NBA 2K17 Pro-Am Discussion Thread

[Tstone77]

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My opinion is based on my own personal evidence. So it's the same thing.

Sharpshooters are slow, they have 75 speed with ball, they also have 80 (i think) speed and acceleration and don't have very high ball control. You can stay with them and you shouldn't be worried about them burning past you.

Also, there is no point in comparing what happens in 2K with real life basketball. It's completely different, I don't see PG's speed boosting or constantly dribbling non-stop.

Remember too, if lag plays it's part then a sharpshooter is non-existent because they can struggle to time their shot. I understand that people are struggling to defend it but that's because they all have sharpshooters or playmakers with mid 70's lateral quickness.. Just takes time to adjust to everything and finding how to incorporate the archetypes with how the game is going.. I can see in a few months that people will be stopping the sharpshooters being able to shoot from ridiculous range. (If not, can't beat them at it then join them)

You're right Sharpshooters can't burn past you. They just have a buddy set a pick and then they let it fly. You are one man I have video evidence of multiple people that contradicts your evidence. I still have not seen any proof that these builds can be stopped consistently.(video)

I am willing to wait out on a patch, but the later that the patch comes the more people that are going to get pissed. Because their god type was changed to better fit the archetype.

This is the Curry build I called it first

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[TotesMaGotes]

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You stepped into the competitive gauntlet. You came in ill-equipped. If I'm playing call of duty and I get put into a lobby with a 5.00 K\D. I can't complain because I stepped into the competitive gauntlet. You play,learn, and get better. Even in real life you might have to play against someone who is better than you naturally. You all END up at the the same spot.

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This isn't the same thing. If we're using the analogy to COD it would be more like if that 5.00 k/d player paid $20 to use a rifle while you didn't pay and all you have is your pistol until you reach level 30. That is what buying VC is like. Your analogy is akin to my 5-50 team goes up against a 50-5 team but everyone has similarly rated players, only personal skill of the game is what sets us apart. My ability on the controls should be what makes me competitive, not my ability to swipe the credit card.

[NowAndLaterCARZ]

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You're right Sharpshooters can't burn past you. They just have a buddy set a pick and then they let it fly. You are one man I have video evidence of multiple people that contradicts your evidence. I still have not seen any proof that these builds can be stopped consistently.(video)

I am willing to wait out on a patch, but the later that the patch comes the more people that are going to get pissed. Because their god type was changed to better fit the archetype.

This is the Curry build I called it first

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its called team defense, defending screens should be easy if your teammates are smart enough to switch or hedge. and please stop with this youtube crap. if 2k makes a video saying sharpshooters are "god type" then you can bring it up, but really you are bringing youtubers into the equation. all the youtubers i know are the cheesiest 2k players on the planet, and people like you subscribe to them and act as if they created the game so they know best. i do agree that its the curry build minus ankle breaker badge, i called it a while back too. but i have stopped many sharpshooters in pro-am to this point, they are easy to guard if you play defense correctly

[abuC]

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u clearly haven't played vs a playmaker with hof ankle breaker. playmaker/point fwd is clearly the most OP this year hands down. guarding a sharpshooter is easy, just smother them on defense. playmaker is almost impossible to guard with 94 speed, 94 speed with ball, anklebreaker hof, plus they can shoot mids consistently and open 3s. the ankle breaker badge is the most op thing in the game, 1 behind the back puts you on the floor......

Guarding sharpshooters isn't easy when a team has two big men with HOF brick wall badges and every other screen they're knocking someone down. We played a team where they had two sharp shooters and a shot creator PG who obviously had ankle breaker HOF, he was dropping people every time down the court and if he didn't one of the two big men with brick wall would level you.


The badges in this game are flat out ruining the game. How they think this can be an E-sport is ridiculous especially when the only player really capable of stopping this stuff is the lockdown defender and that archetype has the hardest badges to get.

[abuC]

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And because of the badges and release, we played another team where a damn glass cleaner could make corner threes. Imagine if DeAndre Jordan suddenly came into the season and started hitting threes. We weren't guarding him in the corner because nobody expected him to make them, but mastering your release and getting HOF dimer passes > ratings.

He was also a 98 which meant he did the upgrade glitch.

[Tstone77]

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its called team defense, defending screens should be easy if your teammates are smart enough to switch or hedge. and please stop with this youtube crap. if 2k makes a video saying sharpshooters are "god type" then you can bring it up, but really you are bringing youtubers into the equation. all the youtubers i know are the cheesiest 2k players on the planet, and people like you subscribe to them and act as if they created the game so they know best. i do agree that its the curry build minus ankle breaker badge, i called it a while back too. but i have stopped many sharpshooters in pro-am to this point, they are easy to guard if you play defense correctly

"Cheese" runs the game. If YouTubers are trying their best to exploit the game I think they'd be the ones to trust on this when they say sharpshooter is the build to go with. When has any company came out and just admitted that they messed up and overpowered a build? Let's just agree to disagree.

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[abuC]

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its called team defense, defending screens should be easy if your teammates are smart enough to switch or hedge. and please stop with this youtube crap. if 2k makes a video saying sharpshooters are "god type" then you can bring it up, but really you are bringing youtubers into the equation. all the youtubers i know are the cheesiest 2k players on the planet, and people like you subscribe to them and act as if they created the game so they know best. i do agree that its the curry build minus ankle breaker badge, i called it a while back too. but i have stopped many sharpshooters in pro-am to this point, they are easy to guard if you play defense correctly

What level is your team on? We're in Elite and good team defense and switching doesn't matter when there's a brick wall HOF guy setting the screen and the Sharpshooter does a hesitation 3 into his shot 5 feet behind the line and the screen. The hesitation 3 doesn't register as an off the dribble shot and it's an auto green because the HOF brick wall knocked down one of the guys trying to hedge it and the Power Forward / Center isn't quick enough to get out on the shot.

Just wait until you play a team with 7'3" sharpshooter and he's doing hesi 3s behind the brick wall.

[Tstone77]

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This isn't the same thing. If we're using the analogy to COD it would be more like if that 5.00 k/d player paid $20 to use a rifle while you didn't pay and all you have is your pistol until you reach level 30. That is what buying VC is like. Your analogy is akin to my 5-50 team goes up against a 50-5 team but everyone has similarly rated players, only personal skill of the game is what sets us apart. My ability on the controls should be what makes me competitive, not my ability to swipe the credit card.

Once again, the COD community has discussed the game becoming pay-to-win. You can search this on youtube or google, it all depends on whether you want to read or see a video. There are multiple weapons that are EXCLUSIVE to supply drops. In 2k you don't even have to compete with these bought players until you're on a similar level, You are choosing to compete with them! Like I said in an earlier post related to this, it sounds like a kid crying because the rich kids didn't have to work all summer to get their Jordans.

It's not pay-to-play

It's not pay-to-win

It's just pay-to-compete quicker.

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[jyoung]

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The badges continue to kill the authenticity of the gameplay. Visual Concepts should have only let players come into Pro Am with their 5 gold archetype badges this year. Instead they've made the badges even more OP than they were last year.

The other big gameplay issue right now is how the "shoot off the dribble" rating only applies to moving shot animations like leaners, pullups, spin shots, etc.

Sharpshooters were supposed to be catch and shoot specialists who could only score immediately after catching a pass. But if they're dribbling with the ball and don't go into a moving shot animation (leaner, pullup, spin shot, etc.), then the game still judges that as a "standing shot" for some reason.

The shot evaluation system needs to be retuned to where every shot that's taken off the dribble is actually being graded by the "shoot of the dribble" rating.

Right now sharpshooters can score off the catch and off the dribble if they know how to avoid the moving shot animations. They should only be able to score off the catch IMO. People should have to set off-ball screens to get sharpshooters good looks, not on-ball screens. On-ball screens should only be effective for scoring with shot creators, and to a lesser extent, slashers and playmakers.

[NowAndLaterCARZ]

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Guarding sharpshooters isn't easy when a team has two big men with HOF brick wall badges and every other screen they're knocking someone down. We played a team where they had two sharp shooters and a shot creator PG who obviously had ankle breaker HOF, he was dropping people every time down the court and if he didn't one of the two big men with brick wall would level you.


The badges in this game are flat out ruining the game. How they think this can be an E-sport is ridiculous especially when the only player really capable of stopping this stuff is the lockdown defender and that archetype has the hardest badges to get.

see this is a totally different arguement, brick wall on hof is OP especially since they don't call illegal screens this year. i can see your frustration playing vs two guys with brick wall. i haven't played against a team with two brick wall hof's yet so i can't comment on that. the guy i responded to said nothing about brick wall on hof, so my comment was based on defending screens without brickwall

[Clappington]

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u clearly haven't played vs a playmaker with hof ankle breaker. playmaker/point fwd is clearly the most OP this year hands down. guarding a sharpshooter is easy, just smother them on defense. playmaker is almost impossible to guard with 94 speed, 94 speed with ball, anklebreaker hof, plus they can shoot mids consistently and open 3s. the ankle breaker badge is the most op thing in the game, 1 behind the back puts you on the floor......

I am a playmaker and yes I know ankle breaker is OP needs to be turned down along with some speed and that is hard to impossible to guard. I've played about 7 top 10 teams on xbox and a lot of them just run 4 shooters and 1 center. It's one guy for a crew who avg's 40 points literally all he does is come down court and pop a three no matter who was in his face he disregarded them. I mean I expected people to go over board with some of stuff so it's not shocking just hope it gets fixed.

EDIT: Also illegal screens play a major part in these sharpshooters getting off That and doing curry hop-step BOY that has to go!

[NowAndLaterCARZ]

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What level is your team on? We're in Elite and good team defense and switching doesn't matter when there's a brick wall HOF guy setting the screen and the Sharpshooter does a hesitation 3 into his shot 5 feet behind the line and the screen. The hesitation 3 doesn't register as an off the dribble shot and it's an auto green because the HOF brick wall knocked down one of the guys trying to hedge it and the Power Forward / Center isn't quick enough to get out on the shot.

Just wait until you play a team with 7'3" sharpshooter and he's doing hesi 3s behind the brick wall.

elite 1, 42-3, #1 team on west coast ps4 "clamp chowda"

[Rockie_Fresh88]

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The badges continue to kill the authenticity of the gameplay. Visual Concepts should have only let players come into Pro Am with their 5 gold archetype badges this year. Instead they've made the badges even more OP than they were last year.

The other big gameplay issue right now is how the "shoot off the dribble" rating only applies to moving shot animations like leaners, pullups, spin shots, etc.

Sharpshooters were supposed to be catch and shoot specialists who could only score immediately after catching a pass. But if they're dribbling with the ball and don't go into a moving shot animation (leaner, pullup, spin shot, etc.), then the game still judges that as a "standing shot" for some reason.

The shot evaluation system needs to be retuned to where every shot that's taken off the dribble is actually being graded by the "shoot of the dribble" rating.

Right now sharpshooters can score off the catch and off the dribble, if they know which animations to avoid. They should only be able to score off the catch IMO.

Sharpshooters are so Op it's ridiculous. All those HOF shooting badges .

[abuC]

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see this is a totally different arguement, brick wall on hof is OP especially since they don't call illegal screens this year. i can see your frustration playing vs two guys with brick wall. i haven't played against a team with two brick wall hof's yet so i can't comment on that. the guy i responded to said nothing about brick wall on hof, so my comment was based on defending screens without brickwall

Those kind of teams always have 3 sharpshooters or a shot creator + 2 sharp shooters and the brick wall HOF guys. The game had more balance the first day when nobody had badges, our sharpshooters had to actually get open and get good looks to make them.


I think I'll make a thread asking everyone what their pro-am team is shooting from three, I'd guess most everyone is 50-60%.

[Tstone77]

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Those kind of teams always have 3 sharpshooters or a shot creator + 2 sharp shooters and the brick wall HOF guys. The game had more balance the first day when nobody had badges, our sharpshooters had to actually get open and get good looks to make them.


I think I'll make a thread asking everyone what their pro-am team is shooting from three, I'd guess most everyone is 50-60%.

The first few days were excellent. The badges should be completely tuned down. Maybe have them give a boost sporadically? I'm not really sure but badges shouldn't determine so much.

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