NBA 2K17 Gameplay Blog with Gameplay Director, Mike Wang

**Beluba** · 09-01-2016, 04:56 PM

Re: NBA 2K17 Gameplay Blog with Gameplay Director, Mike Wang

Originally posted by rhein77

Great great read Mike. Congrats on the Dev teams success.

I have a question about hop step layups and spin layups in relation to respecting a defenders position in the paint. I wonder what the risk reward will be in relation to 2k16... I often avoided layups in the paint in 16 to avoid the more than likely turnover or strip.

Will we have the full arsenal of moves at our disposal without worrying about turnovers? Thanks

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What we attempted to do with advanced layups was to reward users for doing them in the right situations and in the right directions. If the defender is shading right, a euro or hop step left is a good decision. Spin layups are all about distance. Too close and you'll get jammed up, too far it just slows you down.

We added hop step layup collisions where the shooter will lose the ball and be more susceptible to strips if he collides with the defense during the hop.

I think with the layup timing (which seems easier to do on some of the longer layup types like euros and hopsteps) you have a pretty solid arsenal of shots to attack with.

**Beluba** · 09-01-2016, 05:06 PM

Re: NBA 2K17 Gameplay Blog with Gameplay Director, Mike Wang

Originally posted by Hustle Westbrook

Couple questions Mike,

1. Will there be a penalty for not aiming the Shot Stick correctly?

2. What was the thought process behind makig greens automatic makes again?

1. Yes, the penalty gets stronger the higher the difficulty
2. I flip flop on this one all the time. But in the end, I was getting WAY too many complaints about missing greens. And to some extent, I agree with the feedback. If we're reinforcing that you're "doing everything right" by showing you positive feedback, it does kind of suck to have you fail just because you didn't hit the dice roll. So I think it's better to make green releases more rare, but be more consistent with the outcome when you do get them. TBH, I wish I never introduced green releases at all.

**jeebs9** · 09-01-2016, 05:09 PM

Re: NBA 2K17 Gameplay Blog with Gameplay Director, Mike Wang

Mike has me crying over here!!

During a Give & Go, you can call for an alley-oop by pressing the Shot Button while holding the Pass Button

I've wanted this for soooooooo long.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMG6P9b6tug

Thank You!!!

**dwnz** · 09-01-2016, 05:12 PM

Re: NBA 2K17 Gameplay Blog with Gameplay Director, Mike Wang

Originally posted by Beluba

This was a bug in the contest system and should no longer happen in 2K17. Pump fake draw fouls on the perimeter should only happen if you actually press the block button to get into the air.

Is the shot attempt still automated? It felt weird having a shot automatically thrown up for me, when I otherwise always have control of when I'm shooting, particularly when there are a number of actions a player might want to take if they get their defender in the air rather than simply putting up a shot and drawing the foul.

**jeebs9** · 09-01-2016, 05:12 PM

Re: NBA 2K17 Gameplay Blog with Gameplay Director, Mike Wang

Originally posted by Beluba

1. Yes, the penalty gets stronger the higher the difficulty
2.I flip flop on this one all the time. But in the end, I was getting WAY too many complaints about missing greens. And to some extent, I agree with the feedback. If we're reinforcing that you're "doing everything right" by showing you positive feedback, it does kind of suck to have you fail just because you didn't hit the dice roll. So I think it's better to make green releases more rare, but be more consistent with the outcome when you do get them. TBH, I wish I never introduced green releases at all.

I completely agree.... Watching people complain about this subject feels like headbands thread again. Can we still turn off the meter?

**Beluba** · 09-01-2016, 05:12 PM

Re: NBA 2K17 Gameplay Blog with Gameplay Director, Mike Wang

Originally posted by antdoggydogg

Hey Mike, thanks for the in-depth post. Loved hearing about all the new details. I have a question.

Are POE's still in the game? If not, is there a new option thats been added to help us choose how hard each team crashes the board or run in transition, defensive pressure, all that stuff?

I felt like POE's added a lot of variety to the teams and really helped bring out accurate team stats in MyLeague.

The concept is still there, but we call them Offensive and Defensive Game Plans now. DPAD RIGHT.

**njblazer09** · 09-01-2016, 05:13 PM

Re: NBA 2K17 Gameplay Blog with Gameplay Director, Mike Wang

Will the addition of the turbo cam be added to online modes?

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**LorenzoDC** · 09-01-2016, 05:13 PM

Re: NBA 2K17 Gameplay Blog with Gameplay Director, Mike Wang

Originally posted by Beluba

1. Yes, the penalty gets stronger the higher the difficulty
2. I flip flop on this one all the time. But in the end, I was getting WAY too many complaints about missing greens. And to some extent, I agree with the feedback. If we're reinforcing that you're "doing everything right" by showing you positive feedback, it does kind of suck to have you fail just because you didn't hit the dice roll. So I think it's better to make green releases more rare, but be more consistent with the outcome when you do get them. TBH, I wish I never introduced green releases at all.

Yeah, I figured.

TBH I don't understand all the drama about it one way or another.

**Beluba** · 09-01-2016, 05:14 PM

Re: NBA 2K17 Gameplay Blog with Gameplay Director, Mike Wang

Originally posted by alabamarob

Thanks for the info Beluba. 2 questions.

1. Weak blockers vs. Great blockers. Will the weak blockers be called for more fouls on block attempts or have limited block animations?

2. Turbo closeouts. You said that fouls will be called when undercutting the shooter. What about foul calls on above the waste contact on shooters when defenders make a wild/bad contest?

I don't think we explicitly call more fouls on weak blockers. Although I suppose since they're mis-targeting the ball more you'll see more hand to wrist/arm contact which should yield more shooting fouls.

**ch46647** · 09-01-2016, 05:15 PM

Re: NBA 2K17 Gameplay Blog with Gameplay Director, Mike Wang

I wrote a long post on page 3 of the previous blog thread. But since its closed I cannot copy it to paste it here..

1. You mentioned your team spent a lot of time on ball handler vs defender interactions. (Great news!!) Can you elaborate on this? Were you able to remove all the suction/warping on the defensive end, and incorporate more first step explosion for ball handlers?

2. The blog states your team removed a lot of the artificial boost for the CPU on Hall of Fame. This is huge news! Has this improved the "momentum" system which seemed to really favor the trailing team? I know you guys say there is no comeback code, and I certainly take you for your word, but I did notice a lot of funky things happen when I take an 8-10 point lead. Hoping all this is removed. (I noticed this on Superstar level as well)

Incredible blog!! Thank you, Mike!

**Beluba** · 09-01-2016, 05:16 PM

Re: NBA 2K17 Gameplay Blog with Gameplay Director, Mike Wang

Originally posted by scottyp180

How about Eurosteps? Are those still controllable with the right stick? Last year they were done by Sothwest/South East on the right stick.

Euros are done by double tapping the Shot Button now. The Left stick selects whether you Euro Left or Right.

**Beluba** · 09-01-2016, 05:17 PM

Re: NBA 2K17 Gameplay Blog with Gameplay Director, Mike Wang

Originally posted by Hustle Westbrook

One more thingy, are green release layups automatic or is the timing aspect just a boost?

If you can green a layup, it should go in (unless it gets blocked.) It's really tough to do though, especially contact/circus layups.

**Beluba** · 09-01-2016, 05:19 PM

Re: NBA 2K17 Gameplay Blog with Gameplay Director, Mike Wang

Originally posted by yellow86

Also, has taking the ball out after a basket for a fast break finally been improved? It always takes a second or two too long!!

Quick inbounds have been improved quite a bit. I don't know if they're significantly faster than before though. I guess it never bothered me.

**Beluba** · 09-01-2016, 05:22 PM

Re: NBA 2K17 Gameplay Blog with Gameplay Director, Mike Wang

Originally posted by ataman5

So what i want to ask is about long tip rebounds just like Divac did here but ended up! you know...

So long rebound tips in ?

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Yeah those long back taps are in. They're one of my favorite additions to the game this year.

**Americas Team** · 09-01-2016, 05:23 PM

Re: NBA 2K17 Gameplay Blog with Gameplay Director, Mike Wang

Mike, do big men throw dem bows after they get a rebound if guys are around him trying to take the ball?

NBA 2K17 Gameplay Blog with Gameplay Director, Mike Wang

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