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  • Gosens6
    All Star
    • Oct 2007
    • 6101

    #391
    Re: NBA 2K17 Patch 1.05 Available Now, Rosters Updated - Full Details Here

    Originally posted by Jrocc23
    Nobody is exaggerating for drama. This has been well known for awhile now.

    Yes, they double me from opening tipoff until the game is over. Been doing it since my first year.


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    See that's why some folks are confused. This doesn't happen outside of my career mode.

    People aren't specifying which mode they play so everyone is defending or criticizing this and everyone is ripping eachothers heads off because one party is saying it's horrible, and another is saying they don't see it.

    Guys really have to specify which mode they play. This double team issue is definitely not happening for me offline against the ai in my league. It seems to be a my career only thing.

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    • nuckles2k2
      MVP
      • Sep 2006
      • 1922

      #392
      Re: NBA 2K17 Patch 1.05 Available Now, Rosters Updated - Full Details Here

      Originally posted by Gosens6
      See that's why some folks are confused. This doesn't happen outside of my career mode.

      People aren't specifying which mode they play so everyone is defending or criticizing this and everyone is ripping eachothers heads off because one party is saying it's horrible, and another is saying they don't see it.

      Guys really have to specify which mode they play. This double team issue is definitely not happening for me offline against the ai in my league. It seems to be a my career only thing.

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      I agree 200% with the notion that people need to say what mode they're playing more often.

      The frequency of the double team is a problem in MyCareer for sure. My playmaking SF was averaging 9 assists vs 1 turnover in 19 mins per game, before I took a break from it.

      As soon as I come in the game & score a few buckets, the D sends the double & I just idle at the top of the key & make the easy passes.

      The other complaint is just about how some double teams in 2K just don't make basketball sense. Like BaeBae32 said, you don't send a double team to the perimeter because someone is scoring bunches (send being the key word because it means someone is vacating a defensive assignment & creating a 4-on-3 disadvantage). I could understand trapping a 3pt shooter in the corner, because now the floor is shrunk & defenders have an opportunity to get back to their man if an unadvised lob pass comes out of the dbl. Also, pressuring the ball up the court, taking time off the clock, and as soon as the ball crosses the time line - send the double. That makes some logical basketball sense.

      But sending a double to someone dribbling 24' away from the basket? Just dribbling outside of the arc, making no attempt to do anything other than dribble...and that's when it's time to vacate assignments and create a 4-3 mismatch...that's not basketball.

      We need to get back to "don't play video games, play basketball"

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      • ataman5
        MVP
        • Jun 2007
        • 2620

        #393
        Re: NBA 2K17 Patch 1.05 Available Now, Rosters Updated - Full Details Here

        Just a general feedback post patch and i have so many reasons that i can list but i will just say it here it goes..

        Isnt this like 2k16 identical now ? And maybe even worse with so many OP offball/unnatural movements/contacts and worse ai adjustments and plays and freelances a lot worse than 2k16 and no natural anything and offbalancing within offense and between defense and offense. I mean..


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        • NoLeafClover
          Rookie
          • Feb 2016
          • 408

          #394
          Re: NBA 2K17 Patch 1.05 Available Now, Rosters Updated - Full Details Here

          Where are these supposed illegal screens meant to be? Just played a Pro Am game in which the other team did nothing but spam screens with 3 people around 2 sharpshooters the entire game and didn't see one illegal screen foul called?

          It's nothing like it was last year where you had to actually time your screens. Add in Brick Wall badge and it kills any fun or skill in the game even after the patch.

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          • Jrocc23
            MVP
            • May 2010
            • 3207

            #395
            NBA 2K17 Patch 1.05 Available Now, Rosters Updated - Full Details Here

            Originally posted by Gosens6
            See that's why some folks are confused. This doesn't happen outside of my career mode.

            People aren't specifying which mode they play so everyone is defending or criticizing this and everyone is ripping eachothers heads off because one party is saying it's horrible, and another is saying they don't see it.

            Guys really have to specify which mode they play. This double team issue is definitely not happening for me offline against the ai in my league. It seems to be a my career only thing.

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            Me and the person I was talking specifically mentioned MyCareer.

            If he was talking about anything else or is confused that's on them or whoever else didn't fully read my post or the post above me.


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            • Jrocc23
              MVP
              • May 2010
              • 3207

              #396
              NBA 2K17 Patch 1.05 Available Now, Rosters Updated - Full Details Here

              Wrong post
              HATE LOSING MORE THAN I LOVE WINNING!

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              • Baebae32
                Pro
                • Nov 2015
                • 880

                #397
                Re: NBA 2K17 Patch 1.05 Available Now, Rosters Updated - Full Details Here

                Paint pass spamming is an on ball defense thing. People can zip the ball around wherever they want because the on ball defender has little to no effect on the type of pass a person can throw unlike in real life. Paint spamming would improve If 2k allowed for more deflections by the on ball defender or even just prevented some passes from being made when there is good pressure on the ball (to save the kids and casuals from themselves)

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                • tc020791
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 2012

                  #398
                  Re: NBA 2K17 Patch 1.05 Available Now, Rosters Updated - Full Details Here

                  Originally posted by meccs
                  My main issues are the things that are really broken:

                  - The fast breaks (stopping at the 3pt line with clear path to the basket for players that are not Steph)
                  - Getting bumped out of bounds on the baseline (applies mainly to AI ball handler vs AI defender)
                  - Centers standing in the paint without guarding their man (they don't try to get between the basket and their man and instead just stand in front of him).
                  - Smart Play Button not working

                  Imho (for MyCareer) double teams are pretty common if you go on a run but passing out of them is way easier than in 2K16 and if your teammates score 1 or 2 times they will stop doing it. AT least in my experience so far.


                  Guys like you are the reason this game gets patched unnecessarily. How are guys stepping out of bounds a problem? It happens all the time in the NBA. And we all know this game needs as many non-steal turnovers as possible.


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                  • nrc125
                    Rookie
                    • Jul 2013
                    • 55

                    #399
                    Re: NBA 2K17 Patch 1.05 Available Now, Rosters Updated - Full Details Here

                    Well, I hadn't played this game since WWE 2K17 came out. I played yesterday, after that long over due patch, and I must say that shot percentages for both teams are very realistic now, mid to low 40's. But man, I am getting called for illegal screens like crazy!

                    But yeah, overall the game feels more balanced (difficult) for me.

                    On PS4.

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                    • TYruler50
                      Rookie
                      • Nov 2016
                      • 41

                      #400
                      Re: NBA 2K17 Patch 1.05 Available Now, Rosters Updated - Full Details Here

                      wonder what the new menu update is about

                      not seeing a word of it on twitter

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                      • kaluis05
                        Rookie
                        • Oct 2016
                        • 109

                        #401
                        Originally posted by TYruler50
                        wonder what the new menu update is about

                        not seeing a word of it on twitter
                        I think they updated the player ratings. Klay Thompson is not on 90's anymore.

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                        • rozisgeo
                          Just started!
                          • Nov 2016
                          • 1

                          #402
                          Hello, i would like to ask what will happen with update official roster for ps3,will come out and when?

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                          • tc020791
                            MVP
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 2012

                            #403
                            Re: NBA 2K17 Patch 1.05 Available Now, Rosters Updated - Full Details Here

                            Anyone complaining about D look at my post #343. Compare that with this game. You will clearly see that the teams you're using matters, just as much as the team you're playing against. Which I love by the way. In the prior game I was able to play stingy D with OKC, and hold Sacramento to 88 points on 42% shooting. This game I couldn't get a stop for my life. But it felt so real because Houston is terrible on D and the Warriors, well are the Warriors on Offense. With that being said....

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                            • sk8board
                              Pro
                              • Nov 2016
                              • 572

                              #404
                              Re: NBA 2K17 Patch 1.05 Available Now, Rosters Updated - Full Details Here

                              Our MyCareer players are barely 80 when you create them with the same attributes outside of MyCareer and you mean to tell me they are getting doubled from opening tip?

                              2K is getting really stingy with the VC.

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                              • BegBy
                                Banned
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 1212

                                #405
                                Re: NBA 2K17 Patch 1.05 Available Now, Rosters Updated - Full Details Here

                                There's been definite improvements with the patch. However there are still nagging issues and at this point I'm resigned to the fact that they will not be fixed. Unrealistic on ball defense (though improved) is still the basis for the 2K series, and in my opinion it's not a good look as it doesn't replicate authentic NBA basketball. It almost seems worse now that we can get by defenders a bit easier but as a result said defender clips, slides, morphs, recovers etc much more frequently. It looks really wonky and feels cheap.

                                The transition game is still quite terrible in all regards. It's like the programmers went out of their way to ensure that users will not in any way shape or form enjoy playing any aspect of transition basketball. Quite literally in all facets it's horribly done. I can't assume they meant anything but to make sure it's nothing like NBA.

                                Noticing lots of interior passing by the cpu that is not able to be defended, thus they get an inflated field goal percentage because the interior defense is typically way out of position and sometimes, sadly (literally) in the crowd.

                                Defensively I feel like I am in slow motion and the cpu can have it's way with me at will. I'm not looking to force them to pick up their dribble as I think that isn't realistic. I am looking to not have to carry what feels like a 100 lb weight on each ankle whilst trying to stick with the ballhandler. Offensively is much the same. I feel the cpu mirrors my inputs effortlessly and while there are more times that I can get by them now compared to pre - patch, it's still pretty silly and unrealistic. As I mentioned before even when I beat them I have to deal with them pushing me around like I'm a ragdoll and then having them magically appear in front of me.

                                I could go on, but I digress. I waited until today to be vocal about the patch as I wanted to see if rosters, sliders and other changes influenced my opinion, and of course I wanted to get a decent number of games in with different teams.

                                It's better, there's no denying that, but better isn't really achieving too much. The bar was set pretty low. Hopefully there's still more patches. I remain loyal to my opinion that NBA 2K17 isn't a good basketball simulation. It's a decent video game, but I can play lots of decent video games. I want to play basketball...NBA basketball.

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