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  • Da_Czar
    NBA 2K Gameplay Producer, Offensive AI System - SIM NATION
    • Jul 2002
    • 5408

    #76
    Re: AI Defense Sometimes Getting Lost On Help Defense For No Reason

    Originally posted by whatitisinsports
    This is one huge reason I am constantly frustrated with this game and call it the worst 2k ever (it looks great tho), it's like how does anyone not see it?? And because every game mode has cpu, it's constantly present.

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    This could be be a possible bug, in that it may be happening in cases where it shouldn't. It's being evaluated.
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    • 335TDC
      Rookie
      • Aug 2016
      • 352

      #77
      Re: AI Defense Sometimes Getting Lost On Help Defense For No Reason

      Originally posted by Da_Czar
      This could be be a possible bug, in that it may be happening in cases where it shouldn't. It's being evaluated.


      I love this game, but man, what crap.

      Your teammates' D is way too tied to ratings, meaning that even common sense spacing and decision making don't happen unless a guy meets some attribute threshold.

      Still the most broken thing in the game is transition D, though. So, Czar, can someone over there "evaluate" why the first man back STILL runs under the basket and stays there with no worries about transition 3's? I get cheesed for 3-5 3's a game from this.


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      • xCoachDx
        MVP
        • Aug 2015
        • 1295

        #78
        Re: AI Defense Sometimes Getting Lost On Help Defense For No Reason

        Originally posted by 335TDC
        I love this game, but man, what crap.

        Your teammates' D is way too tied to ratings, meaning that even common sense spacing and decision making don't happen unless a guy meets some attribute threshold.

        Still the most broken thing in the game is transition D, though. So, Czar, can someone over there "evaluate" why the first man back STILL runs under the basket and stays there with no worries about transition 3's? I get cheesed for 3-5 3's a game from this.


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        Clarify a bit on what you are talking about, because the first guy back should almost always protect the rim first on a 2v1 or 3v2 break. Are you talking about fast breaks? Or just generally in transition after made baskets?

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        • jeebs9
          Fear is the Unknown
          • Oct 2008
          • 47562

          #79
          Re: AI defense is broken.. again..

          I just want to add to the list...

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          • Goffs
            New Ork Giants
            • Feb 2003
            • 12278

            #80
            Re: AI Defense Sometimes Getting Lost On Help Defense For No Reason

            I thought they patched it....

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            • Thetruth9012
              MVP
              • Oct 2013
              • 1287

              #81
              Re: AI Defense Sometimes Getting Lost On Help Defense For No Reason

              Originally posted by Goffs
              I thought they patched it....

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              I dont think they can on this generation....
              2k18 fixes

              Bigs can cover to much ground on defense(they are too fast)

              Late contest on laups matter too much.

              Random blocks doing pumpfakes.

              Leaning shots for guys who have catch and shoot badge should be removed.

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              • fileman3
                Rookie
                • Jul 2008
                • 239

                #82
                Re: AI Defense Sometimes Getting Lost On Help Defense For No Reason

                Im seeing this too, My guys are MOVING AWAY from good shooters leaving them wide open I had 70 pts with JJ reddikk,,,,,,this needs to be fixed ASAP!

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                • SonicMage
                  NBA Ratings Wizard
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 3544

                  #83
                  Re: AI Defense Sometimes Getting Lost On Help Defense For No Reason

                  Originally posted by Chmielu9123
                  I dont think they can on this generation....
                  They did patch it.

                  From the patch notes: "Fixed issues where defenders were set to GAP, ignoring user and ACE settings."

                  I tested it myself last night and the issue I was seeing before with defenders leaving shooters in the corner to go run into the paint is now gone.
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