NBA 2k18 Impressions Thread

[SageInfinite]

Re: NBA 2k18 Impressions Thread

Definitely one of the worst 2k's I've ever played.....

[Johnnythelegend]

Re: NBA 2k18 Impressions Thread

Definitely one of the worst 2k's I've ever played.....

Care to elaborate? Cause it's one of the best i've ever played

[SageInfinite]

Re: NBA 2k18 Impressions Thread

Care to elaborate? Cause it's one of the best i've ever played

I'm just speaking from a single player experience against the AI.

The clipping is horrendous(my biggest issue). The ball seems to go through your players whole body, but when you're on offense a pinky will knock the ball loose.

Rebounding is also cheap against the AI with the ball suctioning to their hands while my players have good position and in some cases are larger players.

Also the putbacks/tip ins are ridiculous for the ai. Regardless of traffic the shots go in.

Forget about tapping the steal button or jumping to block a shot at times. Instant foul call.

The AI is also free to dribble carelessly in the paint while you can't take a step without the ball getting knocked loose.

Loose balls also suction to the AI ridiculously.

While wide open shots do definitely miss for the AI, the frequency at which they go in for certain players are ridiculous.

Also the AI is rewarded with bad shots often from what I've seen.

Defense is dumb as rocks at times.

Missed layups for player controlled players is ridiculous while the AI is almost a guaranteed make regardless of traffic in a lot of situations.

I could go on, but it just seems like the game was tuned for H2H and not against the AI because they are hardly penalized for the BS they do, but you are constantly penalized.

I could see if I was losing games, but I've won 80% of the games I've played, they just aren't fun. It's like I'm playing Madden the way I have to go into replay mode to see WTF happened. I haven't been this disappointed in a 2k game in a long time. I know alot of those are legacy issues, but they definitely seem to stand out ALOT more this year.....

[slthree]

Re: NBA 2k18 Impressions Thread

I'm just speaking from a single player experience against the AI.

The clipping is horrendous(my biggest issue). The ball seems to go through your players whole body, but when you're on offense a pinky will knock the ball loose.

Rebounding is also cheap against the AI with the ball suctioning to their hands while my players have good position and in some cases are larger players.

Also the putbacks/tip ins are ridiculous for the ai. Regardless of traffic the shots go in.

Forget about tapping the steal button or jumping to block a shot at times. Instant foul call.

The AI is also free to dribble carelessly in the paint while you can't take a step without the ball getting knocked loose.

Loose balls also suction to the AI ridiculously.

While wide open shots do definitely miss for the AI, the frequency at which they go in for certain players are ridiculous.

Also the AI is rewarded with bad shots often from what I've seen.

Defense is dumb as rocks at times.

Missed layups for player controlled players is ridiculous while the AI is almost a guaranteed make regardless of traffic in a lot of situations.

I could go on, but it just seems like the game was tuned for H2H and not against the AI because they are hardly penalized for the BS they do, but you are constantly penalized.

I could see if I was losing games, but I've won 80% of the games I've played, they just aren't fun. It's like I'm playing Madden the way I have to go into replay mode to see WTF happened. I haven't been this disappointed in a 2k game in a long time. I know alot of those are legacy issues, but they definitely seem to stand out ALOT more this year.....

Agree with every word u said, except the winning part. In My Team, I have about a 3% win rate

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[K_rob11]

Re: NBA 2k18 Impressions Thread

I'm just speaking from a single player experience against the AI.



The clipping is horrendous(my biggest issue). The ball seems to go through your players whole body, but when you're on offense a pinky will knock the ball loose.



Rebounding is also cheap against the AI with the ball suctioning to their hands while my players have good position and in some cases are larger players.



Also the putbacks/tip ins are ridiculous for the ai. Regardless of traffic the shots go in.



Forget about tapping the steal button or jumping to block a shot at times. Instant foul call.



The AI is also free to dribble carelessly in the paint while you can't take a step without the ball getting knocked loose.



Loose balls also suction to the AI ridiculously.



While wide open shots do definitely miss for the AI, the frequency at which they go in for certain players are ridiculous.



Also the AI is rewarded with bad shots often from what I've seen.



Defense is dumb as rocks at times.



Missed layups for player controlled players is ridiculous while the AI is almost a guaranteed make regardless of traffic in a lot of situations.



I could go on, but it just seems like the game was tuned for H2H and not against the AI because they are hardly penalized for the BS they do, but you are constantly penalized.



I could see if I was losing games, but I've won 80% of the games I've played, they just aren't fun. It's like I'm playing Madden the way I have to go into replay mode to see WTF happened. I haven't been this disappointed in a 2k game in a long time. I know alot of those are legacy issues, but they definitely seem to stand out ALOT more this year.....

honeymoon period is over.

Ive never rage quit out of a NBA 2k game before, but my last few games Ive had to do this. Whats sad about this is that this is on pro and rookie levels.

There's always a point in the game where the AI controlled team goes on this phenomenal run, and regardless of defensive adjustments, line up changes etc. the run can not stop. what makes it so frustrating is that my AI controlled players on my team all of sudden does not know how to defend, rebound, etc. they are just leaving everyone open, no one is rotating etc. Ive checked the player assignments and Ive even set them to auto, as suggested on other threads. nothing happens.

They hit everything, I miss everything. end result is I lose every game by 20+ points.



This is offline gm/my league mode. am I doing something wrong. I dont mind losing games, but every game Im losing in the same manner and the same predictable way.

its frustrating, and does not feel organic



another problem is that alot of AI controlled teams dont seem to play half court offensive sets. ever game becomes run and gun, this is not fun.



Ive praised this game in previous posts, but I may have to dial this back some. unless, again, Im doing something wrong.

These two post sum up my exact experience and frustrations with 2K18 (minus the winning 80% of my games like Sage as I'm closer to tril's experience there on default all-star).
FWIW I'm strictly an offline myLeague/ myGM player.


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[The 24th Letter]

Re: NBA 2k18 Impressions Thread

Definitely one of the worst 2k's I've ever played.....

One of the few times we dont agree Sage, but great to see you back around these parts bro....hope you've been well...

[Davon_A_Brown]

NBA 2k18 Impressions Thread

I'm just speaking from a single player experience against the AI.



The clipping is horrendous(my biggest issue). The ball seems to go through your players whole body, but when you're on offense a pinky will knock the ball loose.



Rebounding is also cheap against the AI with the ball suctioning to their hands while my players have good position and in some cases are larger players.



Also the putbacks/tip ins are ridiculous for the ai. Regardless of traffic the shots go in.



Forget about tapping the steal button or jumping to block a shot at times. Instant foul call.



The AI is also free to dribble carelessly in the paint while you can't take a step without the ball getting knocked loose.



Loose balls also suction to the AI ridiculously.



While wide open shots do definitely miss for the AI, the frequency at which they go in for certain players are ridiculous.



Also the AI is rewarded with bad shots often from what I've seen.



Defense is dumb as rocks at times.



Missed layups for player controlled players is ridiculous while the AI is almost a guaranteed make regardless of traffic in a lot of situations.



I could go on, but it just seems like the game was tuned for H2H and not against the AI because they are hardly penalized for the BS they do, but you are constantly penalized.



I could see if I was losing games, but I've won 80% of the games I've played, they just aren't fun. It's like I'm playing Madden the way I have to go into replay mode to see WTF happened. I haven't been this disappointed in a 2k game in a long time. I know alot of those are legacy issues, but they definitely seem to stand out ALOT more this year.....

Wanna hear something crazy? I can't disagree with a single word, but this is still the best basketball game I've ever played. The good really outweighs the bad by a ton to me.

[CX1329]

Re: NBA 2k18 Impressions Thread

I'm about to give up on the game and wait until the patch drops, hopefully fixing some of the major issues. Playing 2K18 is just a gigantic exercise in frustration and I'm not really having fun, mostly for the reasons Sage and Trill stated. It is certainly possible to win and I am winning at a realistic rate (about .500 in my first year in MyLeague, playing as a mediocre expansion team) with a HOF slider set, so the difficulty is not the problem. The problem is that the game is just not fun to play. The outcome feels scripted every single time, whether I win or lose. As it stands, it's more of an interactive movie than it is a basketball video game, which sliders can only do so much to counter, seeing as they can't change the ridiculous, overdone momentum mechanics going on in the background.

The game is absolutely bipolar. I'm constantly trading runs with the CPU and my players are either shooting lights out or unable to hit the broad side of a barn. The same goes for the CPU, and whoever goes on a run last wins the game. If one team goes on a run, the other suddenly can't even make easy layups. Real NBA games do have an ebb and flow and streaks and slumps, but not to the extreme extent seen in 2K18. In this game, the User and the CPU take turns shooting over 60% in one quarter, then 30% in the next. Come on. Leads don't even mean anything in this game, because the mechanics make it so easy to come back from huge deficits. I am able to come back from being down by 15 or more much more frequently than I should be, because my players all channel their inner Jordan. Conversely, if I happen to open a lead that big, I just know I won't be able to hold it very long, because the CPU will invariably start knocking down back to back threes as I struggle to make easy shots or layups.

There is so much in this game that is leaps and bounds above 2K17 and I really want to be able to enjoy all of the great things 2K18 has to offer, such as the vastly improved player movement, but at the same time, I really don't feel like playing it anymore until all of the weird scripting tied to momentum is ironed out.

[nuttyrich]

Re: NBA 2k18 Impressions Thread

I'm about to give up on the game and wait until the patch drops, hopefully fixing some of the major issues. Playing 2K18 is just a gigantic exercise in frustration and I'm not really having fun, mostly for the reasons Sage and Trill stated. It is certainly possible to win and I am winning at a realistic rate (about .500 in my first year in MyLeague, playing as a mediocre expansion team) with a HOF slider set, so the difficulty is not the problem. The problem is that the game is just not fun to play. The outcome feels scripted every single time, whether I win or lose. As it stands, it's more of an interactive movie than it is a basketball video game, which sliders can only do so much to counter, seeing as they can't change the ridiculous, overdone momentum mechanics going on in the background.

The game is absolutely bipolar. I'm constantly trading runs with the CPU and my players are either shooting lights out or unable to hit the broad side of a barn. The same goes for the CPU, and whoever goes on a run last wins the game. If one team goes on a run, the other suddenly can't even make easy layups. Real NBA games do have an ebb and flow and streaks and slumps, but not to the extreme extent seen in 2K18. In this game, the User and the CPU take turns shooting over 60% in one quarter, then 30% in the next. Come on.

There is so much in this game that is leaps and bounds above 2K17 and I really want to be able to enjoy all of the great things 2K18 has to offer, such as the vastly improved player movement, but at the same time, I really don't feel like playing it anymore until all of the weird scripting tied to momentum is ironed out.

1100% agree..exactly how I feel..it's a game of runs..which some might say that's basketball but it's scripted..literally you literally switch runs,not even realistic...you literally just go cold..they get hot,and back and forth..had nothing to do it home with how you play.

You can back a guy down with a big man and execute a thing of beauty..then they go on a run and you have no choice but to TRY to match them.

When it gets to the 4 quarter...that's where it goes bonkers...every game I have played in my league the name the player of the game with about 4-5 minutes left in a 9 min quarter.

One time..a guy who had 3 rebounds at th half..and was injured..a d didn't come back..won PLAYER of the game.

Even if I'm winning or down by a few they announce the player of the game..no matter what.

Pure disgrace of what supposed to be a simulation more like a scriptualtion.

This is patch #4.. TIPOFF on Wednesday...can't see how they will make another one...also can't see how they haven't addressed any game play issues in 4 Patches.

The only broken other modes for other players..guess they're going for the trifecta screwing over every game mode.

I no one holding 2k accountable??...We need to bombard them..so this goes public..they cannot get away with him highway robbery.

Ronnie 2k and all the other people shilling the game...all have disappeared where are these amazing YouTubers now?



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[rolrech]

Re: NBA 2k18 Impressions Thread

I agree with SageInfinite, tril, CX1329 and nuttyrich.

The last two patches killed the game for me. The sad thing is: Before patch 1.03 I had a really good time. Now the game is just stupid. Defense and Halfcourt game are imo both dead. I restarted my Magic MyGm and won the first three games on default Allstar, but all three games were a mess and no fun at all. After a 149-145 victory (no overtime!) against the Cavs I reached a point where I don't want to play for a couple of days.

[Swish_41]

Re: NBA 2k18 Impressions Thread

I won't even post all my impressions here as the devs don't care either... Im a 2k vet and to me this game is big trash. Its not fun but frustrating!

[rolrech]

Re: NBA 2k18 Impressions Thread

I won't even post all my impressions here as the devs don't care either... Im a 2k vet and to me this game is big trash. Its not fun but frustrating!

To be fair, I still think this game is better than 2K15 and 2K17 playing against the AI.

[jfsolo]

Re: NBA 2k18 Impressions Thread

Wanna hear something crazy? I can't disagree with a single word, but this is still the best basketball game I've ever played. The good really outweighs the bad by a ton to me.

Paradoxically, I agree with both you and with Sage, but for me the frustration now has started to outweigh the fun. The CPU not having to play by the same parameters that I do, unless I adjust every one of their sliders(some of them aren't really effective) really saps my desire to play.

The crazy thing is that I think that they can actually tune the game to play in a balanced state and still be challenging, but they instead rely on giving the CPU these inherent advantages.

[WTF]

Re: NBA 2k18 Impressions Thread

Definitely one of the worst 2k's I've ever played.....

I'm just speaking from a single player experience against the AI.

The clipping is horrendous(my biggest issue). The ball seems to go through your players whole body, but when you're on offense a pinky will knock the ball loose.

Rebounding is also cheap against the AI with the ball suctioning to their hands while my players have good position and in some cases are larger players.

Also the putbacks/tip ins are ridiculous for the ai. Regardless of traffic the shots go in.

Forget about tapping the steal button or jumping to block a shot at times. Instant foul call.

The AI is also free to dribble carelessly in the paint while you can't take a step without the ball getting knocked loose.

Loose balls also suction to the AI ridiculously.

While wide open shots do definitely miss for the AI, the frequency at which they go in for certain players are ridiculous.

Also the AI is rewarded with bad shots often from what I've seen.

Defense is dumb as rocks at times.

Missed layups for player controlled players is ridiculous while the AI is almost a guaranteed make regardless of traffic in a lot of situations.

I could go on, but it just seems like the game was tuned for H2H and not against the AI because they are hardly penalized for the BS they do, but you are constantly penalized.

I could see if I was losing games, but I've won 80% of the games I've played, they just aren't fun. It's like I'm playing Madden the way I have to go into replay mode to see WTF happened. I haven't been this disappointed in a 2k game in a long time. I know alot of those are legacy issues, but they definitely seem to stand out ALOT more this year.....

I agree with this sentiment. It's the ever apparent legacy issues that I don't know if they can fix at this point, without a full on restart, which for them, would be ridiculous due to their sales on the current games. I don't know, I'm starting to think maybe I'm just outgrowing games, which I never thought I'd do.

Then, I'll have a relatively cheese free game, and I remember why I enjoy it so much. But those experiences are becoming few and far between. Especially in modes like MyLeague. The games that apparently "mean" something, feel terribly scripted and cheesy to the point that it makes me wonder why I'm wasting my time.

There are a few games though, that feel like the game doesn't care, and the CPU seems to execute well, my player seem to have some resemblance of intelligence, and the game plays well, win or lose.

[ehh]

Re: NBA 2k18 Impressions Thread

Rebounding is also cheap against the AI with the ball suctioning to their hands while my players have good position and in some cases are larger players.

I rage-quit on Friday because Tyler Ulis snatched an offensive board in traffic over Porzingis and Hernangomez AND went right back up in traffic and laid it in. Meanwhile, Hernangomez is shooting 39% from the floor in my MyLeague because no big man can make a shot if a defender is anywhere near them.