NBA 2K17 Trade Discussion Thread

[jeremym480]

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I had a look back at the bulls roster and realized that wade is out long term with an ankle fracture so playing time for IT wouldn't be an issue. McDermott and Snell have been playing SF with butler at the 2. So they replace butler with IT at the 2 and get Olynyk, Nets first and my First in 2018. Does that make any difference or should I just reverse the trades and look elsewhere?

Thanks for the response by the way!


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Knowing that Wade is hurt makes it a little better. I'm still not sure that IT4/Olynyk for Bradley is a net positive for them this year... assuming they're trying to win this year. However, if the Bulls are looking ahead, then adding the picks and getting a contract friendly IT4 (who makes around 10M less than Butler) certainly gives them a lot of flexibility moving forward.

A few of the trades make more sense if you consider I started from the offseason. So some teams didnt have what they usually would, But I'll keep that in mind for next year in mygm. Might post a few "for fun trades" later tonight to practice and get some opinions.

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Maybe if the Nets and Pel's got Lebron and Durant, then I guess those trades wouldn't be that bad.

[J.R.]

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Sorry I asked, I was just curious and wanted to do better next season not get mocked.

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[jeremym480]

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Should things go as planned in MyLeague, I'm planning to move DeMarcus Cousins. Here are two trade ideas which are both valid according to 2K, but I wanted to get an idea as to whether they seem like good moves or not.

TRADE 1

SAC gets: Bradley Beal, Otto Porter, Andrew Nicholson, 2017 1st Round (Unprotected) and 2018 1st Round (Top 10 protected)

WAS gets: DeMarcus Cousins, Kosta Koufos, Ben McLemore

TRADE 2

SAC gets: Bradley Beal, Otto Porter, Andrew Nicholson, Tyler Johnson, WAS 2017 1st Round (Unprotected) and WAS 2018 1st Round (Top 10 protected)

WAS gets: DeMarcus Cousins, Kosta Koufos, Ben McLemore, Justice Winslow, Wayne Ellington

MIA gets: Marcin Gortat, Omri Casspi, SAC 2020 1st Round (Swap Best)


This trades are made under the premise that Chris Bosh is out indefinitely for Miami and Sacramento isn't winning while both Miami and Washington are fighting for playoff spots (the Wizards in better position naturally).

I feel like Washington the best end of this deal by a large margin, Sacramento isn't getting nearly what Boogie is worth and Miami is getting fleeced hard.

Sorry I asked, I was just curious and wanted to do better next season not get mocked.

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I was being serious about the Lebron and Durant thing. If either of those two (Nets/Pels) teams have those players, then maybe those trades could have made sense. Both guys were free agents last offseason, so I thought it could be possible that they had a quick turnaround by adding a superstar player.
I shouldn't have included the emoji though. I apologize for that.

[michaellowll]

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How much better? If you want MUCH better, Lopez is going to have to go

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not necessarily, but possible

[Knickerbocker91]

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I feel like Washington the best end of this deal by a large margin, Sacramento isn't getting nearly what Boogie is worth and Miami is getting fleeced hard.

I agree that Washington ends up with the best look after this deal, but contracts make this a difficult one. With Cousins gone, I assumed the Kings would lean on WCS at C with the Labissiere and Papagiannis coming off the bench. They get a scorer in Beal and still keep another scoring in Rudy Gay.

Washington loses Gortat and Beal but Cousins is definitely an upgrade. Miami at the time I considered this trade is last in the East, doesn't have Bosh. They're going to have to give up someone and between Whiteside and Winslow I would assume they would keep Whiteside.

I don't want to trade away any rookies or players that the teams just signed the previous offseason (because that almost never happens in real life), but would like suggestions on the matter.

EDIT: Should I flip Winslow to Sacramento?

[J.R.]

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I was being serious about the Lebron and Durant thing. If either of those two (Nets/Pels) teams have those players, then maybe those trades could have made sense. Both guys were free agents last offseason, so I thought it could be possible that they had a quick turnaround by adding a superstar player.
I shouldn't have included the emoji though. I apologize for that.

When you said Durant and Lebron I thought you were being sarcastic. My B. Nah, Boston has Durant and Lebron is memphis.. for some.reason..

Luol Deng is on the nets, along with Bojan.

not necessarily, but possible

Two options I'd consider:
Option A:

Shaun Livingston for Jeremy Lin + Randy Foye (GSW would get someone who could shoot threes and a decent replacement for livingston.)

Option b:

Brook Lopez +Jeremy Lin for Willie Caulie Stein & Ben Mclemore.

(you can move Ben to PG, SAC will be happy with cousins at PF and Lopez at C, and lin will be a better fit for them arguably. He can play backup PG or SG and if he plays the 1, they can deal Lawson.)

You might feel a little robbed with option B, but WCS has too much potential to not get something good like Lopez back. My opinion.



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[jeremym480]

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I agree that Washington ends up with the best look after this deal, but contracts make this a difficult one. With Cousins gone, I assumed the Kings would lean on WCS at C with the Labissiere and Papagiannis coming off the bench. They get a scorer in Beal and still keep another scoring in Rudy Gay.

Washington loses Gortat and Beal but Cousins is definitely an upgrade. Miami at the time I considered this trade is last in the East, doesn't have Bosh. They're going to have to give up someone and between Whiteside and Winslow I would assume they would keep Whiteside.

I don't want to trade away any rookies or players that the teams just signed the previous offseason (because that almost never happens in real life), but would like suggestions on the matter.

EDIT: Should I flip Winslow to Sacramento?

Winslow to Sacramento would definitely sweeten the deal for them. However, I still don't get what would motivate Miami into making this deal. If they're last or close to last in the standing, then why get rid of Winslow or Whiteside. I would both of them use their draft pick as building blocks. They certainly don't need Gortat and Whiteside.

If Miami is tanking how about sending Goran Dragic to the Kings instead? I'm at work so don't know if it's would work in the game, but something like

SAC - Gets Beal, Dragic, multiple unprotected picks from Washington
Would end up with a nice starting lineup with Dragic, Beal, Gay, WCS, but would be somewhat weak at C with Kouftos

WAS - Gets Boogie & Ben McLemore
Boogie would play PF beside Gortat and McLemore would be a Beal's replacement at least for the year

MIA - Gets Markieff Morris
Miami motivation here is to
a) get rid of Dragic's long contract
b) find a cheap replacement for Bosh would would fit nicely with Whiteside and Winslow.
c) Continue to lose games so they can get a good PG in their draft... Although they could get a big fish in Free Agency. It is South Beach, you know?

With all of that said I still think the Kings could find a better deal out there for Boogie, but I think getting two legitimate starters to pair with Gay would help a little bit.

[trekfan]

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TRADE 1

SAC gets: Bradley Beal, Otto Porter, Andrew Nicholson, 2017 1st Round (Unprotected) and 2018 1st Round (Top 10 protected)

WAS gets: DeMarcus Cousins, Kosta Koufos, Ben McLemore

TRADE 2

SAC gets: Bradley Beal, Otto Porter, Andrew Nicholson, Tyler Johnson, WAS 2017 1st Round (Unprotected) and WAS 2018 1st Round (Top 10 protected)

WAS gets: DeMarcus Cousins, Kosta Koufos, Ben McLemore, Justice Winslow, Wayne Ellington

MIA gets: Marcin Gortat, Omri Casspi, SAC 2020 1st Round (Swap Best)

SAC - Gets Beal, Dragic, multiple unprotected picks from Washington
Would end up with a nice starting lineup with Dragic, Beal, Gay, WCS, but would be somewhat weak at C with Kouftos

WAS - Gets Boogie & Ben McLemore
Boogie would play PF beside Gortat and McLemore would be a Beal's replacement at least for the year

MIA - Gets Markieff Morris
Miami motivation here is to
a) get rid of Dragic's long contract
b) find a cheap replacement for Bosh would would fit nicely with Whiteside and Winslow.
c) Continue to lose games so they can get a good PG in their draft... Although they could get a big fish in Free Agency. It is South Beach, you know?

I like the idea of Washington getting Boogie, I simply don't like how much they're giving up for him -- especially since there is no guarantee (unless you edit his contract details) that he doesn't leave in the summer of 2018 and makes all those unprotected picks, plus the long-term contract of Beal, look like a waste for Washington. It's a HUGE trade for them and there has to be some assurance that Boogie agrees to an extension with them -- if not, then no deal.

I don't like the idea of Boogie playing at PF either, his foot speed isn't good enough to close out on the perimeter for those stretch-4 bigs in my opinion, so you'd need to unload Gortat somewhere else.

I see no reason for Miami to be involved in any of these trades except to unload Dragic, but why would the Kings want Dragic? They have Collison, who's not much worse than Dragic is -- Dragic is being paid like he's much better than he is and though Sacramento would have his services for a few years (a plus for them since players leave), I don't see Dragic as a long-term solution. I don't see Sacramento wanting to grab an older PG with a largeish contract when the Bulls own their pick for this season unless it ends up in the top-10, which they definitely want in the stacked 2017 draft (that has many PGs in it that are well-thought of). Trading Boogie for picks+potential young long-term pieces is good and Dragic doesn't help.

Admittedly, Sacramento's front office isn't exactly running on all cylinders all the time, so I could see this, but I feel Miami is best left out.

If you want Boogie in Washington, I feel Trade 1 is the best one for them; unload Gortat to someone else, recoup a low-1st maybe, make both those picks unprotected, but the trade only happens if Boogie agrees to stay beyond 2018. They have to have that extension, otherwise this deal shouldn't happen, even for a desperate (ish) Wizards team.

[jeremym480]

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in my Nets dynasty (Current record 5-13; 14th in the East).
Untouchables players are: Levert, Whitehead, Booker, Foye
available players: Lin, Lopez, Bogdanovic, and others...

I need better point guard than Lin, Vasquez

trade with much realism.
any suggests are welcome

I think now is the time for the Nets to cut ties with Lopez and try to get as much young talent in there, as possible. What I would do if I were you is flip him for a player and maybe a prospect or two or draft picks if it could work out financially.

If you're going for realism one PG that is rumored to be on the move is Ricky Rubio... do you have any interest in him? If so, you could probably work out a three team deal with a team like Chicago. Something like:



BRK Gets - A great passing and defensive PG and two players in the last years of their deal who would probably be easy to resign. A future 1st from Chicago needed, as well.

*You could swap put Valentine in Snell's place, but I would take away the first if that's the case.

CHI Gets - Brook... yes they already have Robin and the two are pure NBA centers. They did play together and have success in college, so maybe the can rekindle that success now. Although, I think Robin would be Brook's primary backup in this situation. With Portis starting at PF.

MIN Gets - They should get a future first from Chicago, possibly the one Chicago owns from Sacramento, but I would be hesitant to send that one since it could turn into two 2nds. Gibson would just be an veteran backup and is a Thibs guy.

I see no reason for Miami to be involved in any of these trades except to unload Dragic, but why would the Kings want Dragic? They have Collison, who's not much worse than Dragic is -- Dragic is being paid like he's much better than he is and though Sacramento would have his services for a few years (a plus for them since players leave), I don't see Dragic as a long-term solution. I don't see Sacramento wanting to grab an older PG with a largeish contract when the Bulls own their pick for this season unless it ends up in the top-10, which they definitely want in the stacked 2017 draft (that has many PGs in it that are well-thought of). Trading Boogie for picks+potential young long-term pieces is good and Dragic doesn't help.

Admittedly, Sacramento's front office isn't exactly running on all cylinders all the time, so I could see this, but I feel Miami is best left out.

If you want Boogie in Washington, I feel Trade 1 is the best one for them; unload Gortat to someone else, recoup a low-1st maybe, make both those picks unprotected, but the trade only happens if Boogie agrees to stay beyond 2018. They have to have that extension, otherwise this deal shouldn't happen, even for a desperate (ish) Wizards team.

Dang, you're right. I haven't realized how bad Dragic has regressed these past few years. I was thinking of the 80-82ish overall from last year. Here's his stats compared to Collison in 2k17 (first numbers are Collison)

[Knickerbocker91]

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Winslow to Sacramento would definitely sweeten the deal for them. However, I still don't get what would motivate Miami into making this deal. If they're last or close to last in the standing, then why get rid of Winslow or Whiteside. I would both of them use their draft pick as building blocks. They certainly don't need Gortat and Whiteside.

If Miami is tanking how about sending Goran Dragic to the Kings instead? I'm at work so don't know if it's would work in the game, but something like

SAC - Gets Beal, Dragic, multiple unprotected picks from Washington
Would end up with a nice starting lineup with Dragic, Beal, Gay, WCS, but would be somewhat weak at C with Kouftos

WAS - Gets Boogie & Ben McLemore
Boogie would play PF beside Gortat and McLemore would be a Beal's replacement at least for the year

MIA - Gets Markieff Morris
Miami motivation here is to
a) get rid of Dragic's long contract
b) find a cheap replacement for Bosh would would fit nicely with Whiteside and Winslow.
c) Continue to lose games so they can get a good PG in their draft... Although they could get a big fish in Free Agency. It is South Beach, you know?

With all of that said I still think the Kings could find a better deal out there for Boogie, but I think getting two legitimate starters to pair with Gay would help a little bit.

Like trekfan said below your post, I don't think the Kings would want Dragic with Collison being a similar player plus just signing Ty Lawson. Maybe doing a 3 team deal is a little much. I considered sending Morris somewhere as well, but at the time I went to look at trade options he was injured so I didn't check to see if he would keep things valid. The Kings would more than likely run Tolliver at the 4 and WCS at the 5 with Labissiere and Koufos as backups in the example you give.

Thanks for the help though, it's good to be able to bounce this ideas around.

I like the idea of Washington getting Boogie, I simply don't like how much they're giving up for him -- especially since there is no guarantee (unless you edit his contract details) that he doesn't leave in the summer of 2018 and makes all those unprotected picks, plus the long-term contract of Beal, look like a waste for Washington. It's a HUGE trade for them and there has to be some assurance that Boogie agrees to an extension with them -- if not, then no deal.

I don't like the idea of Boogie playing at PF either, his foot speed isn't good enough to close out on the perimeter for those stretch-4 bigs in my opinion, so you'd need to unload Gortat somewhere else.

I see no reason for Miami to be involved in any of these trades except to unload Dragic, but why would the Kings want Dragic? They have Collison, who's not much worse than Dragic is -- Dragic is being paid like he's much better than he is and though Sacramento would have his services for a few years (a plus for them since players leave), I don't see Dragic as a long-term solution. I don't see Sacramento wanting to grab an older PG with a largeish contract when the Bulls own their pick for this season unless it ends up in the top-10, which they definitely want in the stacked 2017 draft (that has many PGs in it that are well-thought of). Trading Boogie for picks+potential young long-term pieces is good and Dragic doesn't help.

Admittedly, Sacramento's front office isn't exactly running on all cylinders all the time, so I could see this, but I feel Miami is best left out.

If you want Boogie in Washington, I feel Trade 1 is the best one for them; unload Gortat to someone else, recoup a low-1st maybe, make both those picks unprotected, but the trade only happens if Boogie agrees to stay beyond 2018. They have to have that extension, otherwise this deal shouldn't happen, even for a desperate (ish) Wizards team.

The contract thing is something I didn't consider. I assumed Cousins would be happy with a playoff contender in Washington (the East isn't strong enough to where I wouldn't see him not putting them back in that position, albeit around the 6-8 seeds). I'd have to try and work out an extension at that point.

I don't like Cousins playing PF either, which is why I wanted Washington to give up Gortat. They wouldn't be able to play both at the same time and Cousins is definitely the better player. Though Sacramento wouldn't need Gortat with their youth, so that's why I considered a third team getting involved.

[trekfan]

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I think now is the time for the Nets to cut ties with Lopez and try to get as much young talent in there, as possible. What I would do if I were you is flip him for a player and maybe a prospect or two or draft picks if it could work out financially.

If you're going for realism one PG that is rumored to be on the move is Ricky Rubio... do you have any interest in him? If so, you could probably work out a three team deal with a team like Chicago. Something like:



BRK Gets - A great passing and defensive PG and two players in the last years of their deal who would probably be easy to resign. A future 1st from Chicago needed, as well.

*You could swap put Valentine in Snell's place, but I would take away the first if that's the case.

CHI Gets - Brook... yes they already have Robin and the two are pure NBA centers. They did play together and have success in college, so maybe the can rekindle that success now. Although, I think Robin would be Brook's primary backup in this situation. With Portis starting at PF.

MIN Gets - They should get a future first from Chicago, possibly the one Chicago owns from Sacramento, but I would be hesitant to send that one since it could turn into two 2nds. Gibson would just be an veteran backup and is a Thibs guy.





Dang, you're right. I haven't realized how bad Dragic has regressed these past few years. I was thinking of the 80-82ish overall from last year. Here's his stats compared to Collison in 2k17 (first numbers are Collison)

Nice thinking on that T'Wolves/Nets/Bulls deal, I approve. Rubio plus a 1st would be a GOD-send for the Nets. Uniting Brook with his brother, Robin, is also a nice touch ... a platoon of Lopez brothers (or maybe moving Robin to the 4 -- he's got the motor for it) would be a good get.

As for Dragic, yeah, he seriously got dinged in the ratings this year. His play last year wasn't great and he was just a poor fit in Miami last year. With no Wade and no Bosh, it'll be his year to shine with Whiteside, I expect his ratings to go up, but right now he's not much better than Collison.

[J.R.]

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So I dumped Dwight Howards 3 year, 90 mil contract onto the hawks and picked up a 1 mil contract from them. I figured since they got him irl it's realistic, and it gives me cap space. Fair? I got Patrick Mccaw but he'll be cut soon, or riding the pine .

Also. Alexis ajinca for a 2nd round pick in 2020 from LAC?

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[michaellowll]

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When you said Durant and Lebron I thought you were being sarcastic. My B. Nah, Boston has Durant and Lebron is memphis.. for some.reason..

Luol Deng is on the nets, along with Bojan.


Two options I'd consider:
Option A:

Shaun Livingston for Jeremy Lin + Randy Foye (GSW would get someone who could shoot threes and a decent replacement for livingston.)

Option b:

Brook Lopez +Jeremy Lin for Willie Caulie Stein & Ben Mclemore.

(you can move Ben to PG, SAC will be happy with cousins at PF and Lopez at C, and lin will be a better fit for them arguably. He can play backup PG or SG and if he plays the 1, they can deal Lawson.)

You might feel a little robbed with option B, but WCS has too much potential to not get something good like Lopez back. My opinion.



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I think now is the time for the Nets to cut ties with Lopez and try to get as much young talent in there, as possible. What I would do if I were you is flip him for a player and maybe a prospect or two or draft picks if it could work out financially.

If you're going for realism one PG that is rumored to be on the move is Ricky Rubio... do you have any interest in him? If so, you could probably work out a three team deal with a team like Chicago. Something like:



BRK Gets - A great passing and defensive PG and two players in the last years of their deal who would probably be easy to resign. A future 1st from Chicago needed, as well.

*You could swap put Valentine in Snell's place, but I would take away the first if that's the case.

CHI Gets - Brook... yes they already have Robin and the two are pure NBA centers. They did play together and have success in college, so maybe the can rekindle that success now. Although, I think Robin would be Brook's primary backup in this situation. With Portis starting at PF.

MIN Gets - They should get a future first from Chicago, possibly the one Chicago owns from Sacramento, but I would be hesitant to send that one since it could turn into two 2nds. Gibson would just be an veteran backup and is a Thibs guy.





Dang, you're right. I haven't realized how bad Dragic has regressed these past few years. I was thinking of the 80-82ish overall from last year. Here's his stats compared to Collison in 2k17 (first numbers are Collison)

this trades are super but I don't like those players.

I real like Lopez but much more I like good players from PG or SG or SF.
Maybe I trade Brook Lopez away in exchange for draft pick (top 3 to get Dennis Smith). Smith will be my #1 in rotation on position point guard.

[jeremym480]

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this trades are super but I don't like those players.

I real like Lopez but much more I like good players from PG or SG or SF.
Maybe I trade Brook Lopez away in exchange for draft pick (top 3 to get Dennis Smith). Smith will be my #1 in rotation on position point guard.

If you trade him during the '17 draft the question would become is Brook Lopez at 29 years old with one year left on worth a top 3 pick? I would say he's not.

Next question would be if does Brooklyn have anything to thrown in to sweeten the deal?

Third question would be does Lopez fit with that team, as many teams already have centers and while Lopez may be an upgrade, would he be a big enough net positive over what they have to give up an early draft pick.

Here's a good article about the market for him: http://basketball.realgm.com/article...or-Brook-Lopez

[Coffee Black]

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in my Nets dynasty (Current record 5-13; 14th in the East).
Untouchables players are: Levert, Whitehead, Booker, Foye
available players: Lin, Lopez, Bogdanovic, and others...

I need better point guard than Lin, Vasquez

trade with much realism.
any suggests are welcome

You're the Nets. You shouldn't have any "untouchables". LOL.