra easy for those who know it. Everyone from offline players to Park players, you name it, they all know what works and what doesn't and because things changed for those who struggled at first, it's ultra easier and broken in some forms with stuff that wasn't there at first.

Long story short, 2K should have a window of a month or two after release where they just let people complain outside of legitimate issues that are game breaking. Then they can take actual matters into consideration that are detrimental to the game rather than detrimental to the player themselves.

This is 100% correct. I'm one of the people who LOVED the AI when the game first came out because it WAS challenging. But no, 2K decided to listen to the idiot children on Twitter who bitched and moaned about the game being too hard and now it's a breeze. I play on Superstar difficulty and I'm in the ECF with the 23rd ranked Knicks. It's disgusting. I just want an AI CPU challenge.

[SpeedyClaxton]

Re: so frustrated with this game

I can confirm game was at least 50% better at release date, like always 2K cater to unskilled guys and whiners but strive into making simulation which is totally opposite, you thrive to make game realistic but at same time listen to people who want arcade.

Game should be 18+ only, i don't care what kids think or need because kids need to play Wii or something like that, this title always was synonym for chosen audience and sim fans. If someone whines about missing treys or says how it's hard to get past someone (for dunk obviously) shouldn't play this game.

It's always clear you can't please everyone and if 2K strives to create simulation then they shouldn't cater to these ridiculous requests.

Same happened with this so called all time ratings scale, it was introduced like big thing and now after 3/4 of season it was thrown away, i am not frustrated with the game itself because game on release date was playable and while not great it was much better than now, i am frustrated that 2K listens to community when they need dumber game to enjoy themselves but hesitates to listen legit complaints and great suggestions.